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Mercedes have put a halt to Sauber-Wehrlein talks pending their decision. Doubt they'd do that unless he was a serious candidate.
Doubt they'd do that unless he was a serious candidate.
Could mean they are putting him in a Williams, rather than a Merc.
They need experience or Red Bull and Ferrari could nick the constructors title as both have two consistent points scorers.
I can't see how nursing an OK youngster is the way to go for Merc. They've already passed him over for Ocon.
Bring back Pastor!
They've already passed him over for Ocon.
Not necessarily. It could also have been Force India who were offered both of them but perhaps Ocon came with more personal sponsors or less of an ironclad Merc contract. Ocon, it should be remembered, was also Renault's test driver so isn't quite as strongly a silver-arrows man as Wehrlein. Also it seems a little convenient that Hulkenberg and Ocon swapped as Force India race driver and Renault reserve so perhaps there's a little deal between the two teams as well. It's all speculation though. Lets see who gets the deal but it seems clear it won't be Ocon as his name doesn't seem to be mentioned.
They need experience
You don't win the DTM without some ability.
You don't win the DTM without some ability.
Paul Di Resta won it! 😉
[quote=hora ]Yes he (Nico) beat the best. He isn't rated to best though. These are team managers who are very much 360degrees in the business.
I'm sure all the team managers noticed which side of the Merc garage had all the mechanical problems this year - it's only the Rosberg fanbois who claim anything other than that NR won the title due to LH's equipment problems (even Nico admits he's been lucky, but he won it and that's all the record books will mention).
Here's a wild theory. Do you think there's a fair bit of arrogance within Mercedes? Lots of talk about Nico being very intelligent that's then mirrored in the press and commentators, you then get an almost derrorgatory commentary from Wolff, like he talks about a child in regards to Lewis and then you get the recent comments from Nico asking him to move over then driving slowly etc.
Maybe it's just me but alot of people (Merc) seem to look down their noses at Hamilton, even after three titles.
I just don't get it he impression that they see Lewis as a talent or F1 great.
[quote=hora ]Here's a wild theory. Do you think there's a fair bit of arrogance within Mercedes? Lots of talk about Nico being very intelligent that's then mirrored in the press and commentators, you then get an almost derrorgatory commentary from Wolff, like he talks about a child in regards to Lewis and then you get the recent comments from Nico asking him to move over then driving slowly etc.
Maybe it's just me but alot of people (Merc) seem to look down their noses at Hamilton, even after three titles.
I just don't get it he impression that they see Lewis as a talent or F1 great.
missed this, what did he say? link?
[quote=the-muffin-man ]Paul Di Resta won it!
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Rossi in the Merc? ........ Vale that is! 😀
Pass the tin foil hat please .. its only the Hamilton fanbois that keep going on that Hamilton should have won the championship. In years to come only the result will count. The same Hamilton conspiracy could ve been said of his time in Mclaren. Really there are other drivers in F1, its like some people have shares in Lewis Hamilton PLC
Lucky I'm not in the football thread otherwise I'd be going on about Man Utd all the time 🙂
I think alonso should have won about 4 or 5 titles by now, if being the best driver was enough.
What's Hulkenburgs position ATM? He would be a compliant team mate for LH.
Massa.
What's Hulkenburgs position ATM? He would be a compliant team mate for LH.
Very recently signed to Renault and kicking himself up and down the the lane 😀
Alonso at Mercedes would make for a very, very exciting season! 🙂
This says to me "there is every chance that we are going to lose Alonso to Mercedes" lol
I think LH and Alonso could work better than people think.
They both respect each other a lot, and provided merc satisfy both were treated equally (ok maybe easier said than done) then they should just slog it out. Would be great to see FA back in a car his talent deserves.
I think a lot of FA's beef with LH in 2007 was to do with Ron, who we now is.....sometimes difficult.
[quote=cheekymonkey888 ]Pass the tin foil hat please .. its only the Hamilton fanbois that keep going on that Hamilton should have won the championship.
You what? So all the team managers are Hamilton fanbois? Anybody who isn't blind can see clearly that Hamilton would only have required an engine to get him to the end of the Malaysian GP to be champion.
PS I'm a Button fan
Alonso has got to be thinking "I didn't make the best move when I kicked off at McLaren" too.
I think LH and Alonso could work better than people think.
yep, I agree, they've both admitted that the events of '07 weren't their finest moments.
2017 F1 car mock-ups - they look like an elephant has sat on them - but in a good way!...
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I wasn't sure whether to apply until I got to the end, but the subsidised restaurant has convinced me.
Anyway, what are we making of Toto suggesting they're going to make a "brave decision"? http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/10686368/mercedes-ready-to-make-brave-decision-on-nico-rosbergs-replacement-says-toto-wolff
Sounds awfully like Alonso to me...
Even if the relationship between them is better now, If I was Alonso I still wouldn't go to Mercedes. It's Hamilton's team, the car's been developed around him, and Alonso knows full well how Hamilton can and will seek to control that, he'll spend a year being the team's second driver as he catches up, and then the next few in physiological warfare with Lewis. The engine regs change for this season, and amongst all the Rosberg/Hamilton media scrum, in the race, almost unnoticed, the fastest car?
McLaren.
Brave decision - start backing Lewis?
I hope Lewis quits. Self respect.
"Brave decision"? Maybe Niki's going to make a third comeback.
It's Pastor...
I'd be amazed (and happy) if they don't pick Werlein. Wolff allegedly dropped a big hint yesterday that it would be Werlein not Bottas.
Brave decision is Werhlein / Alonso. If Alonso did leave McLaren who would fill the second seat of Button didn't want the drive? Would Werhlein / Bottas take a 1 year deal in the similar vein to Magnussen in the Renault contract talks? I guess yes but you would always be looking over your shoulder as Vettel / Alonso contracts would be up in 2018
Have you done the BBC Poll - her are mine...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/38084694
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It won't be Alonso.
He's not the future for Mercedes - too old now.
Brave decision? .......... Well, If Rossi is up for it, the PR would be hoooooge! ......... then again it'd most likely be another Ducati story!
I'm going with Mick Schumacher going into the works F1 team not the juniors.
A bold but risky follow of Max
Better off with Werhlein , at least he has driven an F1 car. I 'm not sure Mick has a super license to race F1 as they changed the rules such that no one can follow in the footsteps of Max. The requirements of being a a champion in one of the lower recognised series and also scoring points and having some F1 mileage. Not all three but you get the gist
no one can follow in the footsteps of Max
Mercedes clout, Schumacher name ...... I'm reckon if the right people wanted it to happen, it would.
It could happen. New owners of F1, potential increase in audience interest. Go to the FIA with a case for a super licence.
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I didn't even know that Mick Schumacher was evebn a contender! 🙂
Well I put 2+2 together then threw caution to the wind. I'm going with Mick.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/38282791
So it sounds like if Merc up the offer it'll be Bottas. Would be interesting to see if he really is as good as people say...always seems a bit meh to me
^thats a BBC news story so I'd disregard a online BBC news piece
James Allen has been touting this option too
BBC usually get it right.. expect Lowe and Werlein to Williams, Allison and Bottas to Merc. Williams waiting for the second offer. Expect the news story to appear on the Sky f1 site in a couple of hours.
Daily star reporting Mick to join the Merc Jnrs cant see any other reports of him in the frame for the F1 seat, highly unlikely I reckon unless the answer is 4
Doesn't seem like a sensible choice for Williams...they end up with one (very rich) rookie and one who's done a season in a slow car and is known to be "difficult".....are they really that hard up?
It'll be good to see James Allison back in the paddock 🙂