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What are labour playing at now?
Labour isnt. Some Labour MPs are.
All those who have a long record of being pro brexit.
Cougar – see above. It’s not Labour policy it’s a splinter group of Labour leavers
I know, I was agreeing. Sorry.
I'm sure Boris just mouthed for ****s sake to Swinson
Other opposition leaders also sticking to the same line. Johnson has underestimated his opposition, they’re sticking to a combined and agreed strategy.
**** yeah!!!!! 🙂
Breaking BBC
22:11 Breaking Results of the vote for Commons control
House of Commons
Parliament
The motion to take control of the House of Commons agenda has been passed by MPs.
Ayes - 328
Nos - 301
Majority - 27
Woohooo! More entertainment at the Parliament. 😂
The GE will be interesting ... 😄
Corbyn calling for Johnson to call a referendum
Looks well coordinated set of responses between him, Blackford and Swinson.
Looks well coordinated set of responses between him, Blackford and Swinson.
They have to because they want to stop Brexit by picking it apart bits by bits.
I see that coming long time ago. 😄
Reported as 21 Tory rebels
Did a yoof just drop his bike in the pond?
Looks well coordinated set of responses between him, Blackford and Swinson.
Swinson: "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough."
OMG.
On that Clarkson tweet. I'm sure it's been suggested on here before, but I reckon a photo op round Junker's office on the 31st. "Sorry you're leaving" shiny foil sign tacked up over the copier. Slice the "Brexit day" cake, maybe a glass of bubbles, handshakes and smiles all round and front page splash on the evening edition.
Escort the press out the room, tear up the Article 50 letter and we never talk of it again.
Oh, I feel for Jenny Chapman. After all that, she has an issue about sheep with a house of a dozen people left.
she has an issue about sheep with a house of a dozen people left.
That many?
That was something that I remember from the indicative votes. After massive arguments some poor sod would be left there discussing some issue which really should have more people paying attention.
Do wonder what the point of speaking to the empty chamber really is?
Corbyn calling for Johnson to call a referendum, and pushing for the legislation to stop No Deal before any election. Spot on!
Hell of a time to find a spine JC but by heck I'm glad to see it.
Interesting that now the braying mob have all retired to the pub, it's panning out how you'd think UK parliament would work if you'd never actually seen it. This is our flagship democracy in action how the rest of the word thinks it happens.
The more he closes his grasp, the more MPs will fall through his fingers.
Well done Tory party members, you elected the very worst person to do they job you wanted them to do.
Johnson and Cumming now trying to backtrack on their withdraw the whips.
The rebels now have a second chance tomorrow to make it up to the glorious leader.
So Johnson now has to sack 20 MPs including the great grandson of his hero Churchill
The brexiteers really are clueless, moth was utterly useless as leader of common for Tories tonight
At some point leavers will have to stop listening to them scapegoating remainers, the bbc, the eu , etc
And start asking them some tough questions about why the brexiteers had no plan to deliver the brexit they promised....I
Judging by chewys comments though, they'll just keep shooting themselves in the foot until they run out of bullets, asking tough questions is too hard
Oh, I feel for Jenny Chapman
Nice dig at Boris though: "The govt has committed funds until the end of this parliament, although that may be coming sooner than was anticipated" 🙂
Boris does seem to be lining it up to be the EUs fault rather than it being due to having no plan. It's almost like his objective isn't actually to leave but to stick failure to leave on the EU
Hell of a time to find a spine JC but by heck I’m glad to see it.
Yeah he’s done well, he’s managed to unite a lot of parties in opposition, although a Boris arse kicking party would be an easy sell for anyone.
Nice dig at Boris though:
Oh, I missed that. That's beautiful.
This is our flagship democracy in action how the rest of the word thinks it happens.
Just the way it should be in the West. Other parts of the world have their own systems.
The brexiteers really are clueless, moth was utterly useless as leader of common for Tories tonight
Let's see how long will the people lend power to the Parliament. 😀
Without the people's support Parliament has no power.
Blimey my Tory MP aye’d
Johnson and Cumming now trying to backtrack on their withdraw the whips.
The rebels now have a second chance tomorrow to make it up to the glorious leader
Andrea Loathsome is saying the same, that tomorrow is 'the big vote' and making it sound like they aren't going to expel anyone on the basis of tonight.
