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^needs a string vest and a can of wifebeater..
Looks like he's about to do a massive Trump and make those flags flutter.
"Emmanuel - pull my finger"
Grandstanding prick.
I’d genuinely prefer Boris Becker to be our PM.
He's just as bankrupt.
Foot on the table, foot on the floor, flies open and todger out, dressed as Huggy Bear with a couple of bar girls draped over him...... None of it makes any difference. He is a chump. He is out of his depth and would get pwned over an issue he had a good chance with. As it is, he is dealing with an impossibility within a contradiction in a wrapping of farce.
Merkel basically waved him away with the truth. “It is your mess, tosspot, you sort it out”. Macron likewise.
Every week this nonsense drags on, Britain is further diminished. And to think it was spittle flecked gammony ‘patriots’ who wanted it most. It would be delicious if it was happening to someone else.
Yep that table scene that was basically 2 men arsing about but We got
Macho Macron tried to boss Boris Johnson... but the bumbling bulldog fought back
From the telegraph.
Gotta love reporting an er just making shit up.
Tbh I’m always expecting the Dambusters music when Bojos on.
The brilliant Facebook page 'The Thick of it quotes' used a favourite Malcolm Tuckerism to caption that photo:
"feet off the furniture you Oxbridge ****, you're not on a punt now!"
None of it makes any difference. He is a chump. He is out of his depth and would get pwned over an issue he had a good chance with. As it is, he is dealing with an impossibility within a contradiction in a wrapping of farce.
Not a chump , are you getting paid £270k for writing BS and are you living rent free and having your mortgage paid and a rather nice pension as well as 100k pocket money and free trips and accommodationt to France Plus a nice job on a board of some company when you leave 🙂
He knows exactly what’s happening and he’s happy enough to take the job, it’s a win for him however it goes down, 52% voted to go Fk themselves(and unfortunately the rest of us).
He's not even a poundland trump chump. Boris Piccaninny Watermelon Letterbox Cake Bumboys Vampires Haircut Inconclusive-Cocaine-Event Wall-Spaffer Johnston
So far out of his depth I almost start to feel sorry for him,almost.
The circus rolls on but nothing has changed. As always the choices are: Withdrawal Agreement, no deal, revoke.
Withdrawal Agreement is still dead in the water. Brexiters who don't actually want Brexit still won't vote for it. Opposition parties are still playing People's Front of Judea. Government is treating this as an election campaign.
So sad to see this country slowly disappear up it's own arsehole.
From the telegraph.
and from the Daily Fail it's presented as
Brexit Boost for Boris
Tally ho chaps, get the Spitfires out, he's only gone and given old Fritzy the what for.
That "footstool" photo says everything about how out of his depth he is. Macron is smart enough to know that BJ is dumb enough to put his foot on that table and look like a chump. never mind the story the picture is what people will remember.
Secretary of State for NI @JulianSmithUK says he’s confident @BorisJohnson can get a #Brexit deal but doesn’t want to provide a running commentary on what alternative arrangements could be put in place for the border
Translate. I haven't got a clue what these alternative arrangments are
Lucas:
A no-deal Brexit would be a disaster for this country and parliament must prevent it in any way possible. Jeremy Corbyn has done the right thing by reaching out to colleagues and I welcome the fact that all the opposition parties in the House of Commons have accepted his invitation for discussions. I would urge all MPs who have been approached and who recognise the danger this country faces to join these talks with an open mind. We all need to put our country’s future first.
That means either pursuing legislative measures or a vote of no confidence in a Boris Johnson government which is showing every intention of driving this country off the edge of a cliff, and replacing it with a caretaker government which is committed to giving the people the right to decide on the Brexit deal.
I am prepared to support Jeremy Corbyn as leader of this caretaker government, as should any MP who wants to stop a no-deal Brexit. But if he cannot gain the support of a sufficient number of colleagues across parliament, I hope he will be prepared to back another MP from his party, or another, who can. I will ask him again to make his position clear in our discussions next week.
I will also continue to make the case that we need a people’s vote before a general election, as the only certain way of ensuring that the British people have the final say on Brexit.
