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So Brexit will strengthen the EU's borders even if it doesn't strengthen the UK's. Perhaps.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39502316
So the same people condeming the horrific attacks in syria are in the next breath planning the best way to stop the poor victims of attacks like these from entering our country..
sickening hypocrits..
@tp why do the Gulf states like Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Dubai and North African states like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisa and Egypt take so few (possibly zero) refugees from Iraq and Syria ?
@tp why do the Gulf states like Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Dubai and North African states like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisa and Egypt take so few (possibly zero) refugees from Iraq and Syria ?
[url= http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anhvinh-doanvo/europes-crisis-refugees_b_8175924.html ]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anhvinh-doanvo/europes-crisis-refugees_b_8175924.html[/url]
EU Parliament / Democracy. Yup they had a vote and talked about "red lines" but the EU Parliament will have absolutely no contact with the UK. All they will do is vote on the deal presented to them by the EU Comission. Isn't that exactly what Sir Keith, Lib Dems and the SNP have been compaining about so bitterly with regard the UK Government ?
@tp why do the Gulf states like Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Dubai and North African states like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisa and Egypt take so few (possibly zero) refugees from Iraq and Syria ?
Turkey
Lebanon
Jordan
Saudi
UAE
Iraq
Kuwait
Egypt
Algeria
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LibiaAll take more than the UK.
According to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War
To be fair we have committed a huge amount of aid to refugee camps, second only to the US. The question is whether it is better to keep them closer to home or not? Our government has felt it is.
the EU Parliament will have absolutely no contact with the UK
They would if people wrote to them.
jambalaya - Member
EU Parliament / Democracy. Yup they had a vote and talked about "red lines" but the EU Parliament will have absolutely no contact with the UK.
Except of course some of the EU parliament are from the UK including your own Dear Leader.
All they will do is vote on the deal presented to them by the EU Comission. Isn't that exactly what Sir Keith, Lib Dems and the SNP have been compaining about so bitterly with regard the UK Government ?
Not quite. They, very sensibly, were asked what they wanted from the deal and answered. Whereas our own parliament have been told to stay out of it by May and her 3 Brexmigos while being bullied all the while by the rabid Brexy press.
But hey, it's been a good week for remain as the Brexies march from faux pas to cockup.
Life is good.
Guess the one benefit of brexit is that farage will no longer be able to attend the EU parliament, and won't be able to embarrass us.. an utter arsehole of a man, what he is still doing there, I've no idea..
@tp why do the Gulf states like Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Dubai and North African states like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisa and Egypt take so few (possibly zero) refugees from Iraq and Syria ?
I'm not convinced I want to measure our level of humanity against Saudi or some of those others to be fair.
@tp why do the Gulf states like Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Dubai and North African states like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisa and Egypt take so few (possibly zero) refugees from Iraq and Syria ?
Dunno, but I'm sure Theresa brought up the subject on her trip to see the Saudis, and they will be changing their ways forthwith, just as soon as they have quit bombing Yemen.
Seaso Farage is representing the people who elected him. That's his job until 2019. Them he'll be drawing his very generous EU pension.
That's his job until 2019. Them he'll be drawing his very generous EU pension.
dont be silly a highly principled brexie like farige would be honour bound to refuse such payments
@mrmo hopefully the EMA's 25 year lease in Canary Wharf has an expensive break clause or ideally none at all. Employees at EU institutions like EMA benefit from super low taxes. No loss IMO.
another roaring success for the brexiters
the dumbing down of the UK continues apace
[url= http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKBN1771XM ]The €322m/year European Medicines Agency (EMA) and its ~900 staff prepare to leave London...[/url]
On what basis @kimbers, as a "highly principled Brexie" he's contractually bound to receive them and so he will.
For all the gibes at him here and in Brussels he has almost single handedly delivered the Referendum and Brexit. Phenominal really.
Staggers me how many European politicians thought we would not actually leave/trigger A50 and how many think we will rejoin. The EU's (public) responce to Brexit is even more EU integration which even the Remainers said we didn't want.
Kimbers mrmo already posted that
Ooh we are cosying up to Russia now 😕
I'm a remainder. I want it.The EU's (public) responce to Brexit is even more EU integration which even the Remainers said we didn't want.
http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKBN1771XM
My partner works in pharma and says loss of the EMA is a very serious blow to the UK's industry, will beyond the immediate loss of 900 (properly paying tax contributing) jobs.
*ing Brexie ** who can't add 2+2. Makes me effing angry. Sit tight in your poxie little ghettos as the walls go up around you and your kids opportunities are blighted (at least, the ones you've bothered to educate - mostly you haven't have you?), idiots.
