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She's safe as houses. Not even Boris is stupid enough to want to take over this shitshow as it all falls apart. They want May to carry the can for it
Despite Corbyn using last weeks PMQ's to talk about buses, Labour are now ahead in the polls
Was that the face of a dejected man i’ve just seen coming out of n10?
Didn't look at all bothered did he, well you wouldn’t would you having scavenged a fully expensed piss up in the best hotels in Europe for the last couple of years.... and produced a summary report that said “best keep it like it is, just give it another name”
Pathetic Tory Contard.
Just been reading up on Raab C Brexit. He's a charmer, isn't he.
Out of the same mould as Dickie Davis only further right and seemingly with more brain cells. That's a dangerous combination.
So Johnson failed to turn up to todays COBRA meeting
As foreign Secretary Borris Johnson Im sure he has far more important things to be doing than concerning himself with the murder of a British Ciztizen by a foreign power
Like plotting how he can turn the absolute shambles of Brexit into a career opportunity
You forgot his £140,000+ yearly salary for accomplishing sweet ****-all for the past two years.
So Johnson failed to turn up to todays COBRA meeting
He didnt turn up at a summit but the excuse was it was a COBRA meeting instead but now it all seems confused.
Maybe he has got stuck on a zip line somewhere. Either that or someone driving a bulldozer saw him and decided to help him keep to one of his pledges for a change.
johnson has quit?
Yup, Boris gone. Self destruct mode has been well and truly engaged...
Fantastic, how long until a new election? Most likely with article 50 paused indefinitely
I thought T dawg might be a bit brighter and as soon as Dimpy Davis flounced (which should have ben obvs.) she'd announce that "it was like herding cats" and a more "capable" leader was needed so she's standing down but STRONGLY recommends Bozza J for top job with JRM as deputy.
Hands (sort of) washed of the forthcoming train wreck and nicely stabbing two of her biggest "b******s" (<b>©</b> JMajor) in the face.
Too slow. Too late.
Rees-Mogg next?
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JRM is not a minister. He just talks like he is.
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Hardly worth Trump coming to visit this week as they'll be no one left to greet him. Result!
what has happened to Mrs Mays blinder ?
Little Liam next for the full house of brexiteer dimwits?
Klunk - to be fair it is getting rid of a lot of dead weight
Rees-Mogg next?
As 16stonepig says he aint a minister. He just stands outside the tent pissing in.
I'm enjoying all this.
It was always a case of when, not if. I'm amazed they kept a lid on it for this long
They'll be at each other like rats in a sack now though
Excellent!!!!
foxy is too dim to even understand whats goin on
I'm willing to place a bet that the formerly disgraced former minister Liam Fox will throw in the towel next.
The winner of that bet will be a charity of my choice.
Fantastic, how long until a new election? Most likely with article 50 paused indefinitely
Article 50 has been triggered - there's no pause, we either go ahead with it and crash out of the EU or abort it and beg Europe to forgive all.
Corbyn now needs to grow a set of balls and come out in favour of remaining and really go to town on the Tories and brexshit.... Tell us exactly what they will do and then hope an election comes as they tories fall further apart
Liam Fox has got the message
hes called his staff in for a speciall meeting
EU have said A50 could be extended, but we have to ask for it
I’m enjoying all this.
I'm not, and the problem has always been that while the tory shysters jostle for power and think they are being all machiavellian, the futures of 60 million people hang by a thread. It really is time to take these ****ing ****s out of office by force.
Awesome, it’s all I’ve been calling for ever since this pathetic political boys club started infighting.
By by you lying halfwit.
Of course he had no support, no one left to prop up his ego and he hated being the brunt of his own incapabilities.
I think he was pushed though, MayBot told him to tow the line and he’s such a petulant idiot he didn’t understand the question.
Of course the cynic in me says this was all designed from the outset of the result, one to play the “we’re taking back control” to fool the public in thinking the Contards had the right way to go about running and ruining the country.
Morons taken over the asylum? Nope just incompetent pre-teens having an internal strop at our expense.
Thanks idiots, you truely are nasty pieces of human.
Brilliant. They either have to challenge her leadership and end up landed with a disaster they now know they cannot fix or go down in history as failed spineless quitters.
I’m not, and the problem has always been that while the tory shysters jostle for power and think they are being all machiavellian, the futures of 60 million people hang by a thread. It really is time to take these * * out of office by force.
This is exactly my thought. This is much, much bigger than party politics and yet that is what it seems to have descended in to.
How the chuff have we managed to get in a position where 15 months after triggering article 50 the ruling party finally publishes its policy (not what's actually going to happen mind, the eu have not even had their say yet) and then implodes. Surely you get your shit together before you send the letter. We've got 9 months left ffs.
