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DUP are now getting very nervous
Have they actually received any of the bribe they were promised in return for propping up the government? If we get another election, could they end up with nowt?
And yet he’s played the long game here.
You must be mad to think that he has any kind of long term plan at all. He's even keener on Brexit than Rees-Mogg.
Not many pages back we were hearing how may had played a blinder and this was all her grand plan
Why would he want to postpone something he’s been campaigning for over 35 years
Cos he's a democrat. If the majority of Labour supporters wanted to remain he'd have to change his mind.
https://twitter.com/SimonNeville/status/1016326356169314304
meanwhile do the 1922 committe have 48 letters yet???
I reckon not
Aaand no Brexit White Paper this week...
Far more important business to attend to.
Emily Thornberry has just been on Radio 5 running through the labour party's own magic unicorns Brexit. In 'a' customs union, but not 'the' customs union, outside the single market but with full access to the single market, and an end to freedom of movement
None of which is on the table, has ever been on the table, ever will be on the table or even open to debate
We really are ****ed! They're all as delusional as each other. Two cheeks of the same arse!
You must be mad to think that he has any kind of long term plan at all. He’s even keener on Brexit than Rees-Mogg.
Evidence of that?
Otherwise he wouldn't have kept quiet.
Emily Thornberry has just been on Radio 5 running through the labour party’s own magic unicorns Brexit. In ‘a’ customs union, but not ‘the’ customs union, outside the single market but with full access to the single market, and an end to freedom of movement
Im going to cut them all a bit of slack here. Things have got so intertwined who in their right mind could find the best path out of this and define it?
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And yet he’s played the long game here.
My gut feeling is that he's played the wrong long game. I reckon that the only time they'll really be comfortable being against brexit, is when there's actually a real, final, established brexit on offer and it's a total undisputable disaster.
But while that's on track to happen, we haven't actually got there. Right now, brexit is going nowhere but not because of brexit- because of Tories. So while they've been handed an open goal it's not the open goal they actually want. Right now, too much of the blame can be put places other than the basic madness of brexit and it's still possible for brexiteers to say "It would work if it wasn't for you remainers" and all that shit.
Ironically, this government is too incompetent to even deliver a clearly disastrous brexit.
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My gut feeling is that he’s played the wrong long game.
Maybe. I dare not predict anything these days.
BoJo resignation qoutes on BBC now, he is invoking empire and all that crap there
Him and DD might be planning a shot at the top job. A team that nobody could beat I'm sure.
May's kicked the can a bit further, brexit white paper been delayed another week now, so I don't think there will be enough support to oust May just yet.
& Everyone thinks Johnson is a shit
A full 2 pages there
That’s because he is a shit and has no support, even grass roots died in the wool Tory’s think he’s a proper embarrassment. He has brought nothing but hatred down on the party for his own political gains.
Hes an embarrassing fop who ought to crawl off to Argentina where the rest of them live out thier petty lives whilst forgetting thier own pasts and the chaos they cause/caused.
There will be a sigh of relief in the constituencies tonight.
The Tory’s must be sick and tired of being called out as racist nimbies and it’s only just sinking in.
The Tory’s must be sick and tired of being called out as racist nimbies and it’s only just sinking in.The Tory’s must be sick and tired of being called out as racist nimbies and it’s only just sinking in.
I know some of them must find the truth hurts too much
When it comes to being a complete and utter weapons-grade **** he really is in a league of his own
Is it time to follow Icelands' example from 5 years ago?
But the idea is sound. May could say “we need a reset to undo all the brexitteer minister’s bad work so are deferring a50 while we work out a plan”
Why would the EU extend A50, it was set at 2 years for a reason. That both main political parties were happy to trigger it with no plan wouldn't really give the EU much reason to rethink.
have to say there's been a definite shift in the gammons on the bbc HYS brexit stories! the top rated on the boris quiting is
Abandon Brexit altogether. It's not worth all the harm we are doing to ourselves. 988 up vs 660 down votes.
6 months ago it would have been 50:50 and a year ago would have easily been the other way round.