Now why couldn't Swinson strike a similar tone? That really shows just how divorced from reality and how stupid Swinson is.
Make your point, don't put peoples backs up. leave all doors open
If Corbyn and Labour really want to stop No Deal why don’t they just support the Maybot’s deal?
Surely with Labour supporting it there would be enough to get it through parliament?
Even if they get in power are they really going to negotiate something better?
BJ is dumb enough to put his foot on that table and look like a chump
Nail, head.
If it smells like a chump, walks like a chump and quacks like a chump, it's Boris.
Even if they get in power are they really going to negotiate something better?
Of course they won't, but, the deal-that-is-0.01%-different might just have Labour written on it.
Judging from the press today, even if Boris found a herd of unicorns willing to invisibly patrol the Irish border and make the backstop redundant; the ERG still wont vote the deal through. Why would they when the no-deal they desire is so close to being acheived. Hopefully that will focus anti-no-dealers minds, the arguemnt BJ could still get a deal is void if there are enoguh hardliners who will oppose it.
European Union my ar**. It's a French/German carve up.
Go on then, tell me he's off to Malta or Latvia next.
Other EU nations aren't even allowed to provide government funding to get electric
car manufacturing industries off the ground, which leaves it to those
countries with an existing auto industry in place. That'd be Germany and France then.
That's incorrect, thebees, as this approval for state aid for an electric car battery plant in Poland proves.
https://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-19-744_en.htm
And the UK government is providing funding for Land Rover's electric car project:
That’d be Germany and France then.
Or the new LR plants in Slovakia.
And Spain, Czech Republic, Belgium, Italy, Poland, Romania, Sweden, Portugal (shall I carry on?).
Your facts won’t counteract his “feelings” … but it’s so nice that people still try. Oh, and if Johnson thinks that when it comes to a post Brexit trade deal he can ignore the smaller nations in the EU… reality will bite him in the arse.
He did specify electric cars, Matt. Sunderland is where the Leaf battery is put together I believe and the car assembled, that plant has benefitted from huge subsidies while Britain has been in the EU:
http://www.corporate-welfare-watch.org.uk/wp/2017/09/26/nissan-nearly-1bn-corporate-welfare/
Lying bastard - I'm sure he said this would be easy...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49445607
Who the hell votes for this shower?
I heard him say in an interview in the run up to him being voted in as PM that we just needed to 'get stuff done' for a brexit deal. Perhaps the stuff is not as easy as he thought.
Your facts won’t counteract his “feelings” … but it’s so nice that people still try. Oh, and if Johnson thinks that when it comes to a post Brexit trade deal he can ignore the smaller nations in the EU… reality will bite him in the arse.
It is kind of sweet that people still try, but the result will always be the same if anyone tries to construct a logical argument for the benefits of something that is:
a) Illogical
b) Of no benefit to anyone but a cynical and tiny clique.
It was a bit half-arsed in any case, and got immediately and conclusively refuted with facts.
Who the hell votes for this shower?
People who are desperate for someone to tell them they haven't made a terrible mistake.
Even if it's not true.
I haven't read the Nissan report, but you also have to balance this against the economic contribution that a higher-skill, more productive, higher-earning workforce brings, plus the local economy and supply-chain impacts. How much would the welfare and social impacts costs be for Sunderland without Nissan? I know for a fact that most Government Departments don't cost this because it's other departments responsibilities - it's firmly in the 'too difficult / too hard' box. I used to sit in meeting with DTI/BIS Officials asking this question and they'd just ignore it because it wasn't their responsibility.
An alternative is the likes of all the big supermarkets and much of our retail, hospitality and social care sectors are simply subsidised by paying minimum wage, zero hours contracts supported by welfare / benefits? Where do you draw the line?
Land Rover owned by Tata.
Nissan Leaf is Japanese owned.
I'm talking about state sponsoring of our very own electric car industry not making
batteries for another nations established industry.
But yeah, carry on with your half-a**ed fact checking and mutual back slapping if it makes you feel better.
I'm not against the government investment in Nissan, dovebiker, I was just demostrating that brexiter thebees was talking rubbish about the EU blocking government investment, see previous page, and directly above.
