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We are bought up in that sort of condition and much worst. Our government discriminates people as a way of life. It is the norm over there. Race and religion are seen as one and if we don't belong to their definition we are legally discriminated even when we are citizen.

Wouldn't you like to break that? Prove to them that you are equal, thatbyou shouldn't be discriminated against? I don't undestand why you want to perpetuate this bullshit. You do it through humour, but it's discrimination against you and it's not funny, or normal.

So idealistic, so naive ... 😆

Prove to who? What for? If people don't like me so be it coz I ain't going to change them. I Don't want to change them coz that is who they are. That is their identity. Just like you and who you are.

They change when they are ready and by themselves.

It is funny because you are more afraid than I do ... 😆

I don't travel half the world only to be frighten by such minor things in life put it this way. 😆


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 12:35 am
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Problem is Jamba, if it had been 70-30 then I'd have said clearly I got this wrong, I should live with it.

But it wasn't. It was half and half, and as you know Brexy support is melting away. So this referendum will be unfinished business for years.

And that piece is political bullshit, isn't it. Could have been written by an idiot like Farage.


 
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It is funny because you are more afraid than I do ... 😆

Neither through experience or through thought bro. I'm Welsh. 😉 The way that you react to it is quite telling though. 😆 And naff all to do with Brexshit.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 12:39 am
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Actually I found a bit I like

People who voted Leave and people who voted Remain coming together to find the best way forward.

Time to come together and scrap Brexit - agreed?

Like I said earlier, David Davis is starting to head that way. Time to encourage him.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 12:40 am
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Ya, nothing new I am afraid. Been there, done that and it is the norm and way of life for me. Been trained since kid.

Well if that's what you want, enjoy the beatings the more extreme elements of the Brexy front will be handing out, at least we have the NHS to patch you up - if you make it to the hospital.

Like I say, you have down the wind.

Beating? Been there done that too as we used machetes back home. Plenty of gang or race fights back home too.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 12:44 am
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And chewkw - interesting that one with so few fears chooses to hide behind a keyboard. Says quite a lot.

back home too.

Interesting choice of words for a Brexy. Thought this was home - no? And did you explain to the immigration folks that you used machetes on people or were you just saying that for effect?

Come have a pint and let your anger go.


 
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Beating? Been there done that too as we used machetes back home. Plenty of gang or race fights back home too.

#Boom
And chewkw - interesting that one with so few fears chooses to hide behind a keyboard. Says quite a lot.

I disagee and possibly quite the opposite in that the anonymity allows such bravado. Viva Gran bretana!


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 12:46 am
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As a eu migrant I can vote for local elections but can't for general election. That is the rule and I am happy with it.

Switzerland is made of various cantons, they need immigration. A lot of people working in Geneva live in France. The boarders are open.
And they also need to keep their neighbouring countries happy, their banks like to be discreet and would not like someone looking too closely at their practices.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 12:48 am
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I disagee and possibly quite the opposite in that the anonymity allows such bravado. Viva Gran bretana!

Actually I don't think you do disagree or at least I agree with you.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 12:51 am
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Chewk, you aren't painting a very positive picture of north Borneo.
What was the main reason for you coming here? You seem to have been subjected to racial discrimination was that a factor for you?
Previously you have mentioned you are pro death penalty can I ask for what crimes ?


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 12:53 am
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Indiscriminate use of machetes I'd say


 
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Beating? Been there done that too as we used machetes back home. Plenty of gang or race fights back home too.

#Boom

I am afraid that is Not your culture but ours so not really reflective of anyone apart from myself. 😆

Don't get me wrong we may wild back home (they don't call us wild men of Borneo for nothing) but I am certainly civilised in BritLand.

I can defend myself if I need to put it this way - no brainier really.

The only thing all of us cannot defend against is the ZM bureaucratic underhand tactics ... They will destroy you/us with their smiles thick rules.


 
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Chewk, you aren't painting a very positive picture of north Borneo.
What was the main reason for you coming here? You seem to have been subjected to racial discrimination was that a factor for you?
Previously you have mentioned you are pro death penalty can I ask for what crimes ?