This is properly not funny.
Tell us exactly what they will do and then hope an election comes as they tories fall further apart
Maybe I'm being optimistic but I suspect this is exactly their strategy. Wait for the tories to implode and with it turn much of the population against brexit, then take a softer stance in advance of a new election.
And Gove has been neatly trapped as well. Whatever he does now everyone will hate him.
And Gove has been neatly trapped as well. Whatever he does now everyone will hate him.
Now?
Whatever he does now everyone will hate him.
You say that like it's anything new.
Votes on Boris's replacement, then? Rudd? And Pob for PM within a week.
Williamson rubbing hands with glee?
Even Bercow trolling May openly in HoC right now
Quick Blame the EU!
We’ve got 9 months left ffs.
Less six months for the EU parliments to vote on it
Less the UK parliments vote on it
Less the summer break
So really the tat just issued was the first and last attempt at a solution...
Corbyn now needs to grow a set of balls
Say what now? This guy is a total waste of space.
John Smith, Tony Blair, Neil Kinnock, christ even Michael Foot would've ripped this shower a new arsehole by now, but this idiot doesn't have the fortitude to actually take a stance.
He's as bloody bad as Boris.
This flew under the radar. Steve Baker walked shortly after DD.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-44766822/steve-baker-on-his-resignation-as-brexit-minister
Say what now? This guy is a total waste of space.
John Smith, Tony Blair, Neil Kinnock, christ even Michael Foot would’ve ripped this shower a new arsehole by now, but this idiot doesn’t have the fortitude to actually take a stance.
He’s as bloody bad as Boris.
The biggest insult to Labour right now is that even as The Conservatives rip themselves apart, Labour are making little or no gains. The are being given an open goal and they are doing all they can to miss it. Idiots.
The biggest insult to Labour right now is that even as The Conservatives rip themselves apart, Labour are making little or no gains. The are being given an open goal and they are doing all they can to miss it. Idiots.
Yep, It's laughable.
is there an upside for Labour getting off the fence ? What they win from Libdem remainers they lose in express reading working class voters and visa versa - there are probably very little gains for them in tory heartlands either way
Labour are making little or no gains. The are being given an open goal and they are doing all they can to miss it. Idiots.
Playing devil's advocate here - why would they actually want it? I can't see anyone in their right mind wanting to be in power right now.
Labour are on a sticky wicket. Conventional thinking suggests that a large percentage of their traditional base support are still very pro leave. Sometimes the clever thing to do is say nothing, and allow the opponent to destroy themselves. I hope.
why would they actually want it? I can’t see anyone in their right mind wanting to be in power right now.
Because they are the opposition and it's kinda what we pay them for?....
At least there are some politicians who are on the right side of the argument, capable of summing up the situation without spin or dogma. If we have yet another election, perhaps this chap can handle things?
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This flew under the radar. Steve Baker walked shortly after DD.
& been replace dwith the guy that wanted a list of all acadenics that opposed brexit
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Phil Hammond has just given May his "full support". Isn't that usually the first step in mounting a leadership challenge?
why would they actually want it? I can’t see anyone in their right mind wanting to be in power right now.
Because what we need now is politicians who will provide a direction for the good of the country instead of the good of themselves and their party, not that there seems to be any ****ing chance of that.
Where's Wolfie Smith when you need him?
What an absolute shower of shit this government and the opposition have got themselves in, I despair, can we not just banish the lot and start again?
Because they are the opposition and it’s kinda what we pay them for?
That doesnt mean that it would be a good idea for them to commit suicide. Although Labour party members are majority anti Brexit a lot of Labour constituencies voted for Brexit. So if they went anti Brexit they could risk being wiped out entirely.
Somebody dig out that graph that shows Labour have all of 3 swing constituencies to win by being pro-EU.
Bugger.
Where's David William Donald Cameron? Shurely he'll know what to do?
"Get the pig! Get the pig! No! Just the front bit!".
"Niiiiiicceeee...."
Apparently if cabinet members had resigned at Chequers, they would have had to walk a mile to the gate and find their own transport home. Davis and Boris are just lazy tight fisted gits resigning now.
So if they went anti Brexit they could risk being wiped out entirely.
Yep. They won't gain tory seats and will just lose some labour seats in which case they will never get into power and therefore not be able to do anything for the good of the country.
Phil Hammond has just given May his “full support”. Isn’t that usually the first step in mounting a leadership challenge?
Just like when football clubs say the the manager has the full support of the Board, just before they sack him?
we really must be an EU laughing stock.