6 months ago it would have been 50:50 and a year ago would have easily been the other way round.
Does this in some way correlate with the desire to not have another vote or to ask any more questions by the hardline
next top rated is
Good riddance to him too. Sheer incompetence and utter shambles in so-called government – not fit to govern. End this madness and give the PEOPLE a VOTE.
807 up vs 432 down
6 months ago top rated would always be "you lost get over it" or words to that effect.. maybe the bbc is better at filtering out russian bots these days
should we move this discussion to the cycling forum, now that Boris has linked cycling and Brexit in his resignation letter.
I really feel like laughing a lot about this. I mean, the Nasty Party are going to immolate themselves at last over this Brexit nonsense. Having caused the issue entirely by themselves and Call Me Dave’s desperate need to shore up his own pillocks. Then May doubles down and gets herself in hoc to the DUP, who just happen to be in the one part of UK that has the most immediate and dangerous implication. Hilarious.
But then you realise that these bastards might even dare to ruin this country’s prospects for decades to come over what was always at heart a political in-fight between the ‘Only a bit nasty’ faction and the ‘outright foaming at the mouth racist’ faction within one party. Fueled by the like of Dacre - who really needs a shoeing. It’s my and my kids future at stake whilst these morons and shysters play their little fantasy games - all the time knowing they’ve probably got an off shore nest egg to insulate themselves from the economic holocaust they are likely unleashing. At this point you are wondering if there is a book depository anywhere near Boris’s route to work.
Why would the EU extend A50, it was set at 2 years for a reason.
EU have said it could be extended if requested.
Maybe, but this is a mutual bi-lateral need for both.
The EU, unlike the U.K. are a progressive and intellectual organisation not a retarded bunch of halfwits like the Tory’s are.
Cancelling A50 is simple, as simple as “we ain’t ready, we are unable to complete it, therefore we withdraw it” and the EU would say... “well, whilst we see all that effort you’ve made we understand the error of your ways and we have no problem with cancelling a50”
Mutual agreement. There isn’t anything in Law that can not be rescinded.
Mutual agreement. There isn’t anything in Law that can not be rescinded.
This exactly, the writing is going up on the wall day by day BoJo has a put up or shut up moment here, no amount of letter writing can make him anything more than a footnote.
we ain’t ready, we are unable to complete it, therefore we withdraw it
But would the EU be happy to accept that? If we said we screwed up and leaving is actually a bad idea. can we please withdraw I can see a better outcome. Simply saying we screwed up, but still intend to leave, sorry for wasting everyone's time, we need to waste more of your time.....
BoJo has a put up or shut up moment here
The problem is that has always been the way to deal with the brexiters sniping from the sidelines (or from the inner circle), just keep pushing them for their plans instead of allowing them to make vague promises of empire and taking back control. But no one does question them, and they just keep on quoting their vacuous soundbites without ever having to explain what they mean or give any detail, and to be honest I expect that situation to continue.
We don't just have a failure of the politics, there has been and abysmal failure of political journalism.
Today has been a good day 🙂
I can see a better outcome. Simply saying we screwed up, but still intend to leave, sorry for wasting everyone’s time, we need to waste more of your time…..
Better for who?
The bit about then needing us more than we need them is within the union. It's a perfect example of how getting out and being out is a much worse situation than any member had considered. The EU will not force the UK out - certainly not without it's exit payments - this will be the sort of stuff BoJo will be posturing with though
I made the mistake of listening to that prick farage on LBC a few minutes ago, he had a brexit supporter call in and say "if we don't fully leave the EU then i'm never voting again".
Eureka!.....Wow that's it, - if the other 17,410,432 ****tards who voted for brexit follow suit then all our problems are solved.
Looks like the Tories are getting starting to fall apart in public.
https://twitter.com/SayeedaWarsi/status/1016329921449390081
Better for who?
Simply closure, the world moves on, how much time does the EU want to spend dealing with the screaming child at the back of the class and how much to moving forward. New trade deals with Australia and NZ, the African Union, dealing with migration from Africa and the Middle East east. As well as Italy, Greece, etc.