I’m talking about state sponsoring of our very own electric car industry not making
batteries for another nations established industry.
British batteries for British cars eh? Naturally.
Dang it. Why don’t Rolls Royce build complete aeroplanes too? Then we wouldn’t have to build our lovely engines just to have them put in a dirty forrin plane.
We might be on to something here......
Handily, if a no deal occurs, in the immediate term we are going to have to get a lot better at producing british goods for british people. Things like fruit, for example. This could be just the kickstart we need to rediscover our buccaneering spirit and stick it to the world.
This, of course, is the real trick of the populists. People don’t like the fact that the world is too complicated and interconnected to be fully understandable by anyone. So along come the populists and tell everyone it IS simple. You just have to believe. Just drink the Kool Aid.
I’m talking about state sponsoring of our very own electric car industry not making batteries for another nations established industry.
Hey, @thebees, which company did you have in mind? Singaporean Dyson? Morgan have canned their EV, haven’t they? Who does that leave? And would these entirely British electric cars be exported, or would we just keep them to ourselves… like some Brexit Electric Trabant?
I'm not sure what thebees is saying - are the EU blocking state aid of ecar manufacturing or something ?
Cox that's bollox
The European battery intiative is the EU (belatedly) getting on the bandwagon
I believe Sweden is the favourite for the first joint battery gigaplant
https://ec.europa.eu/growth/industry/policy/european-battery-alliance_en
Anyway 27 days left bojo , where's the plan ?
He's had 3 years so he's obviously got it all worked out then....
I’m not actually against
British batteries for British cars
But Bit of a problem when the rest of the world owns all the British iconic car brands.
Rolls-Royce,Mini,Land Rover and Aston Martin gasp all owned by foreigners , bit late to be banging the patriotic drum.
where’s the plan ?
And that is the same question that has been being asked for three years. Problem is (and always has been) that to admit enough for people to be able to plan effectively is so toxic that it would be political suicide, even in these stupid times.
Oh, but it is never too late to bang the patriotic drum for some people.
Brexit is self-inflicted damage, always has been and always will be.
Of course the government has a plan… it just has to keep it secret, otherwise they’d be showing their rEU opponents what their hand is… etc. Wink wink. And businesses, universities, councils, hospitals, ports, farmers, and families need to just crack on and prepare… government has published all those “you may have to” bits of advice on their website… so there you go, in the absence of a published plan, just prepare for all eventualities and everything will work out just fine. Honest.
^^^^
I suppose it is the international politics equivalent of the spiv.... there’s a watch in every box, you can trust me cor blimey.
Hardly a good way to run a country, though.
I like the British batteries for British cars idea, particularly if we come up with a totally unique charging adaptor such them foreigners can't come over and steal our leccy! Of course the problem with making stuff like batteries is that whilst the pound is taking a hammering on the change rate, all the materials will need to be imported and tariffs added to all exports...but of course that's all part of the great plan...
There may also be issues if the leccie to recharge is from those French EDF plants and distributed by Hong Kong owned networks, probably no chance of our China owned windfarms being tarrif free either...
We can make British batteries from British potatoes.
https://twitter.com/tomtugendhat/status/1165382238395162624?s=21
Everyone who said something along the lines of “no, I cannot point you to a plan for Northern Ireland in the event we vote to Leave, but it’s not an issue really, just vote Leave”… should be barred from public office of any kind, never mind allowed to be in the government.
Johnson also stating if its no deal he is not going to pay the money owed. Really? That will do so much to help us getting any treaties with anyone won't it. EU will certainly not do any sort of trade deal until its paid.
Bye bye city of london financial centre.
Nah he said he's not going to pay all of it, but the 39B was the amount due to cover funding from the march leave date, so 7 months of eu membership later we've already paid some of it and the balance owing on brexit day is reduced. Hence BoJo can claim he socks one to the EU by not paying the full 39B.
It is staggering how stupid the cabinet is (or at least how stupid they think the public is). I still maintain that Labour are only still fielding Corbyn because they do not want to win an election at this point. The ones that are running Labour obviously want the tories to completely own the mess from start to finish.