Gordon coming on with a couple of minutes left. If I were him I’d tell him to do one.
These Balkan sides are pretty good anyway.
Why is Leandro Trossard reffing this game?
FFS! What is the point of bringing TAA and Gordon on for 2 minutes?! Isn’t it Slovenia that are meant to be running the clock down with pointless substitutions?
😴🥱
I knew that his choice of fitted summer knitwear was a mistake
That was absolutely dire! Again!
At least they’re safe to bet on. My 0-0 came in but it was only 3/1, which tells you what the bookies think of Engerland
That was dull. 4 out of 10, should do better.
Real headscatcher that. 2 minutes.
And funnily enough Gordon did more in two mins than Bellingham did in 90. Southgate can do one.
I suspect this thread will be full of doom and gloom but topped the group, undefeated, better half of the draw. I'll take that at this stage.
Lot more lively than the Denmark match without much extra to show for it. Subs done good.
On we go... 🙂
1-0, 1-1, 0-0
Through as group winners. Jaysus lads. 😂
Jaysus lads.
Hopefully Ireland can do better. We'll cheer them on, when are they playing? 😉
Had to check whether Kane was still on at the end.
England qualify as worst group winners. Just like every other tournament they’ve played in under Southgate I find myself wanting them not to progress because they simply don’t deserve it.
Shocking performance - Palmer and Marino only redeeming performances. Southgate will spend the next few days providing excuses for his team selection and tactics (although I'm not sure there were any). I always wonder why I put myself through watching England - been doing it for 50 years and can can count on one hand the number of games which have been really exciting with great skills and a decent result.
From Twitter..
Jude Bellingham for England vs. Slovenia:
▫️ 0 shots
▫️ 0 chances created
▫️ 0 successful tackles
▫️ 0 passes completed into attacking third
▫️ 12% of his passes went forward
▫️ 22% duels won (worst on team)
▫️ 16 times possession lost (most on team)
And yet we all know he will play every minute of this tournament. Drop him for Foden, put Gordon on the left. So obvious it’ll never happen.
Is that the lowest scoring group?
At least they’re safe to bet on. My 0-0 came in but it was only 3/1, which tells you what the bookies think of Engerland
@binners you need to change your bookies then! I got 17/4 on a draw, didn't even need to pick the score!
The usual bare minimum to squeak thru then gracefully duck out without getting pilloried, to enjoy the maximum summer holls, before reporting back for pre-season training.
Re the set pieces. I blame Southgate on this but every corner and free kick in the vicinity of a corner was an out-swinger. The stats guys will point to the fact that in-swingers have a much higher success rate. Case in point is that Arsenal the PL's pre-eminent exponents of corners last season used out swingers about two or three times out of a total of over 200 corners.
It's coming home though right?
Sure is!
Drop him for Foden
ehhh? They were both playing at the same time. Unless you mean playing Foden more centrally?
Bellingham has been utterly underwhelming in the last two games.
Unless you mean playing Foden more centrally?
Yes that’s exactly what I mean. On that performance Bellingham doesn’t deserve a place in the team, especially when we have a world class replacement in the form of Foden. Drop Bellingham, shift Foden into the no 10 position with Gordon and Palmer on the flanks, Mainoo and Rice behind them. They’ll win with that team. I’d also replace Kane with Watkins but I can see that’s way too radical for most people let alone Southgate.
I have a sneaky feeling that dropping Bellingham would be a shade too radical for Gareth.
Bellingham already has the look of an overblown prima donna. At least Beckham and others earned their positions, all Bellingham has done is get a very expensive move to Real Madrid.
There's plenty of candidates, but agreed, Bellingham has been England's biggest under-achiever.
where he has been completely forgettable
Looks to me like he thinks he’s better than his England team mates and doesn’t have to try as hard (same goes for Kane). He may well be one of the best in the world but if he doesn’t perform and doesn’t fit in the team he shouldn’t be playing. This is the problem with Southgate, too many players get in the team by default.
Win or lose, Southgate is on his way out. Pending further results, I'd like to say to say thanks to Gareth for some fantastic (and disappointing) results. But until then, football's coming home 😀 ⚽🏆
It was another dismal display. It's abit like watching Arsenal play from a few years back.
Keep the ball, pass it around and if anyone gets close to the kick it back to the keeper.
There seems to me to be a problem with moving off the ball into space, and being able to kick a ball at , or a few meters in front of , a team mate.
Plus England seem to have huddles of players out wide and no one in the middle so when a ball is belted into the penalty area the forwards are miles apart and outnumbered and man marked.
As for doing multiple substitution in the last few minutes, utterly pointless. Like playing for a draw and crossing your fingers other results go your way . Making progress more likely.
I do wonder if the players want to lose just to be able to get a few weeks off, go rent a super yacht in the Bahamas and take a break from the relentless cycle of training, diving and rolling around on the floor as if someone has taken a baseball bat to their knees
Well the draw gods are certainly giving the Engerlanders a very favorable route. Maybe Southgate has some fiendish plan or knowledge of witchcraft that we're not aware off.
Not sure how Bellingham is getting it tight, i watched last nights game and the big things you notice is Kane still trying to be a false 9, running back and then passing to Foden, it's bad enough having two 10s on the pitch with Bellingham and Foden, but to then have your 9 behind you with the ball is a bit weird 🤣
It reminds me of some past teams who try and buy up big stars to play together, but the reality is, you've got 4 attackers who all want the ball and want to get in the box, and there's only one ball, Foden and Saka aren't wingers who hit the byline, Kane will always hunt the ball, Bellingham just doesn't look like he knows what he's meant to do in this formation, same with Rice.
It was another dismal display. It’s abit like watching Arsenal play from a few years back.
Thing about England is they play poorly but qualify anyway. And their fans boo them as they progress serenely to the latter stages.
They are like the Anti-Scotland