Probaly the best way in confronting someone who is used to playing with machetes is not confrontation, no?
I am afraid that is Not your culture but ours so not really reflective of anyone apart from myself.

Have we met? Are you really saying that unless that someone is from your culture that they can't understand your plight! Wake the coffee up shit fer!
The only thing all of us cannot defend against is the ZM bureaucratic underhand tactics ... They will destroy you/us with their smiles thick rules.

Are you not one of those yourself? In which case it's pretty easy to pull apart the stitches. 😆 😆 😛


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 12:59 am
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I am afraid that is Not your culture but ours so not really reflective of anyone apart from myself.

You really are quite innocent in your way aren't you.

Read up on my home town's history. Glasgow if it helps.

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Indiscriminate use of machetes I'd say

Not me but majority of my countrymen would use them to defend themselves against others ... tribal war etc and as farming tools put it this way.
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Chewk, you aren't painting a very positive picture of north Borneo.
What was the main reason for you coming here? You seem to have been subjected to racial discrimination was that a factor for you?
Previously you have mentioned you are pro death penalty can I ask for what crimes ?

I am just telling you the non-touristic truth.
Ya, discrimination is amongst the factors but generally I just want to see the world. i.e. To see what big deal it is and perhaps settle down if I am happy with that location. Toon is fine so far.
Ya, I pro death penalty for crimes like murder mostly ... in my part of the world drug trafficking, drug pushing and murder. Not sure about treason ... I think it might be if justify.


 
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Ya, I pro death penalty for crimes like murder mostly ... in my part of the world drug trafficking, drug pushing and murder. Not sure about treason ... I think it might be if justify.

Derek Bentley would like to shake your hand on ths, but he a can't due to an administrative error. Oops!


 
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I am afraid that is Not your culture but ours so not really reflective of anyone apart from myself.

You really are quite innocent in your way aren't you.
Read up on my home town's history. Glasgow if it helps.

Not innocent but rather prefer to keep things simple coz life is already complicated as it is.
Ya, one of me colleague is from Glasgow so I shall ask him ...
Ya, Scottish people can fight coz it's in their blood. 😛


 
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Ya, I pro death penalty for crimes like murder mostly ... in my part of the world drug trafficking, drug pushing and murder. Not sure about treason ... I think it might be if justify.

Derek Bentley would like to shake your hand on ths, but he a can't due to an administrative eeror. Oops!

Life is cheap back home. Put it this way we are surrounded by 350 million people so we don't mess around ... whatever errors there may be and there are many (mostly political related) people just deal with it. They may be angry etc but people just move on.


 
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Life is cheap back home.

Less cheap than here? What's your point?
How do you deal with the error? Me thinks that your drum banging here hasn't let you move on. 🙁


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 1:30 am
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Life is cheap back home.

Less cheap than here. What's your point?

I am saying that death penalty is the norm (for serious crimes) in that part of the world because that is the way they deal with serious crimes.
How do you deal with the error? Me thinks that your drum banging here hasn't let you move on.
What error? There is no error. There cannot be error because the govt covers it in my part of the world.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 1:36 am
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Ya, Scottish people can fight coz it's in their blood.

Possibly. Maybe not. Who knows.

We do know a good deal when we see one. 1707 or June 23. And they're only talking about leaving the UK because they think it's going down the tubes (I don't by the way, not yet) and they can see a better deal.

Why do you think Nicola is trying to do a in UK and in EU post Brexit deal? Because Scotland would be minted in that scenario. Don't worry about the chances of it happening, it'd be worth trying whatever.

And trust me, Scotland can spot a good deal. The rest of the UK ought to take note.


 
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I am saying that death penalty is the norm (for serious crimes) in that part of the world because that is the way they deal with serious crimes.

How do they deal with the miscarriages of justice? Or should we accept your (singular) view of justice over here?
Not a very good argument for leaving the EU if you ask me. #Cringe
I also tried to teach those stupid Frenchies (in spite of that Napoleon git) how to drive on the left, it didn't end well. 🙁


 
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Ya, Scottish people can fight coz it's in their blood.

