Tend to agree with this view, too many titles leads to entitlement, which is the sort of thing that has plagued Man U since Fergie left. It's clear that City need a period of renewal, with pivotal players like Silva and De Bruyne starting to wane, and that's perhaps why Guardiola has decided to do at least one more season.
Fair play to Pep for signing for another two seasons, as you say with top players on the wane and Begeirstein leaving, I’d thought he’d go too. But obviously he’s up for the challenge of a bit of a rebuild.
8 point lead before Christmas or at Christmas? Even recent PL history shows that leading by 8 at Christmas is no guarantee of the title, and both Arsenal and Man Utd have dealt with much bigger deficits before.
It was said on match of the day. Every team with an 8 point lead after the crimbo period/start of the new year have won the title:
ManU 93-94
ManU 00-01
Chelsea 05-06
City 17-18
Liverpool 19-20
It was said on match of the day. Every team with an 8 point lead after the crimbo period/start of the new year have won the title:
Except Newcastle....
Except Newcastle….
gosh yes. Letter to Points of View coming up.
Every team with an 8 point lead after the crimbo period/start of the new year have won the title:
Oh ISWYM, exactly an 8 point lead...and only over second place. 20/21 City were eight points back at Christmas, but they were also in eighth place, so don't qualify for this stat.
Tbf that one has a special resonance for me. Around 30 years ago I got a Saturday job selling programs at the ground. My first match was against Birmingham city. The bloke who ran the operation handed me a float, a bag of programs, and sent me, an 8 stone twiglet, off to the away entrance with the words “Scum of the earth, Blues fans”. I was promptly swarmed around by Blues fans who stole all my change. I didn’t make much money that day and have not had the highest opinion of City ever since!
If it's any consolation, there's a lot of Blues fans I'm not mad keen on.... Fair play to you for the win last Saturday, I wasn't expecting that. 🙂
Well for the first time in a long I am not looking forward to a top of the table clash - genuinely think we could be on the wrong end of a thrashing at the when we play Liverpool - the capitulation last night was almost ManUtdesque...
I think you’ll find that, awful though we are, the benchmark for capitulations is still Spurs. We don’t yet have our own adjective 😀
It should be a belter of a game this weekend though. Having said that, as everyone is expecting a goalfest, it’ll no doubt end up as a cagey nil nil
Comical defending from Man City last night. Was Ederson on his way to the dressing room for the 3rd?? He had defenders coming in to cover him!
Will be interesting to see how many plastic fans we shed during this ‘blip’.
Apparently there were loads of empty seats last night?
Grealish is a £100 million ‘squad’ player?
Thats Man City! Mental money for a pretty average player...
I was flicking between games last night, I watched Citeh until the penalty and thought that was that.
Put it back on and they were 3-0 up, so just put some music on.
Wish I had stayed, would of loved to see the meltdown.
I watched the Arsenal game as there's no way that City would be as bad as they have been. Looks like i did not get that right.
Now we can see how good Pep really is and if he can manage such a crisis.
As soon as City conceded a goal last night, the body language of almost every player changed completely. Then after the second, it looked inevitable that Feyenoord would score again, and I was surprised they didn't go on to win it. Total capitulation from City. Did anyone else notice Pep had made himself bleed by scratching his face!?
Absolutely spot on!
He's not in a good place.
Plenty of memes going about of him morphing into Ten Hag ?
Felt for Villa last night, how was that not a goal?
This Arsenal game is absolutely bonkers! A game of two halves and that was just the first half.
Can we take a moment to appreciate little old Sheffield United?
Unbeaten at home all season and won the last 8 at home without conceding one single goal, that includes Michael Cooper saving a pen last night.
Started the season on -2 and two points clear.
I'm sure we'll cock it up at some point though, we aren't always playing that well, but grinding out results.
Can always look forward to getting thrashed every week next season again if we do go up!
There's a good chance Ben Brereton-Diaz will still have his record Prem Games Without A Win streak going if you want him back from us. Just for shits and giggles..
City might get seriously tonked here.
I can’t believe they’re only one down though, so you never know. They look really wobbly when they’re trying to play it out from the back. It’s very un-City-like and seems to be just asking for trouble
Pep's last season? This might be his last game...
Before the game I was hoping for the best but fearing the worst, really it was the expected result.
Liverpool totally outplayed us in the first half, but there were some green shoots of recovery in the second half, especially Doku's contribution. With more players coming back, hopefully a more consistent defensive line up I think we will soon have our rhythm back, probably too late for the PL, but hopefully still a cup or two, just need to make sure we don't have to have extra play off matches for the next round of the CL.
City can't wait for the charges to be dropped/fines so they can start doping again.
Looks like I'll be able to watch - after a fashion - the Ipswich v Palace game tonight on Prime.
Bit early in the season for a crunch game but will be a big boost for the team that wins in the scrap at the bottom. I'm feeling binners-like levels of doom, if I'm honest.
(Can you be "binnersy" in the same way as being Spursy?)
I think it’s a fair cop. This is what they’ve reduced me to. I’ve become an adjective
To be fair to me, I think it’s a trigger of PTSD from growing up in the 80’s when we were shite and Liverpool won everything. I’d literally endure anything other than the scousers being 9 points clear of everyone. I can’t cope with it
We actually looked good on Sunday, but then I remembered it was Everton and we’ve got Arsenal tomorrow at their place
My feeling of impending doom/relegation proved accurate anyway
How long does the West Ham guy have? That Newcastle win bought him a bit of time but getting smashed vs Arsenal and then having 30 shots and only scoring 1 vs Leicester surely means his time is done?
My feeling of impending doom/relegation proved accurate anyway
I've my usual feeling of doom, especially now that Ødegaard is back
How long does the West Ham guy have?
I doubt he'll still be there at the weekend. Cue all the Hammers fans saying they need a manager that plays the 'West Ham Way', whatever that is, and linking the club with Carlo Ancelotti
Football on Amazon - 3 words that should never be spoken. Tried to the Sky app and the app on my TV and both sound like they're underwater.
Even more vacant seats than ever at the Emptyhad
We just need to work out what name he’s posting under.
Having watched the first half of the Liverpool game I’ve just had a punt on them getting someone sent off. It’s been a shirt-pulling, tactical-fouling extravaganza. Odds were only 4/1
In other news, I’d forgotten (or mentally blanked it out) that Harry Maguire still played for us
Thought Harry Maguire was Fred the Red.
Can see Arsenal catching Liverpool - Konate is a big miss, and I think Robertson is a bit off it now. Arsenal have a decent looking run coming up and have played five of last seasons top six away already, barring Liverpool - it might come down to that game.
I doubt he’ll still be there at the weekend. Cue all the Hammers fans saying they need a manager that plays the ‘West Ham Way’,
Not really. We'd settle for competence, which hasn't been seen under Lopetegui or the back end of Moyes' last season.
I thought Craig Dawson had done alright last night, but then I saw his 2 goals were for the opposition.
When Everton tonk you 4-0 I think your time as a manager is up.
Would argue Moyes gave you more than competence but was undermined by the fans and the board last season. It was no surprise the season tailed off as it did.
Can see Arsenal catching Liverpool
I don't think we will. I just don't think we have that cutting edge. Last seen in 03/04. Interesting to see how Chelsea do over the festive period. I think it's going to be very close for 2nd/3rd/4th.
Would argue Moyes gave you more than competence but was undermined by the fans and the board last season. It was no surprise the season tailed off as it did.
His results fell off a cliff after last Christmas and the defence was a shambles. I think most people who follow the club closely were of the view that it was time to thank him for his achievements and make a fresh start. Not many were asking for Lopetegui though!
