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[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8112980.stm ]Why can't they name the ****er?! What human f***ing rights? Release his details and put a bounty on his head! ****! [/url]
Because of the society nowadays that protects the criminals rather than the victims.
I say bring back culling ... I mean brazen bull ... I mean just bring back hanging.
Why don't they name him - to protect him from vigilantes. He is a child in the eyes of the law
Chewkw - stop spouting hateful daily mail propaganda. That is simply untrue
Bring back hanging? How exactly will that help? 🙄
Well said TJ, you beat me to it!
Don't worry, he's clearly a poor misguided youth. Murdering children is ok, you can just talk to him and he will stop.
Because he hasn't been convicted of a crime and seemingly people like you would go and lynch him?
Innocent until proven guilty is a fairly important concept.
well you could try reading beyond the headline.
The boy, who cannot be named because of his age,...
Don't worry, he's clearly a poor misguided youth. Murdering children is ok, you can just talk to him and he will stop.
You should see if you can get a column in the Daily Mail with the way you can so spectacularly miss the point and twist people's words.
put a bounty on his head!
He's already in custody.
He hasn't been found guilty yet.
It's a bugger all this 'legal stuff' innit ?
Gawd I get so sick of you right wing fantasists on here. What earthly good does killing another child do?
We imprison more of our children than any comparable country, we criminalise them from an early age.
Don't worry, he's clearly a poor misguided youth. Murdering children is ok, you can just talk to him and he will stop.
Sounds more like he's seriously mentally disturbed.
ok the kid is a murderer.
but WTF is a mother doing leaving her child with someone like this.
who in their right mind would let any tom dick or harry look after theif child...
Innocent until proven guilty is a fairly important concept.
Unless children are involved, then people lose all logic or reason and demands someone, anyone; JUST ANYONE be killed for the offence.
Lets not let that little thing called "a trial" get in the way of things. 😐
but WTF is a mother doing leaving her child with someone like this.
She probably missed the label attached to his neck which said, "I am a murderer"
You will probably get your way. I bet he is both educationally subnormal - ie totally thick and emotionally retarded if not mentally ill.
However to satisfy the blood lust of scum like you will be tried in an adult court and sentenced as an adult.
And it is nothing to do with the human rights act - not naming children predates that act by far.
TJ: "Chewkw - stop spouting hateful daily mail propaganda. That is simply untrue."
I do not read newspapers except BBC "new media" ahemm ... Left or right I do not care as they are all evil.
Really just go medieval, as our American cousin would say, on them. Cull a few of the criminals to free up some space like they cull some of the animals at will.
Of course innocent until proven guilty then if found guilty hang them.
too many times things like this happen
i left my child with a friend/friends son/daughter/someone i met in the pub/ local uncle/paedo ect ect ect
get some ****ing responsibility in your lives.....
Wonder if it's the same people who were fantasizing about abusing kids in Hairychested's other thread that are expressing outrage about this?
chewk - but you are infected by their poison that has poisoned ourt society.
Innocent until proven guilty.
chewkw - Member
TJ: "Chewkw - stop spouting hateful daily mail propaganda. That is simply untrue."I do not read newspapers except BBC "new media" ahemm ... Left or right I do not care as they are all evil.
Really just go medieval, as our American cousin would say, on them. Cull a few of the criminals to free up some space like they cull some of the animals at will.
Of course innocent until proven guilty then if found guilty hang them.
I really hope you read this again in the morning when your sober, as you are coming across as an idiot. 🙄
The defence will say he suffered an abnormality of mind which impaired his responsibility.
The toddler's mother, Ann Marie McDonald, told the jury she popped out to pick up her child benefit
So the boys maybe got some kind of mental problems and mummy left her precious little kid alone with him? Obviously not her fault then.
Why bother with trial by jury or innocent till proven guilty when all we really need are half a dozen paragraphs on the BBC new and a couple of knuckledraggers on a mountain bike website.
Well said that man.
I do not read newspapers .................. they are all evil.
Desperately tragic as this story is, these sort of threads do make me smile.
"[i]as our American cousin would say[/i]"
Yeah, cause of course the United States is crime free.
Yeah it's the namby pamby political correctness gone mad culture we have in this country now that means we can't go on a vigilante mission to abuse a mentally impaired child.
Violence breeds violence.
BigButSlimmerBloke
i meant that mate.....well put.
It's all part of the same problem, people deal with this sort of thing by lashing out, instead of behaving rationally and dispassionately.
Do you think people are born evil?
It's society's failings that lead to this kind of tragedy.
The teenager's clearly mentally/emotionally damaged and the mother showed very poor parental judgement - why not take your little girl with you to the post office or wherever.
How does hanging him help exactly?
How does hanging him help exactly?
