https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47487320
Brexit: One more push needed to get deal through, says May
It does make it sound like trying to get through some really bad constipation, what follows isn't going to be very nice.
Bloody EU - at it again.
https://news.sky.com/story/barnier-eu-would-let-britain-leave-customs-union-after-brexit-11658965
Luckily the DUP have seen through this blatant attempt to be reasonable.
But she can’t do that without freedom of movement, which is one of her red lines
I think freedom of movement would be acceptable to Brexiteers now considering that over the past couple of years EU immigration has tanked, presumably because EU citizens have more sense than to come here. Meanwhile I wonder if they've noticed the increase in non-EU immigration to take up the slack.
A new opinion poll suggests that voters in Northern Ireland are deeply dissatisfied with the British government’s handling of Brexit.
That's rather like the rest of the UK isn't it?
Meanwhile,
https://www.thejournal.ie/michel-barnier-brexit-deal-4531460-Mar2019
THE EU’S CHIEF Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier has offered the UK a new Brexit deal which would see it leave the customs union but keep parts of the backstop which would ensure there is no hard border on the island of Ireland.
In a number of tweets sent this afternoon, Barnier said the UK has been offered a way to exit the “single customs territory unilaterally, while the other elements of the backstop must be maintained to avoid a hard border”.
An offer we have already rejected, no?
Hmmm - stay classy...
An offer we have already rejected, no?
"We" accepted it, but then May spoke to the DUP on the phone… so we then asked for the customs area part of it to be changed to whole UK… which the EU accepted… and then May voted with most of her party to reject that… so we're back to the EU proposing a backstop for NI only… if "we" accept that… May needs to get back on the phone to the DUP…
Sorry for the link to this twits page but I haven't seen anyone else report this.
well sorry about that, but it was tricky reading the posts a single line at a time round the edge of an ad for China airlines.
Using an android phone on opera I don't get any ads even though I still don't have a P.
Sorry for the link to this twits page but I haven’t seen anyone else report this.
it's a pretty good summary
That Aron banks story is quite depressing, though surprising to none, you'd think that the lexiters might be extra ashamed if he was also illegally funding Labour Leave.
Maybe even time for a bit of soul searching......
In the froth of the last few weeks, the hapless antics of the tiny remaining cabal of diehard anti-Brexit lawyers have almost been overlooked, as yet another legal challenge to Brexit was crushed. Jessica Simor QC was judged wrong on more or less every argument she tried to make as she went down in flames Jolyon-style…
it’s a pretty good summary
Hmm great start, really concentrating on the facts not a narrative from the outset, in fact a shining example on impartial journalism. The selective quoting is only outdone by some people on here 😉
The selective quoting is only outdone by some people on here
The quoting gives a pretty good idea of how dismissive the judge was about the arguments put forward. I have read alot of judgements over the years and I struggle to think of one which was quite as dismissive of a party's arguments
Well... who’d have thunk it?
Labour push for new referendum put on hold
When the catastrophe of the No Deal we’re headed for becomes a reality, Jeremy ****ing Corbyn will be as culpable for it as Boris Johnson. The man is a liar, a coward and a fraud! And more importantly a full-blooded Brexiteer!
Quite possibly but the vitriol is mostly off putting and helps remove credibility from it. Anyway what each of these cases going back to the original one about triggering article 50 without parliament has shown is quite how bad the whole process has been, how the government has tried to act outside the powers it has. How those involved with leave ignored rules, laws and decency. There are still serious questions about the sources of some of the cash.
You got all angry for nothing.
Writing in the Guardian, the former Labour communications chief Alastair Campbell, who is involved with the People’s Vote campaign, said that Tuesday “must belong to Mrs May being made to see her deal will not – and cannot – fly” and called on the backbenchers to hold fire.
You need to see the whole picture not just the headlines.
The man is a liar, a coward and a fraud! And more importantly a full-blooded Brexiteer!
Glad you waited to see how it actually unfolded before you pass any sort of judgement.
Anyone seen one of these ads yet?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/09/obscure-no-deal-brexit-group-is-uks-biggest-political-spender-on-facebook
ah back in the day Dave has HIGNFY from 2014 when Carsewll defected to UKIP and this whole thing kicked off. Oh the good old days
So some insights from the current polling you gov is doing, questions are going on about what do you think honouring the brexit vote is (and sorry for some one of the answers is leaving on Mays deal or no deal is not honouring it) it's the last bit of sounding to show where opinion is before the next vote. We can't have another one after this.
I'd expect these results to be out on Tuesday
Well… who’d have thunk it?
Labour push for new referendum put on hold
When the catastrophe of the No Deal we’re headed for becomes a reality, Jeremy ****ing Corbyn will be as culpable for it as Boris Johnson. The man is a liar, a coward and a fraud! And more importantly a full-blooded Brexiteer!
He's following the timing strategy proposed by Remain campaigners, you steaming nit.
This is quite a telling quote from Davis:
"If we stay on our current trajectory, we will go into the next election with the government having delivered none of the benefits of Brexit, with the country having been reduced to a rule taker from Brussels, " he wrote in a letter to Conservative MPs.
"This will not be a technicality. It will be very obvious to the electorate. The electoral consequences could be dire."
Nothing about the good of the country - but plenty of concern about his odious party's electoral chances.
Shame the master negotiator didn't do a better job.
Anyone seen one of these ads yet?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/09/obscure-no-deal-brexit-group-is-uks-biggest-political-spender-on-facebook/blockquote >Nah but this is the serious issue with micro marketing on Facebook that you really don’t know what shites being told to people. Fine with flogging Maseratis but really bad for political influencing.
