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That's OK. All Brexiters love to be out in the fields.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/01/boris-johnson-appears-to-mock-pm-with-field-of-wheat-run


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 11:50 am
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so thats who is going to replace all those agricultural workers post brexit!


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 11:54 am
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so thats who is going to replace all those agricultural workers post brexit!

Damn. Finally there is a good argument for Brexit. The blond buffoon will be too busy picking sprouts to screw up the country further.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 12:12 pm
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who is going to replace all those agricultural workers post brexit!

It's not difficult to find estates full of ****less lazy bastards who refuse to work in this country, there's hardly a shortage is there.

If anything good will come of this at least it should be to force these people to work as opposed to moaning about how there's no one to do low payed unskilled jobs.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 12:15 pm
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It’s not difficult to find estates full of ****less lazy bastards who refuse to work in this country, there’s hardly a shortage is there.

No but how many of them are in (low cost) commutable range of the fruit & veg farms that need people to do the work?  You gonna collect them all in a bus each morning?  Or maybe we could build some places for them to stay while they are employed... some sort of house to work in... what could that be called in the brave new world?


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 12:19 pm
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Ah the Grapes of Wrath.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 12:24 pm
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May on the radio this morning crowing about ending freedom of movement. MY freedom of movement.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 12:28 pm
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It’s not difficult to find estates full of ****less lazy bastards who refuse to work in this country, there’s hardly a shortage is there.

Ahh… Great Britain… where we have low levels of unemployment (unlike those countries "damaged" by being in the Euro) but we still get to blame our ills on the tiny number of people of working age not working.

Brexit supporters I know also get very ranty about people "living of the state". It's the same mindset. Scapegoating… while supporting policies that will probably damage all our lives.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 12:30 pm
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You gonna collect them all in a bus each morning?

Why is there a difference between where the UK based  EU workers live and the bone idle that can't get on a bus ,

Or os this before they need to excuse every other tiny reason they won't work but others will.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 12:32 pm
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MY freedom of movement.

https://twitter.com/otmoormr/status/1047062143290486784?s=21


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 12:32 pm
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Ahh… Great Britain… where we have low levels of unemployment (unlike those countries “damaged” by being in the Euro) but we still get to blame our ills on the tiny number of people of working age not working.

Brexit supporters I know also get very ranty about people “living of the state”. It’s the same mindset. Scapegoating… while supporting policies that will probably damage all our lives.

And your the type that's straight on here whining about how your sheds been robbed by a jobless scrote on when a drug dealer is selling to your kid outside the school gates.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 12:37 pm
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Why is there a difference between where the UK based EU workers live and the bone idle that can’t get on a bus ,

Well the resident unemplyed population largely lives in an area due to accidents of history.  They were born there, schooled there and have stayed there.  A migrant population (by defintion) will always be more flexible about where it can work.  Social mobility is a complex issue to solve, but it's not the EUs fault that successive governments haven't done a better job of it.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 12:46 pm
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And your the type that’s straight on here whining about how your sheds been robbed by a jobless scrote on when a drug dealer is selling to your kid outside the school gates.

I'm looking forward to our crime free future, post Brexit.

To be less facetious, I'll accept a better educated populous, as a result/payoff of Brexit, if you have a plan to achieve that.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 12:48 pm
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Within 2 hours they will all have a doc certificate with bad back.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 12:59 pm
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Scapegoating…

A tool much beloved of fascists.

To be less facetious, I’ll accept a better educated populous, as a result/payoff of Brexit, if you have a plan to achieve that

Better educated, highly skilled and well paid. Yes I'm sure that's what Brexit has to offer!


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 1:00 pm
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This is just terrible. The baying daily mail xenophobes and racists are lapping it up. It's an embarrassing low point for this country.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 1:09 pm
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I look forward to the long overdue investment in...... Education to reduce the vast inequalities in outcoem we see & has us pfalling down global league tables, Apprenticeships that have collapsed since the providing body was privatised, investment in infrastructure in thepoorest regions, to replace the funding that currently comes from the EU.........

There will be loads of that in our low tax, perpetual austerity post-brexit Britain, fo suh!


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 1:11 pm
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Well the DUP just killed May's latest version of Chequers, then....

https://twitter.com/BloombergTV/status/1047036439228243968?s=19


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 1:15 pm
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There will be loads of that in our low tax, perpetual austerity post-brexit Britain, fo suh!

If we can roll back some HSE regs then we should start reducing life expectancy again and we can get on top of pensions


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 1:16 pm
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By Checks in the Irish sea does she mean Cheques or Czechs?


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 1:17 pm
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Well the resident unemplyed population largely lives in an area due to accidents of history. They were born there, schooled there and have stayed there. A migrant population (by defintion) will always be more flexible about where it can work.

And what is stopping any of those people becoming migrants themselves?


 
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Posted : 02/10/2018 1:45 pm
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And what is stopping any of those people becoming migrants themselves?

*sarcasm mode ON*

Cultahhh bruv, like we want to stick close to our roots/nans even if that means living in the middle of a sheep **** nowhere derelict mining village. Migration is for brown people, they're poor because their cultures are like shit and backwards plus they don't work hard enough innit. Where as we worked hard, I mean my grandad fought WW2 - so we deserve the good life.

