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Today is the day when even the most foaming at the mouth hardline Brexiteer will be faced with a great big chunk of reality, as opposed to their delusional Empire 2.0 fantasies.
With all the votes in Parliament on the Lords amendments next week, I'll be absolutely amazed if the Tory party and this sorry excuse for a government hasn't imploded under the weight of its own ludicrous contradictions by next Friday.
They'll be setting about each other like rats in a sack
I heard that DD has already resigned but still expects the exact same benefits of cabinet membership.
Well Done Captain....
Am I right in thinking that today is where the proverbial shit hits the fan?
At the moment they have 2 people holding the fan trying to outrun the shit
just seen a rumour on twitter that UKIP mEPs including farage will be having their pensions frozen until fraud investigations concluded & potential fines docked 🙂
As for Davis, what a prick, hes throwing a tantrum over setting a date for an NI backstop that
a) the EU will never accept anyway, because...
b) its impossible to give a date as the systems & technologies he wants to use dont exist yet !
DD still not resigned?
as Cummings said, Thick as mince, Lazy as a toad, Vain as Narcissus
hes just doing this for attention, its all bluff & bluster but he knows hes got no other ideas anyway
Him, Johnson, Gove, Mogg. They're all full of shit.
Its obvious that they're all happy to have to sling mud and behave like children having tantrums when they don't get their way, but they're all scared shitless of ending up having to ultimately carry the can for any of this debacle.
May should call their bluff and say "well *ing resign then! Or I'll tell you what... I'll resign and you *ing sort it out then!".
If she did, I'd put my house on the fact that they' all sit there with their thumbs up their arses and not do a bloody thing
Or sack the **** so he can't claim a ****ing knighthood.
If she did, I’d put my house on the fact that they’ all sit there with their thumbs up their arses and not do a bloody thing
Yep heard one brexiter calling from the safety of his safe tory seat that we need to make the EU blink first, they need to know we are prepared to walk away to drive a good deal. I'd suggest the idiot tries his philosophy in Tesco's but I'm not sure he would know how to find one.
and in related news,
another rat deserting the sinking ship
I notice the Mail story on this is not currently accepting comments, for some reason. 🙂
If May had any balls she would call his bluff. But she doesn't and he knows it, so he won't actually resign, we'll just stumble on past this crisis and onto the next one.
As for Davis, what a prick, hes throwing a tantrum over setting a date for an NI backstop
They've come to an agreement "The UK's proposed "backstop" plan for trade with the EU after Brexit has been published after an "expected" end date - of 2021 - was included in it."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44391539
Bwahahaha!, a finger of fudge is just enough to give Derpid Durpis a treat.
So still no decision made on what unworkable plan they want to proceed with 🙄.
As long as the Tories stay in power, nothing else matters
They have agreed on the wording, that is it, not what is inside.
**** why won't the ****ing ****er just **** off. ****.
Can once again hoofed down the road until.... mmmmm...... Monday?
It's like Groundhog Day, isn't it?
"It just can't work," an EU diplomat told me in exasperation this week. "Theresa May has so many nooses dangling around her neck that one of those nooses is sure to hang her."
we live in hope 🙂
Still in - and it's getting closer.........
Has Davis taken anyone out yet?
Just when you think you have reached peak stupid!
I cannot believe how incompetent and deluded these guys are.
The "negotiation" has been actually worse and the outcomes worse than any of us thought.
From the BBC article:
He reportedly added: "You've got to face the fact there may now be a meltdown. OK? I don't want anybody to panic during the meltdown. No panic. Pro bono publico, no bloody panic. It's going to be all right in the end."
Well, that's alright then. I'm feeling much more positive about it now.
interesting takes from the same side of the fence
And yet he still won't get sacked!
He will just carry on blundering around the globe as a suitably fitting national embarrassment. They must be sat laughing their tits off at all this in Brussels, safe in the knowledge that no other member state would even dream of subjecting itself to this utter self-destructive insanity
Just a pity Bojo broke after HIGNFY was filmed yesterday.