Still £340k pumped in to spread a message does make you think... way cheaper than launching a missile.
There was also the mystery £400k donation channelled through the DUP to the leave campaign.
This turned out to be the CRC a group run by a Scottish Conservative who failed to get elected. Steve Barclay also received £6500 from them on behalf of the ERG.
"As chair of the European Research Group (ERG), I accepted £6,500 from the Constitutional Research Council to fund hospitality for ERG members and their staff at an event on December 19, 2016."
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1104433666246262785.html
From a series of tweets about how Arron Banks and Leave was funded.
Awww leave old Arron alone, us Bristol peeps is always having meeetings with Russian ambassadors.
Although the fact that he allegedly ran a division for Norwich Union although they don’t seem to remember this would start ringing alarm bells and tbh once you start registering a multitude of companies without being able to spell your name correctly twice in a row 🙂
will the price of tinfoil go up?
asking for a friend
What if everyone who now thinks Brexit is a really , really bad idea decided not to pay their council tax standing order on the 1st april.
20 million ish people , £100pcm average would leave a massive hole in local government finances and if enough people actually carried it out nothing could be done for weeks ,in trms of sending letters, starting the fines process.
Do it for 2 months and it really would hit the local councils wage and pension bill hard.
Problem is million of people work for local councils and would be leant on
Uber rich tories in government would not be directly affectd
alot would bottle it and not go through with it
But it could be a way to stop the madness but hard to instigate enough momentum to get it going
You go first.;-)
brexit supporters should be forced to wear a badge declaring their will.
they could be easily identified and sent to the back of the queue for food rations, medical appointments, customs etc..
dont submit a tax return, seeing as they are not representing you why pay the government anything?
and all the EU nationals currently providing services to them should just let them help themselves seeing as they are in control now.. they can clean their own car/house, provide thier own medical care, nanny their own kids, be their own minicab driver, build their own extension and never get served in restaurants..
brexit supporters should be forced to wear a badge declaring their will.
they could be easily identified and sent to the back of the queue for food rations, medical appointments, customs etc..dont submit a tax return, seeing as they are not representing you why pay the government anything?
and all the EU nationals currently providing services to them should just let them help themselves seeing as they are in control now.. they can clean their own car/house, provide thier own medical care, nanny their own kids, be their own minicab driver, build their own extension and never get served in restaurants..
democracy innit
Obviously we can't say that people who voted for Brexit are stupid, but ....
I heard Marcus Fysh MP on Radio4 and nick Robinson made him look like a complete imbicile, and he wasn't even being tough on him. He was simply contradicting himself!
And yesterday Esther Mcvey tweeted this
https://twitter.com/EstherMcVey1/status/1104830370099458048?s=19
The reputation of the Tories will surely take decades to recover !?
There's 2 explanations, the brexiteers are wilfully deceiving the public or just light-bendingly stupid.
Dead link, care to enlighten us?
There’s 2 explanations, the brexiteers are wilfully deceiving the public or just light-bendingly stupid.
It's a mixture. Some of them are indeed light bendingly stupid, Chris Grayling and Karen Bradley being a perfect example. Others are being willfully deceptive like JRM and Boris. Some fall in the middle, they think they are playing clever strategies but end up looking like fools, see Dominic Raab and his comments on Dover.
This is obviously not an exhaustive list!
These people aren’t necessarily thick, but they do seem to be wilfully ignorant. Karen Bradley being the most glaring example of this
The BBC and the Guardian both reporting that May is planning to pull this weeks votes.
Absolutely unbelievable
Cliff edge, here we come...
Dead link, care to enlighten us?
Treaty of Rome lies, again. All the replies were simple corrections/rebuttals… so she deleted it.
Anyway, good to see, at this late stage, that all the Brexit pushing politicans are coming forward with real, practical, implementable and deliverable measures we can put in place. Over the last three years they have made it clear that they're so on top of all the issues, that we are wise to push ahead with their, er, policies, that were narrowly voted for, years ago.
This from politico re May having lost the trust of her own cabinet.
Erm, about those Cabinet supporters. There are now only two of them left, a source tells the Telegraph, which is not a great result given there are 20-odd faces around the table. Playbook’s money is on them being Karen Bradley and Chris Grayling, given it’s hard to imagine either of them ever having a job in government again once May is out the door. “Everyone else has lost faith in her ability to lead,” the Telegraph’s source says.
...and yet there she still is?
May has apparently issued assurances that the vote will definitely be going ahead tomorrow. Going off her previous assurances its probably safe to assume that it definitely won't be going ahead tomorrow then.
I'm sure it will be put back yet again, as the can is kicked right until theres no road left to kick it down
Tick tock...
Dead link, care to enlighten us?
Vinegar tits Mcvey lies yet again, then doubles down on whataboutery.
Just the usual lies...lies and more lies we expect from our elected politicians
nearly £1tn moved out of the city
and Dublin doing very well out of that!
https://newfinancial.org/the-impact-of-brexit-on-the-city/
nearly £1tn moved out of the city
I think you will find nobody has moved, nothing has moved, well only the idiots who don't want to make more money, they know there will be no impact though so nothing has left......
The wit and wisdom of Esther McVey
has anyone seen the comment on that article? 😆
With all the banking activity happening elsewhere, how much tax take will the UK lose?
I'm betting it makes the "magic bus NHS money" figure look like walking-around-change.
how much tax take will the UK lose?
I saw the figure of 1% of the total take quoted. Could have paid for quite a few hospitals, I'd bet.