Ah so not better for the UK....
So Boris has resigned because 'his conscience' told him to.... and if we don't deliver substantial progress, Farage is coming back.
Jarvis had it right (VVVNSFW but I won't apologise)
Why would the EU extend A50, it was set at 2 years for a reason.
What was the reason, out of interest?
I made the mistake of listening to that prick farage on LBC a few minutes ago, he had a brexit supporter call in and say “if we don’t fully leave the EU then i’m never voting again”.
Eureka!…..Wow that’s it, – if the other 17,410,432 ****tards who voted for brexit follow suit then all our problems are solved.
There's been a lot of talk about this in the brexity corners of Facebook over the last few days. The remain group I'm in has been all "OH NOES whatever will we do?!"
In other news, I have to share this with you.
Last night I went to a pub quiz and got a taxi home. The driver was a bloke of Asian descent, presumably ****stani, as is common for minicab drivers in East Lancashire. Maybe in his 40s or 50s, I wasn't paying that much attention.
Halfway home he spontaneously sparked up a conversation about Brexit, I'd had a beer or six so I don't remember exactly how it started now but it quickly descended into the usual tripe about the EU making our laws and all that jazz. My beer-fuelled brain went "right then, I'm having you" and launched. "Well, that's just not true, is it," I said, and explained about how all of the laws coming from the EU were endorsed by us and in many cases we actually proposed them. And of course, there's the ever-reliable "what rules do you object to, name one." He then went on a couple of other typical leaver flights of fancy which I roundly, if slurringly, rebutted. I expect it wasn't the direction he expected the conversation to go and sadly probably not how he's used to his fares responding.
And that's when it all went a bit... weird.
After he'd run out of semi-coherent arguments, he started going on about how the EU was really run by aliens, they were planning an invasion and we had to leave the EU to protect ourselves. The only way we were going to survive would be to isolate ourselves from the rest of the world in some sort of bubble or something. There was more, full-on David Icke conspiracy theory stuff, I forget now. Before I had time to say anything in reply he was pulling up outside home so I paid, left, and then burst out laughing so hard that I had to hold on to a garden wall to stay upright and the neighbours shouted out of their bedroom window to tell me off.
People, eh.
People, eh.
yeah, move along, no lizards to see here.
then burst out laughing so hard that I had to hold on to a garden wall to stay upright and the neighbours shouted out of their bedroom window to tell me off.
That's an awfully long-winded way to excuse yourself rolling home paralytic and annoying the neighbours with your braying and snorting. 🙂
Did they fall for it?
Another one's gone. Chris Green just walked.
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1016391868849033218
That’s an awfully long-winded way to excuse yourself rolling home paralytic and annoying the neighbours with your braying and snorting.
Not saying it's aliens but...
Chris Green just walked.
Sums up the recent performance of the Transport Department. Probably departing four hours late. Did he manage not to trip over his laces?
And does this mean his boss is planning similar if he can get someone to write the letter for him and remind him where the exit is?
Is it nasty to ask "who" when they say Chris Green has resigned?
Is it nasty to ask “who” when they say Chris Green has resigned?
Exactly my reaction. Someone on that Twitter feed responded that he's the Accrington Stanley of politics.
Sums up the recent performance of the Transport Department. Probably departing four hours late.
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Exactly my reaction. Someone on that Twitter feed responded that he’s the Accrington Stanley of politics.
See if you want to make a name you have to be in the top 5 otherwise you get no headline
Green's resignation letter:
https://twitter.com/CGreenUK/status/1016388724974915584
One of the more choice replies:
@The_JPR
Replying to @CGreenUK @ParlyApp
Ah there we go. Who had Chris Green in the resignation sweepstakes? Anyone? Nobody? Okay, it's a rollover. #MayMustGo
May’s letter to BoJo is Fantasic
I like his substance there, really brings a lot to the table, makes a lot of sense there - yep just another bag of hot air there
And to save the searching
Who is Conor Burns and does anyone give a ****?
why does she make a party political points to someone in her own party ? Most strange, it's almost like it's not to Mr Johnston at all.