Possibly. Maybe not. Who knows.

We do know a good deal when we see one. 1707 or June 23. And they're only talking about leaving the UK because they think it's going down the tubes (I don't by the way, not yet) and they can see a better deal.

Why do you think Nicola is trying to do a in UK and in EU post Brexit deal? Because Scotland would be minted in that scenario. Don't worry about the chances of it happening, it'd be worth trying whatever.

And trust me, Scotland can spot a good deal. The rest of the UK ought to take note.

Nicola is doing what Nicola does best as a politician.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 1:46 am
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Not innocent but rather prefer to keep things simple coz life is already complicated as it is.

That rather sounds like an excuse to put your head in the sand!

We've plenty of ideas, personally unshackling ourselves from the economic corpse which is the EU will be a good first step.

Crikey, that spiel of yours sounds an awful lot like you're proposing a union of sorts with Europe..

Oh..

When are you Breshitters going to wake up & smell the coffee & realise that what you want you've just flushed down the bog!

The deal you think you are going to get?

Not a chance, not this side of the Second Coming!


 
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How do they deal with the miscarriages of justice? Or should we accept your (singular) view of justice over here?

Err? Your justice so do as you like as I am not bothered. Keep whatever rights you like etc ... I am not bothered.

I just want the EU bureaucratic system dismantle and disappear forever.

Not a very good argument for leaving the EU if you ask me. #Cringe
I also tried to teach those stupid Frenchies (in spite of that Napoleon git) how to drive on the left, it didn't end well.

Nobody is talking about death penalty in Europe so you can sleep well.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 1:52 am
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I just want the EU bureaucratic system dismantle and disappear forever.

But as you said you're governed by Borneo culture, not British culture. Think about it

In other news.

Fruit pickers.


 
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I just want the EU bureaucratic system dismantle and disappear forever.

But I want European justice for my family that lives in that part of the world. What can I do?
#Empire
Unless, of course, you object to me coming up and kicking the shit out of you because you've looked at me the wrong way.


 
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Not innocent but rather prefer to keep things simple coz life is already complicated as it is.

That rather sounds like an excuse to put your head in the sand!
Nahhh ... you just have different perspective that's all.


 
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But I want European justice for my family that lives in that part of the world. What can I do?
#Empire

Ya, nothing much you can do apart from moving to Europe like me moving to UK from Borneo really. If I can do it you should too. Yes, do it.
Unless, of course, you object to me coming up and kicking the shit out of you because you've looked at me the wrong way.
Nahh ... there is no such thing nowadays.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 2:09 am
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😆

Well I've enjoyed this evening.

We discovered how deluded Chewkw is.
Jamba tried to jump in but retreated (smart move Jamba - I'd have done the same)

Meanwhile in real news the government is softening again on Brexit.


 
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I just want the EU bureaucratic system dismantle and disappear forever.

But as you said you're governed by Borneo culture, not British culture. Think about it

In other news.

Fruit pickers.

Actually I am governed by both. With the Borneo Culture I become the wild man of Borneo, while with the British culture I practice my debating skills with the remainders by understanding their spins.

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Well I've enjoyed this evening.

We discovered how deluded Chewkw is.
Jamba tried to jump in but retreated (smart move Jamba - I'd have done the same)

Meanwhile in real news the government is softening again on Brexit.

Glad that I have managed to entertain you.

I am watching American Pie while replying to you lot too.

Whatever softening that is ... 😆


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 2:35 am
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I got censored by the mods for suggesting that chewkw should go back whichever basket case of a country he comes from and stop trying to destabilise ours and bring it down to the same level... don't feel so bad now


 
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Borneo is an island divided into countires so you can't have a Borneo passport. It's like saying "I'm Scandanavian", "North Borneo" is parhaps a reference to the area that was historically British North Borneo which is currently part of Malaysia. North Borneo geographically is [url= http://theconversation.com/refugees-and-asylum-seekers-in-malaysia-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unexpected-8532 ]Malaysia[/url] and Brunei. Your popoulation figures, conditions of entry and ethnic/religious conflict references don't stack up Chewkw.

