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+1 for Ton. tj try a moustache 😯

i'd agree with Ton if I was hard as nails and the other dad was like too many people I've encountered.

Like the last series of Lost and its two time lines, I can see this thread merging with the 'Talkemeda Blocked' thread. 😆

Well you want a social worker to pop round to the childs house and have a talk with this thug,promise them a trip to alton towers, get the social worker to tick lots of boxes on a pre printed sheet, then to toddle off back to their lovely middle class estate,happily thinking theyve done their job,and earned their inflated wage.

While your daughter still gets threatened etc,but never mind all the paper work is ok,and if anything serious happens it will suddenly disapear in the office shredder.

Best not to use physical violence,though.

Toys - no its not immediate danger - the incident is past and ton suggests going round to the other childs house and threatening the parents.

Ton - I do understand - you are an unpleasant thug who has no place in a civilised society.

When i had a run in with a few local chavs i went out and bought a little digital recorder (about £40) so that the next time they came back i could record the encounter and either play it to their parents or the police.

They never came back fortunately but at least it'll give the police first hand evidence of the exact abuse your daughter receives?

I also have a family from hell that the local council decided to move into the house across the road and they seem like the people you are dealing with. Unfortunately, much as i despise them and find their behaviour unacceptable i have learnt that there is simply nothing i can do. I have everything to lose and they have nothing - a trip to prison won't change their lives at all - it'll devastate yours....

Just like to ask what happens when the OP turns up at the house and has a quiet word with the other parent? Do you think

a) He has a quiet word and it all goes away 🙂
b) He has a quiet word and the other parent laughs in his face. Bullying gets worse
c) He has a quiet word and it escalates into a punch up. OP gets lifted for assault. Bullying gets worse
d) He has a quiet word and beats the crap out of the other parent. OP gets done for GBH and bullying gets worse
e) He has a quiet word and OP gets the crap beaten out of him. Bullying gets worse

Its a long time since you could safely go and have a quiet word with someone and not have consequences. I remember kids fathers turning up at my door due to us fighting. My dad would listen, get my side of the story, then depending on the circumstances mallet me. I have also seen my dad with guys held up by the throat for swearing in front of his kids (Helps being the spit of Jonny Wiesmuller). These days he would have a criminal record for that.

We are not gansters and we want whats best for our families. Antagonising ferrel families is not in your best interests

daughters BF is done plenty of MTFU'ing. he's mixed race, been spat at, abused and also assualted, he's been sound throughout.

as for the tj v's ton spat, i never found that having kids made me a thug, and i have never found the need to use violence, despite having been in many threatening situations. as i've said before, i'm too smart to beat someone up. i'll find better ways.

grass em up for benifit fraud?

I had a problem with thhe chav kids out the back to me, climbing over 12 foot wall to get ball (as well as what else they could see) general noise and disruption. Bollocked the kids when I caught them trying to climb over the wall "we're only getting the ball whats your problem?" and had a word with the parents-made the mistake of doing it while they're chav mates here there..no response just stupid grins and shrugs of shoulders.
Collared the dad by himself and told him again it had to stop, cos he had no back up or any one to impress he agreed and I've had no problems since, its even got to a "alright mate" greeting
Sometimes you need to take direct action. if the family concerned hate the police and have no respect for them or social services etc. they might just take notice of someone face upto them in there own way/language

Unfortunately chav scum like these feel they have little to lose whatever they do, hence their threshold for what they will do to manifest their twisted mindset is far beyond what a normal person would do. And the law in recent years has done little to prevent this. Not sure what I'd advice ... put it this way, even if you can handle yourself, if you go round there and sort the father out, he's likely to get some mates together and come looking for you ... and so it spirals. These people are scum and often their bullies, but they fear little in terms of retribution so will do what they want.

The only thing I would say is see if you can find this kind of topic on other forums and check out their advice ...

Whatever you do, I hope you get it sorted without any trouble.

idave, i too have never had reason to beat up another parent.
i have been to another kids house when my son was bullied.
the bullying stopped the same day. no violence occured.

just a quick heads up for all who think this is wrong.
these people love people like you, they prey on you, cos they know you will do nothing to stop them. they like to make your lifea misery, it makes them feel powerfull.
they will carry on doing what they do.....till you stop them........ 8)

Hmm has the incident passed?

serious threats have been issued since

Get off your high horse, in spite of your sad tale of childhood bullying, you really have no experience or knowledge of this.

Ton - you are so wrong - I kowtow to no one - especially thugs like you. However threatening violence as you advocate is always wrong - usually counterproductive and will end up with you in trouble.

Just because you do not understand civilized behaviour does not mean it is wrong to behave in a civilised manner.

so you continue with your culture of violence and continue to perpetuate that culture. Some of us have grown up beyond being cavemen.