And yet he still won’t get sacked!
<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">As Ian Hislop said once "She can't sack him because if Brexit goes belly up he can claim to have nothing to do with it."</span>
Consistent thing about the last 2 governments is that Johnson has undermined May at every turn.
Of course she won't sack him.
Has any government ever invested so much time in attacking itself?
This 'leak' is just preparing the way for another leadership bid, he might try again soon
The worst thing that any politician can ever say is “I don’t want anyone to panic...”.
Brexit is a fool’s errand, it won’t fix anything beyond giving a few gammons something to be happy about until it goes pears.
What I love about Johnson's speeches it perfectly illustrates the monumental arrogance of him and his entitled ilk.
When he talks about there being 'bumps in the road', like its nothing.
Those 'bumps in the road' will be peoples businesses going to the wall, people losing there homes. People having their lives turned upside down.
Boris and his ideologically crazed chums literally couldn't give a ****!! They're happy to sacrifice the lot on the alter of their own self-advancement and limitless greed
Same as Trump then.
Same as pretty much all of the Tory party
And as predicted
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/08/michel-barnier-rejects-may-uk-wide-brexit-backstop-plan
The more I read his statements the more respect I have for him
In response to Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, who suggested in leaked comments that a “meltdown” in the talks was coming, and that the UK could benefit from the assertive negotiating style of Donald Trump, Barnier said: “I always listen very attentively to what he says and it is always very stimulating.
🙂 🙂
Loving the frothing from the DUP betraying the will of the people, when
a) they agreed to this in December
b) they represent a region that voted to remain by 60% 🙂
Britain is being asked to pay x-amount as our EU divorce bill.
Pop quiz?...how much did Germany pay the UK in reparations following WW2?
For those of you who can't be bothered to look it up Germany paid several countries some reparations but not the UK.....now think about that stupid, arrogant, inflated and pompous divorce bill again...why the hell should the UK pay anything unless Merkel leads by example and starts paying back some WW2 reparations...to put it in context, Britain held a legal democratic vote to leave and is being financially punished.....Germany illegally destroyed half of Europe and a good bit of the UK and pays bugger all?...seems about right for the corrupt EU and it's this rubbish and double standards that Leavers like me want to get away from.
An even better quote from Barnier:
"Backstop means backstop"
Brilliant! They're enjoying themselves that much, they're now just trolling Theresa May
Who's twitter is that from Deviant?
you should mention the World Cup for a full bingo !
sorry to give you the bad news , but you are not leaving anything just yet .
and have a LOL too , for free .
For those of you who can’t be bothered to look it up Germany paid several countries some reparations but not the UK…..now think about that stupid, arrogant, inflated and pompous divorce bill again
Good god. And I thought Davis was stupid. Christ alive.
Pop quiz?…how much did Germany pay the UK in reparations following WW2
Beginning before the German surrender and continuing for the next two years, the United States pursued a vigorous program of harvesting all technological and scientific know-how as well as all patents and many leading scientists in Germany (known as Operation Paperclip). Historian John Gimbel, in his book <i>Science Technology and Reparations: Exploitation and Plunder in Postwar Germany</i>, states that the "intellectual reparations" taken by the U.S. and the UK amounted to close to $10 billion.<sup id="cite_ref-8" class="reference">[8]</sup> German reparations were partly to be in the form of forced labor. By 1947, approximately 4,000,000 German POWs and civilians were used as forced labor (under various headings, such as "reparations labor" or "enforced labor") in the Soviet Union, France, the UK, Belgium and in Germany in U.S run "Military Labor Service Units".
the allies also realised forcing financial reparations on Weimar Germany after WW1 helped in the rise of the Nazi party.