I'm aware of how important being well integrated is. Being on the side of right and good is even more important as you are judged by what you represent not just who you are. Like a bag of M&Ms, the colour doesn't matter so long as they all taste good.

So meet up for that beer, or better still a bike ride and try to avoid laughing at whoever you meet - laughing with them is OK. Nice out, laters.


 
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Edukator, Chew is pulling your leg a bit. Borneo: Malaysia, Brunei or Indonesia passport all possible as you say, I think he's posted his nationality before. Someone of chew's nationality should benefit from the end of freedom of movement as his fellow countrymen and women will have a level playing field to apply for a visa. Ditto my Indian relatives.

As I posted before for a while in early 90's in the US ran an immigration drive via a green card lottery with quotas by country, why not do the same with a bias towards under represented regions like Latin America, Asia and Africa ? Why not have a portion of student visas which can be turned into work visa for the best students, we just offer work visas to top 10% ? This is controlled and managed immigration not the ludicrous free for all we have now.

igm much as I'd like to I can't spend all day and all night on STW, I have to pick one 🙂

Italy and Austria voting today. My guess is a big defeat for PM in Italy but he tries to weasel out of resigning (as he said he would). Austria too close to call but Brexit and Trump makes a Hofer win more likely. No result there till mid next week is my guess.


 
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Meanwhile in real news the government is softening again on Brexit.

Softening as in holy ***p

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Posted : 04/12/2016 11:02 am
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igm much as I'd like to I can't spend all day and all night on STW, I have to pick one

I respect your decision and value your ability to make it. 😉

Like I said it was a smart time to leave. You made the right decision.

Interesting points you and Edukator make about Chewkw though. I really am coming to the conclusion he is a role someone is playing.

Nipper - I assume in that analogy Brexit is sh**e.


 
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Of the most malodorous variety.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 1:59 pm
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So presumably Terri the PM is constipated. That would explain a lot


 
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Hang on..so our resident Brexit fanatic doesn't even come from these shores? Am I alone in thinking this is ironic?


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 2:05 pm
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And another one doesn't live here and wants to live in Switzerland.

But yes, Chewkw espouses a desire (an active choice even) to live in a Britain that (like it or not) is partly formed by its membership of the EU and at the same time wants to destroy that. And doesn't understand that he is likely to be a loser out of the racism Brexit has released.

Ironic doesn't cover it.


 
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And another one doesn't live here and wants to live in Switzerland.

Jamba? Surely not????


 
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I got censored by the mods for suggesting that chewkw should go back whichever basket case of a country he comes from and stop trying to destabilise ours and bring it down to the same level... don't feel so bad now
(General reference to remainders) You don't need me to destabilise anything coz you have already done that to UK yourself by your constant refusal to acknowledge the legitimate outcome of the referendum and people will. You may twist and turn your words regarding legitimacy but deep down we all see that ... we see you coming.

Do you realise you are "blaming a foreigner" like the way you accused others of? 😆

😆 BTW it is not in our nature to intervene in others' affairs but I need to oblige if the Queen's govt asks me to ... just like the Queen's opposition party relying on others.

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Your popoulation figures, conditions of entry and ethnic/religious conflict references don't stack up Chewkw.

That is the official written information but we are in a different part of the world so the written information means nothing to us. The island of the Philippines and Indonesia is just about 3 hours away and a few minutes away ... people come and go.

Majority of the people you see at the city centre in North Borneo island are illegals into their 3rd generations now. But because of their religious claim they were all given "green cards". The locals still consider them illegals. Those on the opposite Islands (the beautiful ones) ... all illegals. It is also a well known fact that most rebels from other countries would hide in North Borneo when they are being pursued by their own govt.

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Hey your knowledge of the world is limited so you need to travel a bit to my part of the world. 😆

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But yes, Chewkw espouses a desire (an active choice even) to live in a Britain that (like it or not) is partly formed by its membership of the EU and at the same time wants to destroy that. And doesn't understand that he is likely to be a loser out of the racism Brexit has released.