Hypothetically speaking you could capture said scrote take to secluded spot, have hessian sack doused in petrol in boot of car, place said sack over scrote's head, calmly tell them this bollocks needs to stop if not they know what will happen. There are other torture techniques that work, so I believe but most require assistance. Good luck!

ton, i will stop it, i won't rest until i stop it, but i know all to well that a fight isn't going to do it. i can make every minute of their day miserable if i have to. without them knowing where its coming from. i'm hoping for some inspiration.

teej, like i said.....no kids...no idea........ 😆

and teej..............

never ever.......... 😆

There isn't enough intelligence to determine the best course of action. What level of voilence are we talking about, in all situations the responce must be relative to the threat.

That said, what fu king civilized society exactly do we live in? rape, murder, Pedophilia, voilent crime? the list is endless. Civilized is a word that people who can afford to segregate themselves with means use.

You want to take a log of the crimes or harrasment fair enough.

At the end of the day, the crime throughout our country is rising very quickly and sooner or later it will touch all of our lives.

Comes down to philosophy though doesn't it? most people now adays believe causing others distress is an accomplishment. All that varies is the degree and what is seen as acceptible.

Tandemjeremy you continually provoke people on this web site, you psychologically attack them, then go on about not being violent or using voilence?

What do you think would happen if you provoked them in the street and called them names? then went on about violence being wrong?

ton is partially right. If you daughter is attacked or threatened again you of course report this to the Police.

However you could always go round to have a polite word with her parents. TBH, the parents may be powerless themselves (as they are ****less).

However the parents may make a silly move and make a comment- thats where you give them stern advice and mention you'll be expecting them to sort their daughter out.

I don't see why not. If someone kicked a ball and broke a window on your house etc you'd be round to see the parents wouldnt you?

Or in nu-Labours Britain have the old fashion-ways become bereft with fear of another human?

I'm no big fella myself but I wouldnt let anyone in my family be bullied without me intervening and speaking to the parents.

Ton - no matter how often you repeat yourself it remains clear that you are a thug and a bully.

all the ego stroking you have to have and all the attempts to prove yourself better than me - the sign of an nasty little insecure man. You are beneath contempt.

Ton - I didn't realise you were a evil violent thug. Did that make me safer or more vulnerable on those night rides though Middleton?

(I may not be taking this as seriously as I obviously should)

TandemJeremy

say it to ton's face

You go on about non voilence and keep provoking people?

Not sure threatening scumbags father (if they have one) will work, had some problems on hour estate because we have a public footpath that cuts through our estate from another estate that has an element of chav scum who decided to target a number of us, one of my neighbours also was a police inspector & it all kicked off one evening and mr policeman got decked & scumbag got away with it, however I had an altercation with a couple of the and knocked one off his BMX by grabbing his handlebars, then gave him & his mate a slap, The Police inspectors wife saw this happen and called her husband so we pre-empted there response and called the police and went around to the chavs house with the cops and turned the tables, one of them got an asbo, the trouble has pretty well disappeared since then. Although I had to remind one of them last year as he is older and bigger and fancied his chances so dragged him down the footpath to give him the opportunity to have a go, he declined.

Sorry can't offer no legal solution other than keep harassing the police.

I think Ton and TandemJeremy should have their own sticky at the top of the forum.

igm - Member
Ton - I didn't realise you were a evil violent thug. Did that make me safer or more vulnerable on those night rides though Middleton?

neither did the hundred or so forum members i have ridden with over the years....... 😉

I'm lucky 'in a way'. I look more common than some of the chav's round here and drive a worse car 😆 ..errr

kaesae:
TandemJeremy

say it to ton's face

You go on about non voilence and keep provoking people?

Ton, TJ and now Kaesae?

**** me this is going to be epic!

TJ - Ton is right - you are wrong - end of! Anyone threatens my little girl and i would kill them, i am NOT big but get ****in mad!

ton

ignore I'm bitter and I call you names but we can't fight if we meet.

Ton and tandem jeremy should have a tongue sticky out compo with photo's

Ton -

Have you got convictions for violence? You claimed you had and had done time for it.

You have claimed to have threatened people and to have used violence to get your way.

You need to have your ego stroked all the time - classic sign of the immature inadequate bully.

You certainly act as a bully on here and you are too thick to have any understanding of why I react to you like this

Oh for crying out loud. Its the internet TJ, we all act differently online to real life.

To all the keyboard warriors advocating violence - would you have the balls to do it? Ton, I know the area you grew up in, and probably quite a few of the people you hung around with, so you dont need to answer. The bottom line is this, only idave knows the full details, and if he's against using violence, then I think we should respect him for that.

TandemJeremy

I thought you where doing it cos ton couldn't get his hands on your scrawny neck?

Quite right though, provoke the violent bully and call him all the names you can type out.