May was a remainer wasn’t she? Is it feasible that this is all part of the grand plan to give the brexiteers enough rope, let them well and truly hang themselves, and then cheerily call the whole thing off? Or am I giving her too much credit by several orders of magnitude?
I strongly suspect the latter, unfortunately.
A lot of those core working class voters though would rather die than vote Tory.
they vote UKIP
Corbs doesn't need to call it off anyway, he can just say "we need a reset to undo all the tories bad work so are deferring a50 while we work out a plan" - job done?
Sometimes the clever thing to do is say nothing, and allow the opponent to destroy themselves. I hope.
Yep, it's been a smart move. The amount of vitriol being poured on Corbyn over this is laughable.
And yet he's played the long game here.
why would they actually want it?
To save the UK from remaining hamstrung by the Neoliberal Rich Man's club of the EU, comrade. ...but yes in practice they deffo don't want to be in power.
...and Boris will never lead the Tory party, he's the Tory Corbyn and they've seen how that film ends.
Supporting "Brexit, but not this Brexit" just means that he ends up exactly where May is now, should he win a snap election. Where does that get us? Different colour, same mess. Someone needs to get support for a manner of achieving Brexit, or for not carrying on with it. Constructive ambiguities only work 'till you have to present a plan, and get people to back it, as this week is showing.
Corbs doesn’t need to call it off anyway, he can just say “we need a reset to undo all the tories bad work so are deferring a50 while we work out a plan” – job done?
Why would he want to postpone something he's been campaigning for over 35 years and which would make his last election manifesto legally possible.
But the idea is sound. May could say “we need a reset to undo all the brexitteer minister's bad work so are deferring a50 while we work out a plan”.
Mind ewe, is that even required. Parliament have already voted for an indefinite interim period - that's "remaining" AFAIC.
Why would he want to postpone something he’s been campaigning for over 35 years and which would make his last election manifesto legally possible.
wow are people still pushing that myth?
What a bloody mess!
Given our shit FPTP voting system, once May came out and said Tories were pro-Brexit in the recent General Election, we needed Corbyn to say Labour were anti-Brexit. Lib Dems were anti-Brexit, but due to the FPTP system, people would see it as a "wasted vote" to suddenly change to them when Lib Dems were often the third party at best.
We either need May to see sense and scrap A50, or for another General Election to be called and have at least one of the two main parties to go Bremain.
... And then please give us a better voting system for the future, along the lines of Proportional Representation.
Politicians need to stop this shenanigans of using Brexit as a weapon of power between parties and within parties, we've seen enough economic decline over the last ~23 months and the Brexit deal currently looks like it's no better than what we have had since the EU powers have silently grown over 40-odd years.
Now is the time to stick the boot in to may though. If somebody in pmq could just manage to ask how much brexit is going to cost so far.... Of course pm you know the figures don't you....
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I do think this is a clear out, MayBot has seen the “quality” and “attitude” of her senior ministers and taken too much flack for it.
So, it’s just inevitable that heads will roll.
Project Brexit have had forty three years to get their sh** together. Forty three years.
FORTY F****** THREE years.
And this is the best they can do.
If it was a coherent set of ideals and with a reasonable plan, heck, I might have gone for it or at least, not remoaned. But this just a gushing, fountain of shit.
No politician interested in winning power is going to admit that brexit cannot work. Not until the public have changed their mind that is. This is why Corbyn won't declare his position. If they lead the anti-brexit argument then they'll be accused of being undemocratic. The tories are doing a damn fine job on their own of undermining it so there really is nothing to gain by labour declaring a position until the public have got sufficiently sick of it that they want it to be cancelled. Why would they do anything else?
Another general election please and have Corbyn pledge a 2nd referendum if elected.
Just heard there's a Private Members Committee meeting been scheduled for 5:30. Leadership battle in 5... 4... 3...
Now is the time to stick the boot in to may though. If somebody in pmq could just manage to ask how much brexit is going to cost so far….
Civil service bill was £2bn so far, who knows how much final cost would be, prep for no deal (May just saidallowing £3bn), FAC U customs proposal is a huge IT infrastructure project, May already admitted it wont be ready until 2022 (& then some....)
JLR say theve spent over £1m on no deal prep so far
DUP are now getting very nervous
The Labour party are no less split over Europe than the Conservatives we just don't see it because they aren't in power so the focus isn't on them but I have no doubt that if they were then they'd be pretty much tearing themselves apart too.
I think we can expect a general election by September and a hung parliament after that which is basically the worst possible outcome.
I think we can expect a general election by September and a hung parliament after that which is basically the worst possible outcome.
Depends which way a coalition falls and how much brexit truth is used in the debate.