Yaaa ... everyone can live in any part of the world if they can abide by their rules and fulfills all their requirements etc ... so your line of argument is not going to cut the mustard.

I think remainders keep playing the racism card is interesting because it really does not reflect the reality where I live in the North. So I encourage them to keep repeating that point by making it louder.

Actually, my father was invited to migrate and to come to live in UK by his Commanding Officer (Lord Hill) but he decided not to come here. He chose Borneo instead because it was very peaceful then. My father fought for the British army in Korean war and during the Malaya insurgency.

So there you go we have "ties" to the UK. 😆

We asked him why he joined the British Army his answer was " ... because I can ...".

Just like him my answer is " ... because I can ...".


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 2:58 pm
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Hey your knowledge of the world is limited

Agreed - isn't everyone's? I've lived in three countries across two continents, visited 44 of the 50 US states, passed through other places and continents, though just as a tourist, and do you know something? I'm still finding parts of the city grew up in and the city I live in now that I didn't know about.

Big place the world. For whatever reason Asia and Australia haven't appealed to me. I don't know why. Maybe next lifetime.

But you're missing the point on trying to destroy the very culture you chose (because you could) to live in - probably missed it deliberately. Foolish boy.


 
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Hey your knowledge of the world is limited

Agreed - isn't everyone's? I've lived in three countries across two continents, visited 44 of the 50 US states, passed through other places and continents, though just as a tourist, and do you know something? I'm still finding parts of the city grew up in and the city I live in now that I didn't know about.

Big place the world. For whatever reason Asia and Australia haven't appealed to me. I don't know why. Maybe next lifetime.

Try go native in other country.

Ya, I visited most of the EU countries many years ago too?

Other continents may not interest you because you are not interested in them so no big deal.

But you're missing the point on trying to destroy the very culture you chose (because you could) to live in - probably missed it deliberately. Foolish boy.
Not really. I am actually infusing you with new culture isn't that the argument presented by remainders? We are all a big family? Now you need to accept my culture and my views by seeing it as positive contribution.

Nobody can destroy a culture they just add new perspective to it that's all.


 
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Try go native in other country.

I have. Time limited though.


 
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I think it's all to convenient that chewky can play the racist card it's almost like it's the perfect foil.

Anyway, I'll just leave [url= http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/03/24/microsoft-created-artificial-intelligence-but-shes-a-racist-homophobic-trump-supporter/ ]This[/url].....


 
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Hang on..so our resident Brexit fanatic doesn't even come from these shores? Am I alone in thinking this is ironic?

In all fairness his pov is different and slightly valid, but wrong.
I was talking with an Iranian girl about it and she said that things would be more equal if everyone needs a visa. I still see that as an odd point of view as she will still need a visa post brexshit, as she does now. She, and chewkw have gained nothing, but millions of people have lost something.
I can see where they're coming from, but they're both wrong.


 
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I think it's all to convenient that chewky can play the racist card it's almost like it's the perfect foil.

Anyway, I'll just leave This.....


I have never played that card nor even mentioned about it.

[b]My view has always been that the EU bureaucratic system Must be dismantled because it is a parasitic system. [/b] Have you noticed how they first started and now evolving into something else?

That assumption (race card) is made by remainders by over-hyping, over exaggerating and finally convincing themselves to over interpret. There you go they have created the bubble themselves.


 
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Why the "Ya"? Your English is too good to think it's English. Then there's the use of the definite article. You master an unusually high number of British idioms but seem to deliberately leave out articles to sound foreign. You master the gerund form and use it in complex sentences but then use the infinitive instead in simple sentences where it wouldn't create ambiguity. I've taught English to a lot of people and haven't come across any who hang on to basis errors when they have such an advanced overall level, especially not when writing.


 
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I have never played that card nor even mentioned about it.

I mean, when your windup merchant trash elicits the response you so obviously crave then the person 'attacking' [i]you[/i] is a racist (you being a foreigner n ya'll). See b r's being banned post up thread .

As I said, a perfect foil.