We're still paying for the transition period because the idiot brexiteers havent got a plan that will be in place for the date of brexit, so we have to keep paying the subs!!
anyway, wait youre now blaming WW2 for Brexit, is that right? brilliant
Well I suppose most of the people who voted for Brexit were alive in WW2 so may still be bitter about it.
wait youre now blaming WW2 for Brexit, is that right? brilliant
Does that mean I can now blame Brexit for WW3?
Devi - you need to try harder. You need to lure us in, and then go all batshitcrazy.
Does that mean I can now blame Brexit for WW3?
careful what you wish for 🙁
They say it couldn't happen again.....
Does that mean I can now blame Brexit for WW3?
Cameron was waaaayyyyy ahead of you. Without our civilising influence the Europeans will be stuffing each other in ovens again. Apparently.
BSA bantam was war reparations. We took the dkw design and machines to build it and renamed in the BSA bantam. Plenty of other examples of this sort of thing
Oh - and the "divorce bill" is actually stuff we have already agreed to pay..
Its like going to the restaurant and agreeing to split the bill but having had all the food leaving during coffee and refusing to pay your part of the bill.
Cameron was waaaayyyyy ahead of you.
Nope, that was entirely a Boris fabrication. See, the bullshit sticks in the ears long after anyone is considering the issues.
deviant stop with the crap about reparations, how much is 800 years of English abuses in Ireland worth, how much is 1/4 of the Irish population starved by the English worth.
I don't see the UK government paying Trillions to India for destroying their economy.
Who’s twitter is that from Deviant?
Another absolute stroker
https://twitter.com/DKShrewsbury/status/999668615585595392
That's why China forces their trade deficit on us, it's payback for the opium wars!😜
Brexishambles is proceeding just as us remoaniacs predicted,-
as it all goes tits up, it's everyone else's fault; remainers saboteurs, Cameron (fair point actually), the Germans (circa 1945) , the EU, the BBC..... Anyone but the blowhard Brexiters & the dupes that voted for the 'easiest deal in history' who actually believed that 'the day after the referendum we will hold all the cards' 😂😂😂
it's a shame most brexiteers won't be around when we apply to rejoin the EU (probably vetoed by Turkey) and having to accept the euro, kilometers on our road signs and driving on the right 😉
May has actually said today " no one said it was going to be easy" Now I am sure quite a few brexiteers said it would be.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/patricksmith/nobody-said-it-was-easy?utm_term=.pl6MO96yp#.gk1MJGYg9
Liam Fox:
<h1 class="headline">the Brexit deal will be the 'easiest thing in human history'</h1>
I'm still not convinced we will leave, the commons votes next Tuesday could be carnage, especially if Labour MPs decide to do their jobs and actually vote on something for a change, that would be novel, them being the opposition and all.
having to accept the euro, kilometers on our road signs and driving on the right
Bring it on. We need bring down a peg or two.
Oh – and the “divorce bill” is actually stuff we have already agreed to pay..
Its like going to the restaurant and agreeing to split the bill but having had all the food leaving during coffee and refusing to pay your part of the bill.
Isn't it more like trying to end your mobile phone contract, and them saying "ah well, you have to give 6 months notice"... even though that wasn't in the contract when you signed it?
No, because we did sign up to commitments, which is why there's a divorce bill.
Ah,ninny and devi,two cheeks of the same arse.
And Trump the hole between them.
Ah ninfan say it loud say it proud and pretend it's true
Unfortunately, these are not the criteria for handling complex negotiations with the EU. For them, the UK ****ting around with backstops is just not cricket. They don’t really deal in backstops. What they really need to hear is that the UK is going to have four slips and a gully, and a forward short leg. Or, given our increasingly defensive needs, everyone on the boundary, including a third man and a deep fine leg.
Stolen from the grauniad
The going out for dinner with 27 friends analogy better fits the 'divorce bill'.
It's a 3 course meal, and you need to leave for (reasons) just before the after dinner coffe/liqueurs are served.
You announce that that you're not going to pay and then escape through the small window in the toilet, and then act supprised that no one asks you out for dinner any more.
That's what a hard brexit is.