What kind of martial arts is it you do, that doesn't involve voilence?

kaesae - Member

TandemJeremy

say it to ton's face

You go on about non voilence and keep provoking people?

kasae +1

hora - Member

Oh for crying out loud. Its the internet TJ, we all act differently online to real life.

Hora +1

When my son was punched in the mouth at random (mistaken identity it seems) I took him to hospital and he had 11 stitches in his lips. Response police were in A&E on another matter and got involved with us. Subsequently someone came round to take photos of his face (after the stitches were removed and the swelling had subsided). They refused to take the photos I had taken in A&E.

The other lad had a lecture by the local sergeant as to how it was not ok to go round hitting people in the mouth.

When I spoke to the local station the copper said "Well he only had a fat lip"

"He had 11 stitches in his lips" I said.

"Oh, if we'd known that the outcome might have been different"

Yeah, let the authorities sort it out.

Speak softly and carry a big stick.

When my son was punched in the mouth at random (mistaken identity it seems) I took him to hospital and he had 11 stitches in his lips. Response police were in A&E on another matter and got involved with us. Subsequently someone came round to take photos of his face (after the stitches were removed and the swelling had subsided). They refused to take the photos I had taken in A&E.

The other lad had a lecture by the local sergeant as to how it was not ok to go round hitting people in the mouth.

When I spoke to the local station the copper said "Well he only had a fat lip"

"He had 11 stitches in his lips" I said.

"Oh, if we'd known that the outcome might have been different"

Yeah, let the authorities sort it out.

Speak softly and carry a big stick.

Sometimes you feel at your wits end when you are at the receiving end of abuse, vandalism and being provoked, its bad enough when it happens to you but if it happens to your children or loved ones, so I can seee why people snap and tackle things themselves, as I have, I did all the correct things leading up to this and after by keeping a diary and informing the community police etc etc.

Ton you must have a background or upbringing that leads you tackle things head on and its worked for you and understand where your coming from, TJ I hope you never have to tackle any issues like being bullied or targeted by scumbags or any of you family, it can change your behaviour.

Flipping heckler - I have been in that situation - me and my loved ones threatened and physically attacked. I had no need to resort to hitting anyone. I am better than that.

and how did you sort it jesus?

What do you mean by better than that, I am not saying violence resolves anything, in fact it can escalate matters, but if your picked on and bullied, sometimes people react on the spur of the moment, you obviously like to have the moral high ground as you like to pontificate, but I doubt your better than us.

TandemJeremy

If we take your argument to the extreme and ordered the police to be better than the criminals, what do you think would happen. As I said the circumstances determine the course of action!

Your blind adherence and vehemence that there is never a reason for violence to be necessary is simply delusional.

However since I'm a fair minded person. Tell us a bit more about you and your family being attacked and how you handled it.

This thread seems to becoming to be a stand off between Ton & TJ! People are calling Ton a thug, but where's the evidence that he's been the instigator? (I'm not siding with Ton, we've never met) At the same time, TJ probably knows, that I know, that violence is the final option, & it sometimes is the only option. I see it not every day in the prison service, but regularly. Sometimes the bully only knows one way.

I really don't recognise the Ton that TJ is abusing here and wish that TJ would wind his neck in. He's being extremely unpleasant.

I haven't read all the posts but TJ is coming across as nasty tonight

I haven't read everything here but I'll add some facts.

I have 3 kids and I really feel for you - it's a horrible thing for you all to go through.

Now, you need to be very careful here. You need to realise that these people don't give a monkeys about the police or the justice system. More than likely they will know how to play the system. You more than likely don't.

I have a friend who as part of his job spends a lot of time in court. There are people who don't give a crap about anyone but themselves. They look at a court visit as a slap on the wrist, couldn't care less and are back out on the street usually the same day. Cautions are nothing to them. They end up in and out of courts for the rest of their days and it's just normal to them.

You on the other hand (I'm assuming here) are a law abiding citizen, have a job, care and provide for your family etc.
If you decide to go in guns blazing and 'sort it out yourself' then these people will put all the blame on you, milk it for all its worth and you'll be the one standing in court.
Now, because you don't know the system and are not in the system the courts will come down on you like a ton of bricks - it's not a pleasant place to be - your life will be hell, emotionally you will be scared, nervous, worried etc. Who knows what the outcome would be but you can be sure if your employer gets a sniff of it they will not be happy. You could lose your job, gain a criminal record and your life has changed for ever...

I'm not sure of the best way to deal with it? But I'd start at pestering the police until you get a result you're happy with. If you keep complaining to them then they'll have to deal with it at some point.

As tempting as it may be to get a pick handle and 'get medevial on yo ass' don't. It's not worth it.

i will leave the people who have met and ridden with me to decide if i am a thug.
and there are many. 8)