 
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Why the "Ya"? Your English is too good to think it's English. Then there's the use of the definite article. You master an unusually high number of British idioms but seem to deliberately leave out articles to sound foreign. You master the gerund form and use it in complex sentences but then use the infinitive instead in simple sentences where it wouldn't create ambiguity. I've taught English to a lot of people and haven't come across any who hang on to basis errors when they have such an advanced overall level, especially not when writing.

We were taught simple English back in Borneo. The rest we learned ourselves. Yes, I have to learn them all by myself. I am NOT a native speaker if you must know. It would be foolish of me not to try to learn some local idioms etc if I were to integrate into this society and even if I refused to learn them they would have be drummed into me by my native speaker colleagues.

You are a native speaker teaching English?

We have non-native speaker with GCSE level English teaching us English in Borneo. You want to make that comparison?

You should not become a teacher as a profession with that attitude because you are unable to understand a non-native speaker learning English.

Have you taught foreign adult students before? Go assess their level of English now. Try it. 🙄

p/s: Do you know you have a highly prejudicial views?


 
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Yaaa ... everyone can live in any part of the world if they can abide by their rules and fulfills all their requirements etc

Indeed. And today you meet the requirements, but tomorrow you may not. Well done.


 
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Yaaa ... everyone can live in any part of the world if they can abide by their rules and fulfills all their requirements etc

Indeed. And today you meet the requirements, but tomorrow you may not. Well done.
Let tomorrow be the judge of tomorrow shall we?


 
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You live in Newcastle and have done for long enough to have lost any colonial habits.

I taught English as a foreign language to adults for over ten years. Those that can use things such as "the Queen's govt" (correctly using a capital, a possessive apostrophe, the definite article and an abbreviation) don't start sentences with "Majority" rather than "The majority".

Two possibilities:

You are deliberately sloppy with your English on this forum. You can but deliberately don't.

You are trying to sound foreign but are not.


 
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Hehe Edukator, you've turned gamekeeper now I see. Nice job btw.


 
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Chewk - paddedfred?


 
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You live in Newcastle and have done for long enough to have lost any colonial habits.

I taught English as a foreign language to adults for over ten years. Those that can use things such as "the Queen's govt" (correctly using a capital, a possessive apostrophe, the definite article and an abbreviation) don't start sentences with "Majority" rather than "The majority".

I will play along ... Please note I prefer to use "Ya" instead of "Yes" because Ya sounds natural to me.

Oh ya ... did I say I learned my English from Sesame Street in Borneo? 😛

My nephew and niece were both taught by native English speakers yet both have written slightly better English than I do and speak "half-Borneo" English. My mother and sister on the other hand can speak and write better English than I do.

Am I fine with that? Absolutely.

As for my written English I am perfectly comfortable with to survive. No big deal really. Others can accept or reject as they wish coz that just who I am. Me with my Borneo English.

Ya, my grammar is poor and the use of "The" never get that ... don't know that, never taught the distinction between "The" and "the" ...

I remember spending weeks trying to understand a band called "The the" or "The The" ... some tried to explain to me but gave up.


 
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Hehe Edukator, you've turned gamekeeper now I see. Nice job btw.

Ya, I know coz I noticed that instantly so funny. 😛
Such entertainment but you have to give it to him for trying though otherwise I would be bored. 😆

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Chewk - paddedfred?

Nahhh ... Zombie maggot more like as I like zombie maggot.

Edukator - Reformed Troll
Two possibilities:

You are deliberately sloppy with your English on this forum. You can but deliberately don't.

You are trying to sound foreign but are not.

No, the sloppy English is real. Sometimes I can write good English sometimes I switch back to Borneo English.

I am real foreigner i.e. non-British native, so trying to pretend who I am not and trying pretend to sound local would make me look like a reminder.

I am me. (sounds like advertisement)


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 4:34 pm
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Now you are randomly leaving out "it".

A capital letter for a proper noun. It takes two minutes for some(one) of your intellect to grasp that "The" is the name of a group in the same way as "Tate" is the name of a gallery and takes a capital. No-one capable of using "if I were to integrate" correctly (second conditional) takes weeks to grasp the use of capitals for proper nouns and fails.