I thinking it's amazing that Davis & co + plenty of brexies are trying still trying to pretend that no deal is a threat we can hold over the EU,
Yes WTO would hurt everyone, but we are dependent on imports for food & fuel, 3rd country means permanent operation stack, until we get a trade deal. We go from frictionless to red tape & paperwork overnight.
We don't have the infrastructure to handle that at our existing ports, let alone at NI border.
May promised nissan etc continued CU & SM frictionless trade for supply lines, but already EU governments are expanding customs infrastructure & advising their manufacturers to bypass the UK, not coz they think no deal is a threat, rather, our government are so incompetent they are likely to blow the whole thing.
Yet the question time audience, Twitter, telegraph, BBC, daily fail comments still full of people that think Johnsons guts n glory bullshit is just what we need & that anything that denies their fantasy is PROJECT FEAR!!!
still blue passports, they're a win
@ninfan. Despite several months of exchanges on this site, I’m still not sure if you’re a hard-right provacuer or if you’re then classic contrarian, calling out what you see as hypocrisy amongst a fairly leftist leaning forum community.
Or whether you’re simply bored.
Unfortunately, these are not the criteria for handling complex negotiations with the EU. For them, the UK ****ting around with backstops is just not cricket. They don’t really deal in backstops. What they really need to hear is that the UK is going to have four slips and a gully, and a forward short leg. Or, given our increasingly defensive needs, everyone on the boundary, including a third man and a deep fine leg.
All we appear to have right now is silly point
Don't worry, it'll soon be our chance to bat (2 mins on in case video starts at the start)
This just keeps getting weirder.
https://twitter.com/DamianCollins/status/1005479652427796480
Something’s clearly up. Arron_banks and andywigmore now say they do want to give evidence to CommonsCMS on Tuesday because of story that’s about to come out about some emails - which I don’t have a copy of btw. Must be significant, to make them change their minds again
(I think at this point even the weirdness of the STW forum "formatting" has been surpassed).
Well there is a great Trump Smokescreen about to hit
It's Meuller time in the UK ?
https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1005498543740727301?s=19
That donation via the DUP, you just know it came from vlad one way or another
So Mail on Sunday editor not dicking about, DM readers gonna get a shock when he replaces Dacre in September
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1005555363087831041?s=19
DM readers gonna get a shock when he replaces Dacre in September
Wonder what is the overlap between the two? From my extremely expert opinion, aka vague recollection of doing a paper round many years back, I thought most of the all week people had the sunday paper as well. Then a few with just the Saturday or Sunday papers.
The summary the Guardian (or Observer if you are being picky) doesnt look particularly good although for anyone who was already slightly skeptical about those "rebels" standing up against the "elites" not overly surprising. Question is would it dent the belief of those who have been invested in Brexit for a while or not. I suspect not since there does seem a happiness with foreign elites so long as they are properly authoritarian and dont mess around with any vague pretences towards democracy. I do wonder how those ranting about the EUSSR can manage to reconcile it though. Surely cognitive dissonance has its limits?
So turns out Isabel oakeshott sat on these emails for 2 years, knew that Banks lied about russian contacts when she wrote his biography with him,
But after her email was 'hacked' she's gone for the Pete Townsend defence .... She's writing a book about russian electoral interference 🤔🤔
The tides turning now. The media is shifting their stance. Chuckling at that prat THM constantly criticising us for refusing to respect "the will of the people".
May should bleat on about how she is willing to respect the "will of the people" but not the will of the kremlin.
A big juicy get out carrot is in front of her.
Be patriotic , blame Russia and rip up article 50.
May should bleat on about how she is willing to respect the “will of the people” but not the will of the kremlin.
A big juicy get out carrot is in front of her.
Be patriotic , blame Russia and rip up article 50.
I wouldn't count on it.
The commons votes on Tuesday should be an absolute car crash in light of this, I read that farage is under investigation by the EU for fraud and has had his EU pension frozen too..