Sorry must have got out of the wrong side of bed this morning! Hello all!
Thanks to igm for the optimism, really helps.
The EU's (public) responce to Brexit is even more EU integration which even the Remainers said we didn't want.
We didn't I think, but if forced to choose between that and walled into Wangland with the quitters in charge - which seems to be the alternative - I'd go for the integration and FOM any day.
My partner works in pharma and says loss of the EMA is a very serious blow to the UK's industry, will beyond the immediate loss of 900 (properly paying tax contributing) jobs.
its OK because jambs and his hero farige got the oldies out to vote and theyve all shafted the young remain voters and they now have fakecontrol of their smaller, weaker, less influential Britain, phenomenal, indeed.
jambalaya - Member
Kimbers mrmo already posted that
let me guess, you still have no response to it?
Jamba knows that this is all starting to collapse just like the forecasts said. But just like housing booms or dotcom booms you can't say anything or it'll just come crashing down around your ears.
The boy ain't daft.
Me? I want a swift collapse that gives us time to say "us? Leaving? No, must have the wrong country" before we're committed to the carnage.
Remember the boiled frogs and burning platforms beloved of 90s management training courses?
No loss IMO.
So what's the positive spin on this one?
For all the gibes at him here and in Brussels he has almost single handedly delivered the Referendum and Brexit. Phenominal really.
You've got to be joking?!
Tory Eurosceptics got nothing to do with it then?
My partner works in pharma and says loss of the EMA is a very serious blow to the UK's industry, will beyond the immediate loss of 900 (properly paying tax contributing) jobs.
That can't be true! jamba says it'll be fine!!
[quote=nickjb ] The EU's (public) responce to Brexit is even more EU integration which even the Remainers said we didn't want.I'm a remainder. I want it.
Me too
Employees at EU institutions like EMA benefit from super low taxes. No loss IMO.
I think that brilliantly sums up the ignorance of Brexiters
Completely ignores the loss of reputation for the UK science and pharma industries.
More than that it will harm our own access to new medicines, the Ema has worked closely with the NHS regarding pricing and access for drugs.
Now all these functions will have to be performed by our own Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency which will be forced to expand to cover them demand, however with the loss of the unified European market regulations will take longer to approve, 6 months to a year longer in similar countries like Canada, suspension etc, ,(turns out testing new drugs is complicated stuff) we are ,3% of global drug sales rEU is 22% so obviously mrha we will be a lower priority for them.
Good news for the EU country that manages to secure it though, jambs may find it hard to believe but plenty of countries are vying to have all those tax dodging lawyers, scientists, medics and experts contributing to their country
Kimbers - does that mean people will wait longer for new drugs perhaps? Some folk might even have to travel abroad or in extremis die while waiting for drug approval?
Well it'll help control the population like the Brexies want I suppose.
Not good I agree.
Jamba is so one-eyed it's ridiculous.
turns out testing new drugs is complicated stuff
Who knew medicine could be so complicated?
Moly - Jamba is just hoping he hasn't trashed the country and trying to put a brave face on in public.
Who can blame him given how it's going?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/06/ryanair-uk-flights-brexit-deal-wto
Anyone want to play Poker?
One way to get control of how many people are entering the country back.
Until any open-skies agreement is reached we'll see more of these stories as it's simple listed company risk evaluation and statement.
But, leave it too late (post this time next year) and you'll find concrete plans will be made based on what each business believes is the likelihood of whatever plan they think may be in place.
And this should apply to ANY listed business, not just airlines, otherwise they (could) have shareholder (legal) issues.
b r - it's not just likelihood but risk management. They'll have to plan for the worst even if they expect the best.
^^ yes agreed. It's management's job to plan for different scenarios. It's their job to let shareholders know they are making such plans
Let's prepare a few scenarios here and see which ones fly
wonder how much all of this extra planning is costing companies?
Jamba knows that this is all starting to collapse
To the contrary news has been increasingly positive, I just couldn't be bothered to post.
The thread really has deteriorated into a Remainers winge fest.
Meeting my MP tomorrow to reinforce my priorities to her for the negatiations. Then the Cotic QECP demo day 🙂
Onwards amd uowards I could not be more optimistic
To the contrary news has been increasingly positive, I just couldn't be bothered to post
looking at what you do post then this positive stuff you have must be super bullshit for you not to bother posting it.
To the contrary news has been increasingly positive
Care to share it?
To the contrary news has been increasingly positive,
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he trolls he scores
Meeting my MP tomorrow to reinforce my priorities to her for the negatiations.
What are they?
