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Used to be "those who've read Illuminatus and those who haven't..."

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_enigma


 
Posted : 04/07/2013 12:14 pm
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maths and physics are great tools for people who don't know what they're talking about.


 
Posted : 04/07/2013 12:15 pm
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Oh god, the Illuminatus. The most effective book in the world for making all your freinds really boring for months and months... I do not miss those days at all.


 
Posted : 04/07/2013 12:22 pm
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I like:
sqrt(i) = sqrt(1/2) + i * sqrt(1/2)


 
Posted : 04/07/2013 12:34 pm
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I once told my boss in a pdr that the whole department had seats on the B Ark. Went totally over his head.


 
Posted : 04/07/2013 12:48 pm
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if you define c as 1, rather than a random figure, it becomes E=M !

apatr from the fact it isnt, it is actually

E = M + P^2

(or E^2 = M^2C^2 + P^2C^4)

which is why particle colliders work


 
Posted : 04/07/2013 12:55 pm
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And BTW there are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Boom, and, quite possibly, tish!


 
Posted : 04/07/2013 12:57 pm
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I always find E.psi=H.psi to be something that makes my brain hurt. A lot.


 
Posted : 04/07/2013 1:04 pm
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this is a personal favourite of mine: e^i?=-1
https://xkcd.com/179/
being unable to follow the explain xkcd always makes me sad 😥

but nobody makes jokes in base 13.
🙂


 
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here you go donk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eule r's_identity


 
Posted : 04/07/2013 1:08 pm
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There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary, those who don't and those who understand gray code.


 
Posted : 04/07/2013 1:13 pm
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F111

My head!

All of it! 😕


 
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There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary, those who don't and those who understand gray code.

There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary, those who don't, and those who understand ternary.


 
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Actually the base 13 thing is just coincidence, the root cause is the intimely introduction of Telephone Sanitisers into the Gene Pool.

That's the official version. Presumably I'm not the only person to wonder whether the pan dimensional beings had 13 fingers though?

As for ?, sine is a fairly fundamental function, and sin(?/2) = 1. Hence ? = 2 * arcsin(1). Using the infinite series expansion:
arcsin(x) = x + (1/2)*x^3/3 + (1*3/2*4)*x^5/5 + ...
? = 2 * (1 + 1/(2*3) + 1*3/(2*4*5) + ...)

There's probably an easier way, but that's one way to calculate ? from first principles.


 
Posted : 04/07/2013 1:40 pm
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The universe has no real relationship to that equation - it doesn't rely on it or hang together because of it.

All science is a guess, hypotheses that people come up with with a made up set of rules that we then use to try and predict what will happen.

The fact that the equations seems to predict some stuff we can measure means that we trust our lives to them.

It's the best guess until a better one comes along.


 
Posted : 04/07/2013 2:28 pm
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Do I exist? Do you exist? That's where we start going when you question the fundamentals of science. Some of the things discussed in this thread are mathematics, hence really are fundamental - nobody is ever going to prove them wrong, because they don't rely on measurements. Some is physics, but the current "best guesses" are actually extremely good ones.

Of course it is worth bearing in mind that E = mc^2 actually disproves KE = 1/2 mv^2


 
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Of course it is worth bearing in mind that E = mc^2 actually disproves KE = 1/2 mv^2

that sounds to me like a very bold statement. How exactly does it disprove it?


 
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Posted : 04/07/2013 3:16 pm
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How exactly does it disprove it?

KE equation is part of Newtonian physics and Einsteinian physics shows that Newtonian physics is just a very good approximation at low speeds.


 
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There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand quantum computing, those who don't, and those who are a superposition of both 8)


 
Posted : 04/07/2013 3:32 pm
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As for ?, sine is a fairly fundamental function, and sin(?/2) = 1. Hence ? = 2 * arcsin(1). Using the infinite series expansion:
arcsin(x) = x + (1/2)*x^3/3 + (1*3/2*4)*x^5/5 + ...
? = 2 * (1 + 1/(2*3) + 1*3/(2*4*5) + ...)

Out of curiosity I decided to try calculating it using that formula. It clearly doesn't get there that quickly - after 200,000 terms I have 3.139070 (currently running to 1 million terms but it's taking a very long time - I have a total of 500 billion multiplications or divisions to do that, so I guess it's not surprising!)


 
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The volume of a pizza of radius 'z' and thickness 'a' is....

pi z z a

Yeh!


 
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[s]^^^ That guy wins.
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EDIT: bugger it!

<<< that guys wins!

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Posted : 04/07/2013 8:34 pm
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@ScottCheg - love that !

As for E= m c^2 we covered the derivation in the first year at Uni and I'm delighted to report that I have no recollection of it which means something more useful has taken its place or worse these brain cells have died, it was in 1981.


 
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Disappointed at the lack of Big Audio Dynamite in this thread.


 
Posted : 05/07/2013 5:56 am
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It's amazing..
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[url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-Does-mc2-Should-Care/dp/0306819112 ]Why does E = Mc^2[/url]


 
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Just for you knottinbotswana

and as a bonus

which is so 80s it hurts.


 
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