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Oh come on DrJ. Labour are going to have a disastrous night tonight, and as he’s done before, at every turn, he’ll double down on his voter-jettisoning pro-Brexit nonsense
Len McClusky has been busy doing the warm up act all day today
He’s the mirror image of May. Incompetent, useless and surrounded by a small cabal of ideologues who’s opinion he listens to exclusively, ignoring everyone else, and reality
why aren’t the results available immediately at 10pm???
Because counting didnt start till now. I assume to prevent results leaking out and potentially impacting on the decisions of those still to vote.
given that we voted on Thursday, why aren’t the results available immediately at 10pm
Because some EU countries don't vote until today, so everyone gets to see the results all at the same time
Woohoo!
Brexit party won (2 - 1) in the North East with 39% votes! 🕺💃
240K plus votes.
More than double the votes of 2nd place Labour.
he’ll double down on his voter-jettisoning pro-Brexit nonsense
I bow down to your experience with doubling down on nonsense. Binners meaningful prediction 1020
A long night but so far a good night for the Brexit Now Party, but not for leave overall (on votes, not MEPs, which is what would count in a third referendum).
But a long night ahead.
So far…
Labour running 5th in Scotland.
Behind Plaid Cymru in Wales.
5th in East of England.
Behind LibDems in London.
Give the Labour leader's director of strategy and communications a gold star.
Interesting that Brexit Party vote is big, but less than drop in votes for UKIP & Tories from 2014. So far anyway.
It looks CHUK will be defecting to Lib Dem ... 🤔
CHUK are the kentuky mc burger King of political parties.
CHUK are the kentuky mc burger King of political parties.
True true 🤔 🤣
I recommend the killfile if you wish to avoid rerunning the same conversations as we had three years ago. Also effective with 99% of non-sequiturs.
Labour 5th in South West.
Brexit Party, again, basically had UKIP share of the vote, plus less than half of the vote share lost by the Tories. No Labour or Conservative MEPs returned at all.
Greens don't look to have done as well in Scotland as seemed possible... I optimistically voted for them as it seemed plausible they'd get one seat, but the SNP were very unlikely to pull 4, bit disappointed.
Still, enjoying all the comments that the current SNP position of 50% of the seats and 39% of the vote is a disaster, while the brexit party's 15% and one is a triumph.
Looks like Nige has scored his desired outcome, he's killing UKIP and hoovering up a reasonable chunk of protest votes from Lab/Con leavers...
Christ knows what that actually achieves but there you go.
The only thing I'm taking comfort from is the level of LD and Green support is that a 2nd ref would still be a nail biter for Leaverists...
That turnout figure and 37% on BBC here is that really only 37%* of the countries voters bothered to vote on this? *me included.
My mind boggles that amongst our MEPs will be Ann Widdecombe and Annunziata Rees-Mogg.
Looks like Nige has scored his desired outcome, he’s killing UKIP and hoovering up a reasonable chunk of protest votes from Lab/Con leavers…
Not enough but promising.
The only thing I’m taking comfort from is the level of LD and Green support is that a 2nd ref would still be a nail biter for Leaverists…
The main parties might have to join the "beauty contest" while Brexit party will be the judge ... 🤣
Now dance! (not you but the main parties)
That turnout figure and 37% on BBC here is that really only 37%* of the countries voters bothered to vote on this? *me included.
Yes, very low in my view ...
As much as it pains me that The brexit party have done so well, I am encouraged that if you add up the remain parties, they seem to be winning.
Re the turnout, I’m all for mandatory voting. The biggest issue since the war, and almost 2/3s of people can’t be arsed. That’s disgusting.
As much as it pains me that The brexit party have done so well, I am encouraged that if you add up the remain parties, they seem to be winning.
Add up all the Referendum votes see what you get. 🤣
I’ll just have to share this one with you from one of the hardcore Lexiteer Corbyn nutters I know when I told him I’d voted Green.
These guys sound interesting (not in a good way BTW)! Back in the day I had a lot of fun arguing against old left Stalinists. Maybe we should organise a night in the pub? 🙂
The main parties might have to join the “beauty contest” while Brexit party will be the judge …
You reckon?
This ain't a GE, or a 2nd ref.
It's a supposedly "meaningless" vote where the Gammons have turned out in force to send some sort of message, still not sure what it is though.
So far… The Brexit Party have managed to wipe out UKIP.
🤷🏻♂️
Big surge for LibDems, Greens and SNP, while many Labour and Conservative MEPs get the retirements that their parties promised them.
Was gonna reply but popup.
Was gonna reply but popup
What was that then?
Re the turnout, I’m all for mandatory voting. The biggest issue since the war, and almost 2/3s of people can’t be arsed. That’s disgusting
I agree with you, we should have mandatory voting, but the turnout is also an indicator of the general Brexit malaise/fatigue the country is now suffering from...
Labour 5th in South East.
7% of the vote.
the turnout is also an indicator of the general Brexit malaise/fatigue the country is now suffering from…
Or it's just entirely normal for a non-Westminster election (sadly).
Oh, Farage gets a televised speech … no other newly elected MEP has been given that chance so far. Great.
You reckon?
This ain’t a GE, or a 2nd ref.
It’s a supposedly “meaningless” vote where the Gammons have turned out in force to send some sort of message, still not sure what it is though.
Oh yes ... come the next GE they will be trying to attract voters and they cannot afford to alienate a large number of voters if they want to be in power. 😀
Lib Dem will be the 2nd largest party in the next GE.
The question is which of the two main parties can dance well. Dance!
The Brexit Party have managed to wipe out UKIP.
