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Oh just get a room, you two


 
Posted : 22/07/2021 4:28 pm
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If you get deemed 51% at fault, then the highest place you should be able to finish is no higher than the finishing position of the one that is less at fault (even after serving that penalty and making a comeback)

This makes no sense at all. So essentially after just one incident on any lap with another driver, you shouldn't be able to race that driver after that? Daft position, surely?


 
Posted : 23/07/2021 4:26 pm
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Ralf Schumacher offers wild theory on why Mercedes resigned Hamilton 😁

https://f1i.com/news/413102-schumacher-offers-wild-theory-on-why-mercedes-resigned-hamilton.html?


 
Posted : 23/07/2021 4:55 pm
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Hmm, it's not as wild a theory as I was hoping...


 
Posted : 23/07/2021 5:01 pm
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Anyone got £10,000 knocking around they could lend us!…

It's OK, they let you pay in four installments


 
Posted : 23/07/2021 7:19 pm
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Ralf Schumacher offers wild theory on why Mercedes resigned Hamilton

I think that I called that one a few pages back.

I reckon that Mick goes out of his way to avoid his uncle Ralf at parties.


 
Posted : 23/07/2021 7:20 pm
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Ralf, Nico, Jacques, Pablo - shame their driving skills didn't match their new found self promotion skills. I'd stick em on a slow boat to nowhere with Eddie Jordan, and maybe Horner as a bonus.


 
Posted : 23/07/2021 9:08 pm
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The always entertaining Jacques Villeneuve is our usual go-to source for silly comments, although to be fair to the 1997 F1 world champion, his judgments are often rooted in an ounce of common sense.

But Ralf Schumacher is close to overhauling the Canadian as F1's top banana when it comes to loony opinions or world theories.

I think they’ve got the measure of him.


 
Posted : 23/07/2021 9:43 pm
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Ralf Schumacher offers wild theory on why Mercedes resigned Hamilton

My initial thought on seeing this was what? Then I realised, "re-signed".


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 12:29 am
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Looks like Windbag Horner is doubling down on the aftermath of the crash saying it’s costing them millions to replace what was destroyed.

If he’s looking for sympathy he won’t get any from me.

What a douchebag.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 1:10 pm
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Looks like Windbag Horner is doubling down on the aftermath of the crash saying it’s costing them millions to replace what was destroyed.

If he’s looking for sympathy he won’t get any from me.

What a douchebag.

He should take it out of Verstappen's wages.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 1:15 pm
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Horner’s column continues the dual themes of untruths…

Hamilton braked late and overshot the corner.

…and self-contradiction:

[Max] is determined to put this incident behind him and use it as added motivation for the rest of the season, as are we.

[We] have the right to request a review. We are therefore still looking at the evidence and considering all of our sporting options.

Have to say I’ve lost all respect for Red Bull in the past week. Good job Adrian Newey hasn’t seemed to have joined the chorus, I’d be disappointed to lose respect for him as well.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 3:33 pm
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Have to say I’ve lost all respect for Red Bull in the past week.

Yep. They seem to have lost their minds over this. A bit of moaning about a ref's decision is normal, this is just pathetic.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 4:59 pm
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i’d not realized that the repair bill will come out of the happed budget. $1.8 million. perhaps this is explains the constant complaining?

though, it would’ve great if the outlets would stop giving this coverage. it’s dull. i appreciate the irony of that statement


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 7:00 pm
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Surprise, surprise - it costs a lot of money to repair a trashed racing car. They’re acting like they’re new boys to F1.

They really are knobbers of the highest order.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 7:09 pm
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Suprised Horner doesn't march over to Toto with a hand written bill, he's that much of stroppy whinging knob. Mind you, If I had to go home to an annoying ginger spice I don't think I'd have a sunny disposition either.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 9:40 pm
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Suprised Horner doesn’t march over to Toto with a hand written bill, he’s that much of stroppy whinging knob.

If he does, i hope it’s during a televised interview.

by “happed budget” in my last post i meant “capped budget”


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 9:55 pm
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Levels it out a bit, or is that car more wrecked than Bottas's one from Monza?


 
Posted : 25/07/2021 1:44 am
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He should take it out of Verstappen’s wages.

Verstappen may think twice before throwing the car into a tight spot.


 
Posted : 25/07/2021 8:36 am
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is that car more wrecked than Bottas’s one from Monza?

I think Bottas' tub and engine were ok, weren't they? Apparently, Verstappen's tub is a write off and they don't know how much of the power unit can be salvaged. I suspect engine penalties will be their biggest concern.


 
Posted : 25/07/2021 8:58 am
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Bottas chassis was a write off. Hence he got a new one that LH borrowed... Not usually an issue but they have a cost cap this year.


 
Posted : 25/07/2021 1:23 pm
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It’s actually quite interesting to see the change in social media comments since the race. At the start everyone seemed to be against LH - no doubt stirred up by C4 commentary and Windbag Horners bleating. Mercedes stayed relatively silent compared to the RB massive.
Then the racist stuff against LH started and RB said it was unacceptable but I think a lot of people put 2 and 2 together and saw they weren’t helping.
After that Windbag/RB could have kept quiet and it would probably have still looked good for them but they doubled down on the complaints with legal action/cost of repairs etc etc and the tide turned. They went past the usual F1 complaints and defence and fans knew it.
Now RB are experiencing a bit of backlash with a lot more people telling them to shut up about it.
LH has kept quiet and I reckon it’ll help him no end. He is always asking about the limits he can work up to and they seem to have changed a bit again to being more strict. He’s seen this time and time again and it will fuel him (and Mercedes). He wiser and cleverer (and more skilled IMHO and has been from his first race) than MV.
MV I reckon will probably be pushed back into being an angry spoilt driver again which will do him no good. It’s almost as if RB are being like a parent who buys their kids present even when they behave badly and it makes things worse. Merc (Toto) seem to want to work with drivers to bring the best out in the them but I reckon wouldn’t be afraid to lay the law down for the team.