 
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i'm still astounded by the revalation that Jamba might not even live in this country....no wonder hes so carefree about xxxxing it up...


 
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Now you are randomly leaving out "it".

A capital letter for a proper noun. I takes two minutes for some(one) of your intellect to grasp that "The" is the name of a group in the same way as "Tate" is the name of a gallery and takes a capital. No-one capable of using "if I were to integrate" correctly (second conditional) takes weeks to grasp the use of capitals for proper nouns and fails.

Old habit die hard. 😀

"No-one capable of using [b]"if I were to integrate"[/b] correctly (second conditional) takes weeks to grasp the use of capitals for proper nouns and fails."

Not sure what you mean there ... Explain.

I just wrote as if I was speaking to you. We were taught to use "if I were ..." and "I was ..." so very basic. Nobody explained why apart from making the sentence sounds smooth. [b]p/s: just double checked ... I see. I was merely describing the past so used past tense that's all to be consistent with the entire sentence.[/b]
This is the sentence.
pp/s: Ya, I have integrated well enough perhaps too well. You try to distort the meaning of that sentence? Yes, no? 😆

[b]I am NOT a native speaker if you must know. It would be foolish of me not to try to learn some local idioms etc if I were to integrate into this society and even if I refused to learn them they would have be drummed into me by my native speaker colleagues. [/b]

As for "The" we were taught that it was just "the" like being specific but when it was being repeated as the name of the band "The The" that confused me.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 4:50 pm
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Chewkw is a trustafarian who was at school with Zac.

He talks about Borneo because he went there to find himself on a gap year from 1999 to 2004.

He says "Ya" because, well, like, that's just how the trustas talk - ok ya? Or was that valley girls?

He claims to reside in Newcastle because it is as far from his home countries ancestral pile as he can imagine - but he doesn't like to go to the pub there because he isn't there.

He has had issues with drugs over the years that mean his memory isn't quite perfect. But he's OK now - ya?

Well, it might be true. We have no facts to go on, so I thought I'd make some up.

#PostTruthSTW


 
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Chewkw is a trustafarian who was at school with Zac.

He talks about Borneo because he went there to find himself on a gap year from 1999 to 2004.

He says "Ya" because, well, like, that's just how the trustas talk - ok ya? Or was that valley girls?

He claims to reside in Newcastle because it is as far from his home countries ancestral pile as he can imagine - but he doesn't like to go to the pub there because he isn't there.

He has had issues with drugs over the years that mean his memory isn't quite perfect. But he's OK now - ya?

Well, it might be true. We have no facts to go on, so I thought I'd make some up.

#PostTruthSTW


You are learning fast. 😆
Glad to see you becoming a bit relax now by comparison to some of your previous threads.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 5:08 pm
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No more or less relaxed.

As I've said previously, I'll be ok either way (actually I've done rather nicely since June 23 personally), it's other people I fear for.

Anyway I've come to the conclusion I don't need to worry about you because you are the figment of someone's imagination.

There are too many inconsistencies for you to be who you claim you are. so I'm just guessing who you really are.

One consistency - you don't want to pay your dues on here either judging by the missing 'P'. Just like with regard to Europe.


 
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So, Chewkw, you now know why I've engaged with you so little in the 490 pages of this thread. Your online persona doesn't add up. I've never for an instant doubted Chris is French. His pseudo tells anyone French instantly. His English is excellent, the rare mistakes he makes are exactly the same ones other native forum users make. Just now and then he writes something and in my head the French version pops up, but it's still written in correct English.

You, Chewkw, are taking the Micky with your use of English when you can clearly do better, and I feel that Micky taking pervades your contributions to this thread.


 
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You, Chewkw, are taking the Micky with your use of English when you can clearly do better, and I feel that Micky taking pervades your contributions to this thread.

And there was me thinking that it was the utter bollocks that he spouts. 😛


 
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Well thanks. I tend to think in French and translate which doesn't always work too well.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 5:22 pm
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Austrian far right concede defeat.


 
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Austrian far right concede defeat.