It helps those who are unable to deal with the horror that a 15 year old could do such a thing, it's simple, like them.
[url= http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6555741.ece ]here[/url] is a better report
she had know him for four years and he had baby sat before.
TandemJeremy:"chewk - but you are infected by their poison that has poisoned ourt society."
Whose poison? I make up my own mind.
So if hanging is not an option then at least jail them criminals / muderers for at least 3/4 to life... and FFS! Do not give them the luxury in jail like watching TV, pool etc. Cramp 10 to a cell and let them go dog eat dog. FFS! Tax payers money is not here to reward criminals. But them to hard labour as well in chain gang.
Innocent until proven guilty but if found guilty the criminal should go into a shock when hearing the sentence. Obviously, they have the right to appeal etc ... blah blah blah!
A teenage boy beat to death a two- year-old girl while her mother went shopping for a card to mark his 15th birthday.When her mother, Sindy McDonald, returned she pulled back the quilt to find her daughter’s face swollen with bruises.
The way they report these things doesn't help stupid people not to jump to conclusions - if you just read the first two paragraphs you wouldn't notice it says:
Demi Leigh Mahon received such extensive injuries that a pathologist identified 68 separate punches, kicks or bite marks, [b]Manchester Crown Court heard.[/b]
Violence is never the long term answer.
When will people realise?
sofatester: "I really hope you read this again in the morning when your sober, as you are coming across as an idiot."
So are you saying those countries that impose death penalty are idiots too?
Or do you not like our American cousin?
Yup - countries that impose the death penalties are idiots.
It is no coincidence that countries with punitive judicial systems such as ours and the USA have higher crime rates.
What do you want - vengeance? Or reduction in crime. You cannot have both ( to oversimplify a very complex situation)
ernie_lynch: "Yeah, cause of course the United States is crime free."
No, but at least they cull a few with 200 million plus population.
he is a child FFS and probbaly a sick one atthat from a deprived background.
I am not really sure how hatred/hanging /lynching like Chewkw will make this scenario better or prevent another in the future.
Are you claiming that those countries WITH the death penalty have lower crime rates or murders ?
Really just go medieval, as our American cousin would say, on them. Cull a few of the criminals to free up some space like they cull some of the animals at will.
It may also have been your comparing them to animals that they objected to and questioned ....not exactly the best put case for the death penalty now is it?
TJ: "What do you want - vengeance? Or reduction in crime. You cannot have both ( to oversimplify a very complex situation)"
Reduction in head count of criminals.
Well is crime in the increase or decrease in general?
If in the increase the present system is not working so what is the next way? Let it be?
So are you saying those countries that impose death penalty are idiots too?
LOL ! Sorry to laugh on this thread but chewkw gets funnier with every post.
Yeah right, China and Iran are great role models for justice.
Why did I read this thread?
Junkyard: "I am not really sure how hatred/hanging /lynching like Chewkw will make this scenario better or prevent another in the future."
Innocent until proven guilty do you get it? But if proven guilty then the punishment must be severe ... very severe in the case of murder.
ernie_lynch: "LOL ! Sorry to laugh on this thread but chewkw gets funnier with every post.Yeah right, China and Iran are great role models for justice."
WTF! Are you laughing at me? 😆
Check this ... When China or Iran execute their human stock the West go ape shite about human rights etc ... but yet when those people escape to claim asylum in the West none would offer them a hand. FFS! They are human after all and where is the compassion from the West?
I mean if all the Iranians and Chinese that fear prosecution or are in the process of being prosecuted go to the West to seek asylum would the West lend a hand to let them in?
I bet the West must be thinking "Insane in the main brain" to take all of them in but yet West want to preach their ways to others ... WTF! Please open the door to those that want to settle in the West and I bet China would willingly comply by giving them to the west.
yes and your explanation is what exactly?
you have just explained your position again and again and again
any chance you can explain how this will make things better or prevent another case that is what my question is
Junkyard: "I am not really sure how hatred/hanging /lynching like Chewkw [b]will make this scenario better or prevent another in the future.[/b]"I assume |(you seem wise ) that you realise that the worst murderers in the UK of children was commited when the death penalty was still applicable. If it did not prevent/stop people /monster like brady and hyndley how will it prevent others?
Perhaps you are saying that if we had killed them that no child would have been harmed since?
perhaps you are just full of vengenge and just want revenge even though no real good will come of it
Any chance of a further explanation of WHY YOU THINK THIS WILL ACHEIVE ANYTHING POSITIVE rather than just a repeat of your position?ps your post above barely makes sense I hope you are drunk I really do.
ernie_lynch: "LOL ! Sorry to laugh on this thread but chewkw gets funnier with every post.
LOL - Mr Pot, meet Mr Kettle and do feel free to comment on the darkness of his colouration