Bump - there's a race this weekend 'ya all know!! 🙂
Or is everyone busy in other threads! 🤣🤣
Cost cap increased a tiny amount - not as much as they (Karen) wanted, so a few less canapes for the VIPs...
https://the-race.com/formula-1/f1-approves-proposal-to-increase-budget-cap-to-fight-inflation/
And stop bigging up Silverstone as an F1 race - I've spend many a boring, windy, cold, wet day at Silverstone - always hated that place, don't really know why I went! And even fell asleep in the Stowe grandstand during an F3000 race way back in the Alesi days!
I've always had it crossed of my list of F1 races I'd attend. 🙂
I might actually have to go one day.
I was there for this classic BTCC race though - stood at Luffield where the Cleland/Soper crash happened...
...and Murray we miss you!
Ferrari are looking quick
Ferrari are looking quick
...I'm sure the fine team back at Maranello are busy working out how they can shoot themselves in the foot again.
Just not right - Ferrari with a quick car and winning races! 🙂
Danny Ric out early again
Considering Lando missed most of FP1 with a burning back-side that really is poor. Aussie V8's are beckoning...
Yeah, I've always been a big Ricciardo fan (honestly, who could dislike the guy), but this year has been shocking. Indycar seems the obvious thing for next year.
Although Lando is only 15th! 🙂
Yeah, maybe McLaren should just switch to Indycar. They seem ok at it.
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Oof.
It was looking good too!
Oh dear Merc! That’s the other one in the barriers now. Was really hoping they’d be right at the pointy end for the sprint tomorrow. Busy/expensive evening in the garage for them.
Yep!
Pace looked good, setup issue or just fluke that it was both cars? Neither driver are particularly crash prone.
Ooooooooof.
So that's Hamilton stuck behind Alonso again 🙄
Pace looked good, setup issue or just fluke that it was both cars? Neither driver are particularly crash prone.
Yeah I'm gonna say unlucky, looked like a gust of wind both times
Danny Ric to Formula e I reckon. Its the diva coming back for the mercs
George - “Lewis has crashed”
Engineer - “Copy that”
George - ………
At least this qually is only for the toy race tomorrow so not all is lost.
Alonso's starting from the pit lane! That massively improves Hamiltons's chances
I think there’s a simple answer to this Leclerc - be faster!…
https://www.racefans.net/2022/07/09/leclerc-we-cant-afford-to-do-tomorrow-what-we-did-today/
…there’s something about Lecerc I just don’t take to. If you want top dog status, be top dog.
That was an underwhelming sprint. If they want excitement they should probably do them all at Silverstone 😀
Odd loss of the rear end on the Mercs in quali… didn’t hear mention of gusting wind on the commentary.
Was up early getting a road ride in, been working around the house and in the garden but now im settling down in the pub with a triple meat Sunday roast about to arrive, a cold Amstel in my hand and the F1 about to start...
Perfect!
Hmmm - lots of overtaking today, but somehow a bit zzzzzzz, 😴😴😀
Verstappen is so fast right now
How are Ferrari managing to be behind Verstappen even though they have a much faster car lol
Charles is a lucky boy!
That was another great race, kept me on the edge of my seat right to the end!
Some very ugly scenes at the grand prix this weekend
Sounds about right.
https://twitter.com/EngineMode11/status/1546235533403295745
Good, but not great race, though I enjoyed the midfield a lot. Haas are doing well.
I'm getting pretty frustrated with the penalties again this year. I hoped it would be better but it's not.
E.g. Perez/Rus on lap 1.
Perez turned in early/aggressively, then squeezed Russell on the exit, George can't just turn in more at that point. There were two car widths at least on Perez left through the corner.
It's similar to Verstappen/Hamilton last year at Copse.
Also Sainz got nothing for hoofing it while off the track to avoid losing a place to Russell
One other thing, check out the marshal around the 24 second mark who just drops the fire extinguisher and goes toddling off while the other poor guy tries to multitask putting a wedge under the wheel and fighting the fire on his own
For me the Perez/Russell incident was a racing incident, first lap driver's sorting themselves out, bound to happen.
Aye, totally agree on the Russell/Perez incident. Even if it was later in the race I would have put it down as a racing incident, never mind during lap 1 chaos! I think Perez has been right on the edge of the aggressiveness line (a very tricky balance) for some time but think he overstepped yesterday and ultimately paid the price. As has been said, there was plenty room outside of Russell and he can't just magically tighten his line mid-corner when already at the limit, if he applied more right hand lock he would've just drifted further out left as he understeered anyway!