[I]b r - it's not just likelihood but risk management. They'll have to plan for the worst even if they expect the best. [/I]
Yes I know, just trying to put it in laymans terms.
Bendy bananas, incandescent lightbulbs and a vacuum cleaner that can tear a hole in the space-time continuum.What are they?
Oh, and a pint of champagne.
Don't forget the right to murder newts!
Jamba's jumped the shark re the EMA. I could comprehend, without agreement, a position of "it's a price worth paying because we get x y and z instead", but to just say it doesn't matter is blinkered fundamentalism.
Don't forget the right to murder newts!
Is "newt" now a euphemism for foreigner?
For all the gibes at him here and in Brussels he has almost single handedly delivered the Referendum and Brexit. Phenominal really.
No that just makes him a * supported by a bunch of *s.
They say that "one mans' terrorist is another mans' freedom fighter".
I think in the case of Farage, it is "one mans' hero, is another mans **** of the highest order".
For all the gibes at him here and in Brussels he has almost single handedly delivered the Referendum and Brexit. Phenominal really.
Farage is important but don't underestimate the effect of Aaron Banks' funding.
“Whatevs,” says Banks when I bring up the Electoral Commission. “I don’t give a monkey’s what the Electoral Commission says.”
No that just makes him a * supported by a bunch of *s.
Half the country thinks he is a saviour and deserves a knighthood.
Welcome to divided Britain.
Seriously remainers now is the time to sit back and let the madness take its course, this is a self fulfilling prophecy. The rabid Brexiteers and poorly educated people who supported this have to step the **** up and sort this. The simple fact is that the bulk of the remain voters are better educated and financially insulated than the poor sods who supported Farage. History is littered with populist disasters and those that support such things invariably end up paying the price.
Agreed.
Nice ride in this morning. Bit chilly but that's over 180 miles this week. Over 200 by the time I get home.
Just thought I'd bring some cycling onto the forum - I know someone will disagree but it takes all sorts.
Isn't cycling popular in France and Belgium?
Foreigner lover! Traitor!
Well I married a foreign lass too.
She's English, I'm Scots.
Wont someone think of the children 😉
Did the same BTW
Junkyard - lazarus
Wont someone think of the children
Particularly during the 6 Nations.
good lord they have enough issues without you making them watch the wrong ball sport
History is littered with populist disasters and those that support such things invariably end up paying the price.
Indeed they do. The problem is the damage they do en route.
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and.......
That can't be real
That can't be real
I saw it this morning. It needs the full text for the [s]dog-whistling[/s] plausible deniability you'd expect when it's defended.
Fill your boots...
https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/status/850004921911054336
Nice people over at Leave.EU.
Been busy lately so what's the latest news regarding EU Bureaucratic system slow collapse? Any news? 😛
For a while I could see the EU Bureaucrats flexing their muscle at The Rock. 😆
Mainly Brexies collapsing presently chewkw
Odd double post
igm - Member
Mainly Brexies collapsing presently chewkw
Crikey that's not good news so shall we double our efforts in hammering the EU Bureaucratic system then ... 😆
You do that
@matt it should not be a total surprise if EU bodies chose to relocate given Brexit. That was my point.
Had a meeting with my MP today, did not discuss Brexit. Press Regulation and anti-Semitism where the main items.
Ignore - wrong one
Were you implying it was Gove? 😆
No - you wouldn't get any change out of Gove on press regulation.
Jamba - agreed. Winding up the local MP is great fun. I'm doing it by email / letter as (cowardly Brexy in a remain constituency) he won't hold surgeries at a time when anyone other than pensioners can get there.
I've got him up to 3 page replies though. Good collection of HoP stationery at our house now.
[url= http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/15188663.FULL_STORY__Stroud_shopkeeper_run_over_in_vicious_gang_attack/ ]http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/15188663.FULL_STORY__Stroud_shopkeeper_run_over_in_vicious_gang_attack/[/url]
Brexiters you enabled this, lets hear you start to sort this out!
In the interests of completeness, "Police stress gang attack was ‘not a racist crime’"
That's a brave man who intervened. Respect.
Much respect to him indeed.
Mine is PPS to the Minister for Culture, Media & Sport - which is very handy given my (minor) campaigning for Hacked Off. we didn't much time on Brexit tbh as other issues where more pressing - just reiterated my priority was global initiatives and WTO was an acceptable outcome.
Perhaps not surprisingly she said Labour are in freefall, MPs/researches etc all desperately looking for jobs as rhey know 2020 is going to be a disaster and under Corbyn there is no sense of ever achieving anything
So much like the rest of the country come 2020, eh Jamba? 😉
You Brexies really have messed up Britain haven't you?