I can't see why the rebels vote to allow the House to take control of agenda if they they weren't prepared to then back that agenda, but I'm not surprised by anything nowadays.
Put another way.....so they said they'd do something, then when it comes to it and the information crystallizes they are prepared to rethink and do something else. How undemocratic!
So did mine, Richard Benyon for Newbury. He was always a supporter of May's deal, clearly not a fan of Boris.
Kate Hoey representing the 77% of her constituents who voted remain by voting No there. Bet she’ll be popular next election.
Andrea Loathsome is saying the same, that tomorrow is ‘the big vote’ and making it sound like they aren’t going to expel anyone on the basis of tonight.
Beeb reporter is now reporting she is backtracking on that and they are getting the boot tonight.
Although how that will work if the local constituency parties disagree, as Hammond's does, could be interesting to see.
Division lists
Huh.
The nays appear to be the Tories, the DUP, John Mann (who?) and Kate Hoey (quelle surprise). No votes for speakers and Sinn Fein.
The ayes make for interesting reading. Of all people, Diane Abbott voted in favour?!
Bet she’ll be popular next election.
She is planning to quit anyway. Although not sure if that included at an early election.
tomorrow is ‘the big vote’ and making it sound like they aren’t going to expel anyone on the basis of tonight.
Before a vote, that might be a compelling threat. After the vote it's cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Ah. Irony.
My MP is a good little Tory and went with Boris. I'll have to paint some motivational statement on the steep hill she has to drive up from here house everyday, TdF style. Any ideas?
Before a vote, that might be a compelling threat. After the vote it’s cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Ah. Irony.
Better do that before the vote. Get rid of the lot of them then call a GE or be consigned to history which they are on the brink now ...
If he does that PM BoJo will be seen as someone with strength as it is time to rebuild their party or someone will rebuild it for them.
Some confusion about whether they've lost the whip or not
https://twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/1168999816816398340
Funny if he can't get the election he wants, has to ask EU for an extension & has no majority to do anything
May voted against I see?
TdF style. Any ideas?
Borrow from Led by Donkeys. Any embarrassing quotes from her in the past about being anti proroguing and so on. If not just quote johnson and co.
Or if you are talented and have time a nice pic of Rees-Mogg showing contempt for proceedings.
My MP is much the same but since it is Shapps nee Fox nee Green no chance of the arsehole taking notice.
I kind of want the commons to do that, just to either force him to stand down as PM or watch him suffer for the next three years, it's more than he deserves.
Every interviewer I’ve watched on TV has tried so hard to goad opposition MPs on the issue of not immediately backing an election without first stopping the Halloween No Deal. None have bitten. All have stuck to the plan, even when mocked and sneered at. Impressive.
Or if you are talented and have time a nice pic of Rees-Mogg showing contempt for proceedings.
I would prefer a nice pic of the Parliament in contempt of the people. 🤣
Every interviewer I’ve watched on TV ...
The media is always trying their best to ask the opposite type of questions to boost their rating. Rather normal really.
Some confusion about whether they’ve lost the whip or not
Sky is reporting a source close to Hammond as saying he's had the phone call informing him of the removal of the whip. Front bench in disarray. What a time to be alive!!
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I kind of want the commons to do that, just to either force him to stand down as PM or watch him suffer for the next three years, it’s more than he deserves.
Roger that.
As much as mitigating/stopping the disaster that is Brexit, it's just as important to me that Boris is utterly humiliated in the process.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-49557734
Government sources have confirmed to the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg that all 21 Conservative rebels are having the whip removed.
Removing the whip effectively means expelling the MPs from the parliamentary party.
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It's a mess, predictably. The highlights have been seeing Ken Clarke take apart both Boris and JRM. Even Jezza wasn't useless today. Bercow will never have to buy his own drinks again.
Oh dear. Boris is really having a tamper tantrum tonight...
I hope Nanny (Cummings) can nurse him back to sleep.
Loyal tories now number 289, down from 317 at the last GE. May and Johnson playing a blinder!
Add in the 10 DUP S&C votes and they now have 299, 27 short of a majority and still well short even when Sinn Fein and speaker's votes are included.
But yeah, democracy. Much better than those unelected bureaucrats.
Anyone else starting to see the DUP getting sidelined in the weeks/months to come?😁
bwhahahahahahah
When does the civil war start?