I’m almost prepared to bet that LH wins his eight title this year and MV gets banned for a race for some sort of crash he causes or assault off track on someone else.


 
Posted : 25/07/2021 4:39 pm
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How many can you get
https://www.sporcle.com/games/usertimely76/formula-1-gp-drivers-2001-2021

63 for me


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 4:55 pm
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Isn't there a song from the film Frozen for all of this?! I suspect they have somewhere around zero chance of succeeding and are merely trying to unsettle Merc before this weekend...

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12365547/red-bull-launch-challenge-against-lewis-hamiltons-penalty-in-max-verstappen-british-gp-crash


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 4:09 pm
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Karen Horner.

I’ve warmed to Max this year, but my hatred for Red Bull grows daily.


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 4:16 pm
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Has anyone shown CH the footage of Max taking Stroll out yet? What a sad man! Still, next years Drive to survive should be a good watch 😀


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 4:18 pm
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Reading here it looks like they actually lodged the appeal on 23 July and have just been pissing about in public pretending they don't know whether they are going to do it or not. Doesn't make me like them any more to be fair 😀

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.red-bull-lodge-request-for-fia-to-review-hamilton-penalty-following.1BND9fIw9rWN5GynnHVVo4.html


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 4:19 pm
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is it possible for it go 'against' them and LH have his penalty removed or something?


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 4:44 pm
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Have his penalty removed so he wins the race by a bigger margin? Would be kinda funny I suppose


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 4:49 pm
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Penalties have been changed in the past on appeal - IIRC Irvine protested a 1 race ban for causing an accident in Brazil and on review they increased it to a 3 race ban. 🙂


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 4:49 pm
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You can't remove a penalty that's already been served.


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 4:49 pm
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I’ve warmed to Max this year, but my hatred for Red Bull grows daily.

Yeah this.

I was even willing to give Horner's hyperbole on race day the benefit of the doubt, but to carry on in the same vein nearly 2 weeks after the incident. I hope Hamilton stuffs Verstappen at Hungary


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 4:56 pm
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I hope Hamilton stuffs Verstappen at Hungary

I hope Max completely loses his shit and subsequently blows a winning position and takes himself out of the race by being an idiot without any third party involvement at all 🙂


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 5:05 pm
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Penalties have been changed in the past on appeal – IIRC Irvine protested a 1 race ban for causing an accident in Brazil and on review they increased it to a 3 race ban.

One ban for the accident, two for being Eddie Irvine?


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 5:25 pm
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I hope Max completely loses his shit and subsequently blows a winning position and takes himself out of the race by being an idiot without any third party involvement at all throwing a wheel up the inside of Mazepin on the most Copse-like corner at the Hungaroring and Mazepin turning in on him and Max getting a 10 second penalty that costs him a podium.

Purely to see what Histrionics Corner has to say about the matter.


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 5:53 pm
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@thegreatape - you've taken a fine idea and made it betterer 🙂


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 5:56 pm
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Let’s keep our fingers crossed!


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 5:57 pm
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Karen Horner.

Can we all appreciate this new nickname a bit more please? 😂😂


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 6:18 pm
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Well, “[Max] is determined to put this incident behind him, as are we,” as Horner said the day they filed their official whinge. What a bell end.

Can’t see that they have a leg to stand on, anyway: chances of any new and significant evidence seem roughly nil. Toto should just turn up and play a video of Horner’s interview at Portimao last year and then walk out.


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 6:59 pm
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Toto should just turn up and play a video of Horner’s interview at Portimao last year and then walk out.

That would be ace wouldn't it. Toto strolling in - shorts, t-shirt and flip flops (just to reinforce the fact HDGAF) - playing that clip and mooching back out again. And then perhaps Lewis could speak and say...

'I have nothing more to say on the matter... except Max is a pussy...'


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 7:48 pm
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Can red bull be penalised for wasting everyone's time and misusing the official procedures when they turn up without any new evidence?

Part of me wonders if they are just doing this to try and unsettle Mercedes, but it appears to be backfiring as they are the ones looking most unsettled by the abject failure of their mind games.


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 7:49 pm
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Horner is probably still sore because as team principal he was almost culpable for the corporate manslaughter of Verstappen after approving the underhand breaking of tyre pressure limits that caused that blowout a few races ago. He knows that this “desperate” (to quote a certain F1 team boss) measure cost Verstappen 25 points and is now trying anything to get them back. The only reason he’s not letting go of the Silverstone incident is to keep it in the news and distract everyone from him nearly seriously injuring his own driver with excessively deflated tyres.

What’s good for the goose……. 😀


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 8:06 pm
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Verstappen isn’t getting dragged into the mud-slinging; good on him.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.verstappen-reveals-he-did-24hr-sim-race-to-make-sure-bruised-body-is-ready.5zgs9bxbNHvFSuE7N2Exbx.html

Makes me wonder how much of his “disrespectful” comment was actually his dad, who was evidently with him at the time. Was amused to see his response to Steve Jones’ question about where his patience came from: “my mum I think… definitely not my dad!”

He seems to have come on leaps and bounds in the last year or two.


 
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"Karen Horner - Can we all appreciate this new nickname a bit more please? 😂😂"

Whinger Spice?

I'll get me coat...


 
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