What was Jamba's prediction/desire on that one?


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 5:37 pm
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Indeed. Interesting.

The Austrians seem keener on the EU post June 23 I hear.


 
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Anyway I've come to the conclusion I don't need to worry about you because you are the figment of someone's imagination.

I am afraid it is no imagination as I am really your voice of truth and reason. :mrgreen:
There are too many inconsistencies for you to be who you claim you are. so I'm just guessing who you really are.
I am who I am. I don't make up stories about myself. However, my perspective in life might be different from yours.

One consistency - you don't want to pay your dues on here either judging by the missing 'P'. Just like with regard to Europe.
I am absolutely legal and legit and my view on EU bureaucratic system stands. i.e. they must be dismantled.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 5:42 pm
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So, Chewkw, you now know why I've engaged with you so little in the 490 pages of this thread. Your online persona doesn't add up. I've never for an instant doubted Chris is French. His pseudo tells anyone French instantly. His English is excellent, the rare mistakes he makes are exactly the same ones other native forum users make. Just now and then he writes something and in my head the French version pops up, but it's still written in correct English.

You, Chewkw, are taking the Micky with your use of English when you can clearly do better, and I feel that Micky taking pervades your contributions to this thread.

I don't know about others. However, they can be whoever they want to be online I can't be arsed to find out tbh. If people are nice they are but if people are not so be it coz that's who they are. Their identity.

There is nothing wrong with referencing or using others' views as it makes life easier with all the viewpoints concentrated in one location. Hence, I always arsed if there is something new in the line of argument? As for using others' views etc I can do that too but I can't be arsed and I see no big deal in this respect.

You cannot understand me because you have not encountered a person like me in this world. i.e. me. I am unique. There is not another one like me in this world. You cannot clone me. 😛

I have given you my answers short of giving your my bank details so that's that. No, not giving you my bank details. I never arsed anyone to reveal themselves in anyway or form apart from themselves volunteering the information to prove a point.

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And there was me thinking that it was the utter bollocks that he spouts.
So I am the voice of reasons for all of you remainders now. Mmwhhhhahhhaa ... 😆


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 5:56 pm
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Interesting result from the Austrian election.

Does that mean the losing side have to accept the result? hmmmm ... 😆

What you say? Yes, no? After all the margin might be low you know.


 
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Unexpected result in Austria from my perspective - see below

What was Jamba's prediction/desire on that one?

Prediction - too close to call, result not till mid week (posted that earlier)
Desire - up to the Austrians to decide. A Hofer win would have seen a likely general election in Austria which I think would have been good for UK. Quite a lot of moving parts though

Another example of inaccuracy of opinion polls which had the result very close.

The big one is Italy, result and if No will the PM actually resign (I am doubting it).


 
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I am really your voice of truth and reason

Anyone who says that usually isn't 🙂

I actually agree with a lot of what you say about the bureaucracy - but I judged that the benefits of the EU (trade, human rights, free movement, peace, etc) outweighed the bureaucratic negatives and voted remain.


 
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Does that mean the losing side have to accept the result? hmmmm ...

Let's see what the lies were in the campaign before deciding that one, eh?


 
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Unexpected result in Austria from my perspective - see below

Yes, they are all going to be very close.

I have a feeling that country with terrorist activities will vote very differently this time. e.g. France & Belgium.


 
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. I never [u]arsed[/u] anyone to reveal themselves in anyway or form apart from themselves volunteering the information to prove a point.

"Asked". You see my problem, your errors seem to be Micky taking. You're like a captainflashheart troll from 13 years ago.


 
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Let's see what the lies were in the campaign before deciding that one, eh?

Last debate: I think Hofer called the Green party guy a lier 25 times and the Green Party called Hofer a lier 7 times. That however is just a guide to how bad tempered it all was.


 
Posted : 04/12/2016 6:20 pm
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Interesting result from the Austrian election.

Does that mean the losing side have to accept the result? hmmmm ...

What you say? Yes, no? After all the margin might be low you know.

and in a few years there will be another election and in the meantime the opposition will oppose.


 
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