Anyone else starting to see the DUP getting sidelined in the weeks/months to come?😁
I asked that question a page or three back.
Dom Cummings has just blown up the Tory party
https://twitter.com/CatSmithMP/status/1169009732117512192
I’ve been down the pub. Anything happened?
Kimbers...
I can't read the rest of that tweet, what does it say?
Dom Cummings has just blown up the Tory party
what did the tweet she was answering say since its been deleted.
Red unicorns ahoy. Labour policy - according to the Corbynite yes-man non-entity on BBC news - is on winning a general election (keep dreaming, son), to carry on and renegotiate a better Brexit
The cognitive dissonance is absolutely staggering.
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Anyone else starting to see the DUP getting sidelined in the weeks/months to come?😁
DUP desperate looking for new friends tonight
https://twitter.com/duponline/status/1168977812361007105
Same DUP that recently rejected outreach from vradkaar for an all Ireland forum
I know they've been busy burning pallets tbf
Peter Walker
@peterwalker99
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I just bumped into Dominic Cummings, who was clutching a glass of red wine and wandering along the parliamentary press corridor, lost and looking for a particular newspaper office. This is not a usual occurrence.
what did the tweet she was answering say since its been deleted.
Thick Of It.
Kimbers…
I can’t read the rest of that tweet, what does it say?
I
Interesting that it's been deleted..
It said Cummings accosted Corbyn as he was leaving commons & shouted iat him 'come on jeremy, give us an election, you know you want to' then he was bundled away by horrified aides
(Paraphrasing but that's pretty close)
So Cummings wandering around parliament red wine in hand p****d out of his head?
Government sources have confirmed to the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg that all 21 Conservative rebels are having the whip removed.
Removing the whip effectively means expelling the MPs from the parliamentary party.
Well done PM BoJo! Woohoo! 👍 👍 👍
Kimbers
Same DUP that recently rejected outreach from vradkaar for an all Ireland forum
I know they’ve been busy burning pallets tbf
They really are a bunch of nasty self serving twunts aren't they.
Looks like the mad bastard Cummings is following through and removing the whip from the Tory MPs who voted against the self-serving mop
Interesting to see how he sees that as being advantageous
Nice to see them following the Trump example. Government by petulant toddler
I suppose the thing to remember is that Cummings is not actually a Tory.
Perhaps someone should tell Boris that?😆
In case anyone was wondering, every scottish Tory voted No. I was going to say "with the government" but I'm not sure there is one. Only one of them represents a leave-voting seat.
Ruth's been gone 5 minutes...
Entitled p***k.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-49573630/jacob-rees-mogg-told-to-sit-up-man
Well done PM BoJo! Woohoo! 👍 👍
Yeah amazing job, he's gone from a +1 majority to a -42 majority, after 49 days as PM ???
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In case anyone was wondering, every scottish Tory voted No. I was going to say “with the government” but I’m not sure there is one. Only one of them represents a leave-voting seat.Ruth’s been gone 5 minutes…
I think there might be a purge coming?
It occurs to me tonight looking at Mogg lying on that bench as if the whole system of this country is set up for him just for his amusement and profit... that he and his like are what we need to "leave".
If ever you wanted to see a picture of why the country needs reform here it is.
Anyone know which way the maybot voted, just curious really...
She voted with Boris I think....
Above anything, she is loyal to party.
^^ Interesting stuff!
Hahah - can't help but be a little tickled that May has got to have a bit of Schardenfreude over this. That's the face of someone who feels vindicated.
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In other news, Dominic Cummings was seen allegedly pissed as a newt and belligerent around Portcullis House, then there's the overheard phone call from an unnamed Brexity Tory along the lines of "Europe has f*****d our party".
This is only the beginning, the ERG have painted themselves into a corner while the Conservative Party implodes. Looming through the fog of unrestrained offshore donations we have the Brexit Party, run like a business with no internal democratic system of holding candidates to account ready to take the place of what's left of the Conservative Party. It's going to get nastier before the week is out.
they’ll just keep shooting themselves in the foot until they run out of bullets, asking tough questions is too hard
Hopefully they won't run out before the gun reaches their heads, but given their general incompetence one has to expect disappointment.
I for one fully support Chris Grayling for the post of Conservative Party Chairman.
Anyone else with me?
Seconded.