I found it odd how easily Verstappen let Leclerc pass given how competitive RB were in the sprint on saturday. He has been surprisingly calm this year given his antics last season with Hamilton, when you look back at some of the 2021 moves he pulled, like running Hamilton clean off the race track (along with himself!) when trying to stay ahead.
I was a bit worried about Sainz when the camera feed watching him try to get out the car cut as he was struggling. Just as he went to jump out it started rolling back and he had to sit back down as the flames started to go round the cockpit! Not good. I would love to know exactly what failed as it looked like some fairly substantial bits of engine internals made a break for freedom through the engine covers.
Interesting enough race but I just get frustrated at how small the circuit is and the length of the straights. Awful to hear about the disgusting behaviour at the circuit, totally unacceptable for people to have to put up with abuse like that.
I found it odd how easily Verstappen let Leclerc pass given how competitive RB were in the sprint on saturday.
The RB was cooking its tyres, Leclerc noticed that in the sprint race, that's why he was confident about the main race. RB had to pit early, that gave Ferrari a big advantage because they could run longer and then attack later on fresher tyres after they'd pitted. I think everyone expected it to be a one stop race but the tyre degradation was much higher than expected so that worked out well for Ferrari and crippled the RB.
But your photos don’t actually show the point of contact in the Russell/Perez incident. The contact occurs several yards down the road when both cars are on the Left hand side of the track. After your final shots both cars move left and Russell drifts into Perez. That’s why he was penalised.
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Full MemberBut your photos don’t actually show the point of contact in the Russell/Perez incident. The contact occurs several yards down the road when both cars are on the Left hand side of the track. After your final shots both cars move left and Russell drifts into Perez. That’s why he was penalised.
This is the exact moment they touch:
See what I mean? They weren't on the left, there's still at least one cars width to the left side of perez, but they were drifting left. This is inevitable, as Russell's car physically cannot turn in tighter at this point.
The tight line Perez took which crosses Georges path, (much like Verstappen last year at Copse) basically made contact inevitable.
Maybe Red Bull will spend a media day filming Alex Albon going round the outside of a Merc at turn 4 to show… oh wait a minute.
Anyway, seemed like a racing incident to me. Perez surely can’t be daft enough not to have noticed how many people have tried that move and ended up in the gravel in recent years, so regardless of penalty it’s a pretty risky move on lap 1 when everyone’s still sussing out their own car under full fuel load, let alone everyone else’s. Russell seemed to hold the best line he could, never opened the steering. It seemed (at the time) like Perez had rather more space than Vettel was given by Gasly.
I thought much the same as noted above about Verstappen’s racing against Leclerc: he seemed strangely compliant. Maybe having the number 1 on the car has calmed him right down. Maybe something else.
His comments about the abusive fan behaviour seemed odd, though:
"And also don't forget, it's not an excuse, but of course, they watch the races and then they go back and party and have fun and drink alcohol. And sometimes when you drink alcohol, you can do stupid things. I don't say this as an excuse but also these things can be regulated."
I mean, I don’t know the fine details of the behaviour at hand, but I can safely say that whilst beer has been a catalyst in me behaving like a monumental dick on numerous occasions, I’ve never seen it turn a non-racist person racist.
Speaking after the race, Marko criticised Perez for attempting an overtake at Turn 4, saying he had been warned against such a move.
"We said before the start: do not go around the outside in that corner. That is not possible," Marko told Sky Sport Germany.
"This was just unnecessary. We've seen that before. It doesn't work. After that, the car was damaged and it made no sense to continue driving.
https://racingnews365.com/red-bull-critical-of-perezs-driving-we-told-him-not-to-do-that
Also:
Former Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone charged in UK with fraud by false representation, involving assets worth $477m (£400m)
https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/former-formula-one-supremo-ecclestone-charged-with-fraud-2022-07-11/
My surprise at Marko saying something circumspect and reasonable (albeit not about Golden Boy) is matched only by my total lack of surprise at Bernie behaving like a corrupt doglobber.
Former Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone charged in UK with fraud by false representation, involving assets worth $477m (£400m)
Wow. It's always the person you'd least suspect of fiddling their books.