*sarcasm mode OFF*

They feel like they're better than those people, so why should they move. Instead it's the governments, migrants, middle class peoples, the Chinese, the New World Order or the gays faults.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 1:47 pm
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They’re so lazy, they’d need to get on their e-bikes to find work


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 1:47 pm
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A bus will collect you at 3am to take you to the field

If you're expecting anything other than minimum wage you'll need to organise your own bus. Plenty of Eastern European workers have done this for themselves if their employer has been sufficiently good for them to consider this.

Brexit supporters I know also get very ranty about people “living of the state”.

Which is also ironic since loads of them retired at 55 on fantastic yet unsustainable pensions and receive a state pension to boot.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 2:25 pm
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Meanwhile, as the Dutch see it...

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Posted : 02/10/2018 2:26 pm
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Just watched Johnson. Whilst it's a bit rich for him to say that we should stop talking about Europe given he was one of the main people who fuelled the fire, I fear his points about respecting the vote and having the confidence to go it alone will be what the vast majority in this country think. He's cynically and very effectively pulling on the patriotic and jingoistic heart strings. I'll say it now, he'll be the next PM, and we're going out with no deal.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 2:44 pm
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Thts looking scarily likely

Cant see May getting that kind of rapturous applause he just got trashing Chequers, when she tries to sell it later


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 2:51 pm
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Nope. Up against that speech he just gave May doesn't have a chance. The tories will dump her after the conference, he'll be PM by xmas I think.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 3:01 pm
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I’ll say it now, he’ll be the next PM, and we’re going out with no deal.

If that scenario comes to pass, I state with equal certainty that the UK in its current format will not last 5 years.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 3:02 pm
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Part of me will be tickled if it goes tits up big style, Boris gets in, poor houses are back, the IRA kicks off l, Scotland secedes, Spain annexes Gibraltar....


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 3:09 pm
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He’s cynically and very effectively pulling on the patriotic and jingoistic heart strings. I’ll say it now, he’ll be the next PM,

The problem for him is he needs to get the tory MPs to vote for him first before the general members can anoint him.

Given how much they loath him I am not sure that is going to happen.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 3:12 pm
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Given how much they loath him I am not sure that is going to happen.

It's the only reason he isn't already leader. However, how long can they hold out? Much like with Corbyn, the parliamentary party can't resist the members forever or they'll risk destroying the party altogether. And with Corbyn waiting in the wings they'll turn eventually.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 3:21 pm
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Nah he's not after power yet, he just wants to keep chipping away at May so that when she fails to deliver a deal he can sieze the moment.  Trouble is that an overt leadership bid from BoJo would pull the party even further apart than it is now - if they split into "full-on-swivel-eyed" and "a-bit-right-of-the-lib-dems" then they're gone from power for a while and effectively hand the country to Corbyn, which they will never do.

And let's not forget what he did the last time there was a vacancy at #10, though the 2018 incarnation of BoJo is a bit different to the 2016 model.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 3:26 pm
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No matter what he’d have you think, the majority of Tory MP’s would rather hug a disabled, Black, Muslim lesbian eco-activist with cat AIDS than see Johnson’s name put to the membership as an option for the leadership.

He must know this full-well. He’s as (rightfully) despised by his parliamentary colleagues as he’s adored by the senile racist old giffers.

All his supporters will be dead soon, so he might as well have a crack at the leadership now though


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 4:26 pm
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poor houses are back,

Maybe not a bad idea would cure homelessness , shirkers benefit fraudsters , the ****less who don't want to pull their weight for a country.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 4:34 pm
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the ****less who don’t want to pull their weight for a country.

pensioners?


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 4:35 pm
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They probably didn't even shed a tear when the queen mum died, gawd bless her.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 4:40 pm
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He’s as (rightfully) despised by his parliamentary colleagues as he’s adored by the senile racist old giffers.

Not nearly as much as they hate Corbyn. That speech he gave said as much, it's him or Corbyn. They'll fall in line once the chips are down.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 4:50 pm
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That speech he gave said as much, it’s him or Corbyn.

Lets see who would oppose him. His ego won't consider anyone else but Govey is still out there


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 4:52 pm
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Lets see who would oppose him.

Doesn't matter really. He'll trounce anyone when it gets to the members, and the members won't tolerate him not being on the ballot. Maybe I'm assuming the members have more influence/power than they do, but if such a massive majority want him on the ballot I don't see how they can resist without risking complete implosion and potentially a split. The tories are now at where the labour party were two years ago. Just like in labour the anti-Johnson rebels won't have the balls to split.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 5:00 pm
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pensioners ?

No the cast of Jeremy Kyle.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 5:01 pm
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By Checks in the Irish sea does she mean Cheques or Czechs?

Arlene will always accept cheques (prefers cash, obviously), so it must be one of the others.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 5:03 pm
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No the cast of Jeremy Kyle.

and pensioners. Only ones to have been getting a pay rise


 
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