And a lot of others. Just think about the fact that a party that didn't exist a couple of months ago have now won a national election. I know you guys want to look at the lib dems and greens as a sign of hope that there is a majority for remain, but sadly these results don't show that.
I enjoyed the laugh that the number of votes Stephen Yaxley Lennon received got...
And a lot of others. Just think about the fact that a party that didn’t exist a couple of months ago have now won a national election. I know you guys want to look at the lib dems and greens as a sign of hope that there is a majority for remain, but sadly these results don’t show that.
I'm worried about what they do show. And confused. Still looks to be like a motivated section of those eligible to vote (I despair at a 37% turnout) just want to see everything burn, but not for the right reasons (IMO).
Seems we are increasingly beholden to a minority who are not voting for a better future and not voting against the mistakes of the past, but seem to be just shouting at the moon.
What weirds me out the most is that a fair few of them are potentially my generation (I'm 50 next year) and I recognise absolutely nothing of their mindset. Happy to be out of step with my peers in this case.
The Brexit party vote share is just the UKIP share loss, plus a fair chunk of the Tory share loss. Farage of 2019 ousting Farage of 2014.
Oh yes … come the next GE they will be trying to attract voters and they cannot afford to alienate a large number of voters if they want to be in power. 😀
Lib Dem will be the 2nd largest party in the next GE.
The question is which of the two main parties can dance well. Dance!
Pure fantasy...
The Brexit party vote for this EU election is made up roughly 2/3rds of the existing kippers, and 1/3rd of con/lab protest voters.
I'm not sure a single issue party that's only weeks old, and has zero policies beyond Brexit (and doesn't seem to have particularly detailed policies or plans of their one key issue) is going to clean up at a GE.
I’m not sure a single issue party that’s only weeks old, and has zero policies beyond Brexit (and doesn’t seem to have particularly detailed policies or plans of their one key issue) is going to clean up at a GE.
They will release their policies later nearer to the GE.
Now is about Brexit.
I’m not sure a single issue party that’s only weeks old, and has zero policies beyond Brexit (and doesn’t seem to have particularly detailed policies or plans of their one key issue) is going to clean up at a GE.
They won't win a GE. But they could be the balance of power or even the official opposition. Imagine Farage pulling the strings behind a Boris govt, or being one election away from being PM!
They won’t win a GE. But they could be the balance of power or even the official opposition. Imagine Farage pulling the strings behind a Boris govt, or being one election away from being PM!
Even JC will dance beautifully so long as Labour will get into power.
Lib Dem will sleep with anyone that offers them power. Imagine that! Eeeuuuwww ...🤢
Even JC will dance beautifully so long as Labour will get into power.
WTF are you talking about?
A personally upsetting night for me.
Living in an apparent Brexit heartland. 50 years old and very aware that much of my generation is desperate for the UK to leave the EU. At any cost. NHS.... the younger generations hopes for the future.... Just let it all burn. All so we can say we left the EU to "take back control".
A sizable minority, well motivated to vote is pulling the UK down the rabbit hole.
I'm as annoyed at the ** that don't vote as much as those that vote for Brexit.
As some have said on here, the country might have to suffer a lot of pain and leave the EU in order to kill the fantasy of Brexit once and for all. What appallingly sad times we live in.
My God, how did we get here?
Oh yes, to make sure the Tory party didn't haemorrhage power to Farage.
The irony is f*** sickening.
They will release their policies later nearer to the GE.
Now is about Brexit.
There are no policies, nor will there be any... They're the "Brexit party" FFS the clue is very much in their name.
Did you watch Widcombe's rambling discussion with Hugh earlier? She thinks the negotiations will be reopened so the Gammons can shout their demands at Barnier...
We're headed for a no deal crash out, led by Boris while Nige eggs him on and the possibility of a "confirmatory vote" gets shouted down for being "undemocratic" and ignoring the "will of the people"... Once Brexit is done Nige has no GE powerbroking potential, the Gammons will revert back to the tories for the GE, especially if Boris no deals it...
whoever is picking up farages' bill is not going to stop at this.
thank **** I have three citizenships.
There are no policies, nor will there be any… They’re the “Brexit party” FFS the clue is very much in their name.
No need to hurry as there will be plenty of time for GE preparation.
Why worry about Brexit Party having a one liner slogan?
The main parties should be worrying about themselves with the mess they created.
Once Brexit is done Nige has no GE powerbroking potential, the Gammons will revert back to the tories for the GE, especially if Boris no deals it…
If Boris wants to become a PM for a while then he better Brexit immediately.
Get UK out of EU bureaucratic system if they want to have peace of mind.
Get us out quick so Nigel can enjoy a pint at the pub.
thank **** I have three citizenships.
Crikey ... how did you get 3 citizenships?
Crikey … how did you get 3 citizenships?
UK, Ireland and Australian. Filled in a lot of forms.
UK, Ireland and Australian. Filled in a lot of forms.
👍 👍 👍
Add together the LD, green and ChgUk votes and it comes out slightly ahead of Brexit and UKIP.
UK: 85% counted.
Remain parties: 40.4%
Hard Brexit parties: 34.9%
Conservatives/Labour: 23.2%
#EP2019 #Brexit #EuropeanElections2019 #EUelections2019 https://t.co/pF4MG8SSRM
Depends on how you look at it. If you count Lab and Con as Leave parties then that's a fairly solid pro-leave vote.
Meanwhile, in Scotland:
Pro-remain parties (SNP, LibDems, Green, Change) - 62%
Pro-leave parties (Brexit Party, Labour, Conservative, UKIP) - 37.5%
So almost no change from the referendum result.