It's in tune with Johnson's letter, which started life as his Sunday Telegraph column but was rejected for being too pompous even for them.
Conor burns...... Looks properly #gammon
why does she make a party political points to someone in her own party ?
She needs to kill off the rebellion, negotiating isn't going to work. Yest the letter just like BoJo's is not to the person who is named at the top it's meant to court public opinion.
Who is Conor Burns and does anyone give a ****?
Coincidentally resigning as the PPS to the Foreign Secretary shortly after his boss takes a walk, and shortly before a new Foreign Secretary is appointed who would probably have him dispatched back into the backbenches.
1 November 2017 - Fallon
8 November 2017 - Patel
20 December 2017 - Green
29 April 2018 - Rudd
8 January 2018 - Greening
8 July 2018 - Davis
8 July 2018 - Baker
9 July 2018 - Johnson
the carnage will continue
It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre.
The irony of how apt that quote is when applied to Britain 2016-18 and the Nasty Party in particular just makes me chuckle every time.
When the bloke who's in the Dept for Transport who isn't good enough to be Chris Grayling quits then you know that the sanity of the remain option should never be in any doubt.
isn’t good enough to be Chris Grayling
Just about the worst insult in politics there.
https://twitter.com/mrchrisaddison/status/1016407255950987264
Chris Addison is having some fun today
Isn't it time the queen stepped in and put and end to this mess? What are we paying her for again?
Jeremy Hunt is the new Foreign Secretary!
Jeremy Hunt is Foreign Secretary. Well at least it gets him away from the NHS.
I was excited when I seen the news flash on my phone, then disappointed to hear he’s still an MP.
Sorry posted in the other one but we all need a laugh
Why would the EU extend A50, it was set at 2 years for a reason.
What was the reason, out of interest?
I can can imagine the conversation as sat around thinking about the clause before they picked a number out of the air.
2yrs?
yes, we don’t want it to drag on too long plus anyone considering leaving the Union will have put significant time and energy into their own impact assessments and plans, either that or they have descended into some kind of financial ruin/dictatorship and then it will be a break like when the soviets cleared all external debts/funds/contact
My recommendation:
Have a think about all this then watch a Wile E Coyote and Roadrunner compendium.
The similarities are uncanny. Hilarious. And all he has to do is find something else to ****ing eat. But he can’t because he’s a mangy, avaricious, thick animal who hasn’t got any awareness of the bigger picture or a second brain cell to keep the first one company.
There the similarities do end, though, because he wasn’t appointed by the Great (pah) British public to run a country and then it isn’t quite so funny.
Jeremy Hunt is the new Foreign Secretary!
That noise you just heard was three quarters of a million nurses cheering.
The elephant in the room now of course is, who's going to backfill C- uh, Hunt's role?
who’s going to backfill C- uh, Hunt’s role?
I feel a bit sorry for Raab although I quickly get over it when I read some of what he has said.
If he hadnt just accepted the Brexit job he could have ended up foreign secretary.
Well I think we are now into the Ugly Kids getting invited to the dance, they think they are there on merit...
Or the ones, like me, who were last to be picked for football.
I could be foreign secretary.
So Liam Fox.....
Seems to be keeping a low profile.....
I think he is very confused.....
Looked very twitchy at PMs questions? Are the other "boys from the Brexit" bullying him into departing or is he too scared of the Head Mistress?
Deep down he knows he will never get a front bench job again...
It's pretty sad though... If england bring home the world cup, there'll be no cabinet to put it in
Liam is increasingly like Baldrick at Dunny-on-the-wold. He won’t do anything until his master says so.
Disgraced Liam has actually probably got the best job(?) in the world though doing his flying around the world thing.
Probably doesn’t want to lose that little number.
what a ****ing idiot, getting a photograph of himself signing his resignation letter
The elephant in the room now of course is, who’s going to backfill C- uh, Hunt’s role?
Chris Grayling.
Sorry. Not funny.