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It's the sort of innocent thing which Jeremy Clarkson could easily have said

Brilliant

And LOL at THM moaning about misquotes after his partial Binners quote yesterday. You never fail to deliver on tripping over your own petard then acting all innocent and unaware

I think a lot of people seized on it as a chance to attack the scottish government to be frank.

So the RW English were wrong and used it to attack the Scottish/SNP for perceived racism. I am shocked to hear this is just not true...whatever next?


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 6:43 pm
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That audio is the most depressing thing about being an England supporter. SLSC is even worse that the sweaty flower song.

Me misquoting from page 74 of the rugby thread.

Anyway,I will leave it at that.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 6:48 pm
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That's a relief, back on topic (commented on that one at the time as you know, but you must have enjoyed the search)


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 6:50 pm
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[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/royal-baby/11581503/Royal-baby-Scottish-press-bury-story-of-Princesss-birth.html?fb_ref=Default ]How very dare they - Scottish Press Shows Contempt For Royals[/url]

Got to love the Torygraph. Imagine the people/media of Scotland being more interested in the election.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 7:00 pm
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Nowt to do with that. Advice from careers department.

And where do you think they got the idea? The same "Edinburgh university discriminates against RUK students" story runs pretty much every year.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 7:15 pm
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I'll have a word with the HM - perhaps she should be fired for incompetence


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 7:33 pm
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Got to love the Torygraph. Imagine the people/media of Scotland being more interested in the election.

I was certain the birth was going to get used as a campaign tool by the Tories at some point.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 7:36 pm
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I was certain the birth was going to get used as a campaign tool by the Tories at some point.

Did you miss the bit where everyone was banging on about her going into Labour?


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 7:43 pm
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That guy shouting in Jim Murphys face is an anti-austerity campaigner and not officially sanctioned by the SNP at all....

He a muppet, but you're getting to JHJ style posts of people together.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 7:43 pm
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That guy shouting in Jim Murphys face is an anti-austerity campaigner and not officially sanctioned by the SNP at all....
I'm all for showing up the SNP's nonsense for what it is, but I suspect that photo is from when he was fighting over social housing stock transfer and met various politicians. He was an SSP candidate, don't think any other party would let him stand.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 7:59 pm
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Greenock, today:

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Bloke on the right is a member of Combat 18 with a violent history, just to put the wee lassie's bravery in context.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 8:05 pm
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I'm all for showing up the SNP's nonsense for what it is, but I suspect that photo is from when he was fighting over social housing stock transfer and met various politicians.

The photograph is of an incident which occurred 4 years ago when Salmond agreed to meet Sean Clerkin after he threaten to disrupt a SNP manifesto launch.

[b][i]"Salmond sparked anger among parents and political opponents after he caved in to demands from anti-cuts protester Sean Clerkin, who was threatening to disrupt today's SNP manifesto launch in Glasgow".[/i][/b]

[url= http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/labour-accuse-alex-salmond-of-running-1100295 ]Labour accuse Alex Salmond of running scared on campaign trail[/url]

Kimbers used the photograph from the Daily Record but didn't include the accompanying story for obvious reasons.


 
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Here's another beaut from the Torygraph...

[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11578416/Scots-are-in-for-a-shock-when-the-English-run-out-of-patience.html ]Scots are in for a shock when the English run out of patience[/url]


 
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I'll have a word with the HM - perhaps she should be fired for incompetence

Course she shouldn't be fired. But careers advice is, well, you probably know. We have a full time job giving high quality advice to students for one university so it's no wonder they can't give good advice for whatever it is, 130 or thereabouts, plus all the other options. It's a no-win situation.

If you'd spoken to Edinburgh they'd have put you straight. It's all a bit hogwarts up there but they're very good.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 8:37 pm
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Here's another beaut from the Torygraph...

Scots are in for a shock when the English run out of patience

That is amazing - Scotland is ruined, apparently 😀


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 8:42 pm
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Why does THM hate the SNP so much and spends hours berating them on here(not that it will have any affect on the Scottish voters),seems he reserves even more bile for them than Labour.
Is there a hidden agenda,or is there something I have missed/or something we should be told?
ernie is far more even handed with his criticisms of all the players.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 9:12 pm
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IIRC its because he is neutral and above party politics 😉

He claims they are worse [ lying/decitful/manipulative ] than the others for reasons I am sure he will be delighted to explain


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 9:15 pm
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I am sure he will be delighted to explain
Please no. The independence thread was quite long enough. Just look at that.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 9:20 pm
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Don't worry OB, no intention. 😉


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 9:24 pm
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more comedy gold from [url= https://vine.co/v/eZz7BWWeKgY ]Jim Murphy just making up new words. #LeadersDebate[/url]


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 9:31 pm
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Why not allow education to price itself properly in the first place.

How do we do that, AAMOI ?


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 9:39 pm
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Northwind very interesting reading your posts on education. One point to pick up on though are the Tory reforms to granting visas, we had far too many students using higher education visas to come here for work never attending their Uni or not competing their course but remaining in the UK. You are right that some Unis became heavily reliant upon them but the flow needed to be addressed.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 11:25 pm
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Greenock, today:

Bloke on the right is a member of Combat 18 with a violent history, just to put the wee lassie's bravery in context.

Brave wee lassie. Freedooommm!


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 11:31 pm
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we had far too many students using higher education visas to come here for work never attending their Uni or not competing their course but remaining in the UK

That's not connected at all. These are measures targeting all students, not just those abusing the system, and none of them affect visa abuse or overstaying in the slightest. In fact most of them have more impact on genuine students. Seriously, look over the points I made and tell me which ones you think counter that issue.

Meanwhile, the procedures in place to deal with visa abuse, which are totally separate, are actually pretty effective when used and monitored. The Home Office struggles with them, because they're underfunded, demoralised and their procedures change every time the wind does but they do what they can. Which is why you saw tier 4 licences suspended (another one of these quite recently), highly trusted statuses withdrawn as with London Met, and why there's a load of measures in place to ensure attendance and to monitor universities. Which are all a pain in the arse but they do serve a purpose.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 11:49 pm
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London Met is a joke of a Uni. Its really nearer to a college in quality. The very few grant applications we got from them when I was at the Research Councils were laughable. It's a shame a rubbish Uni made a mess of visas and impacted the rest.


 
Posted : 04/05/2015 11:56 pm
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One point to pick up on though are the Tory reforms to granting visas, we had far too many students using higher education visas to come here for work never attending their Uni or not competing their course but remaining in the UK. You are right that some Unis became heavily reliant upon them but the flow needed to be addressed.

I fully agree that there are some establishments (and fake unis and colleges iirc?) that do this a lot. There should be stricter controls and checks on the establishments rather than the universities as far as I could tell the rules were either making it very difficult for highly talented students to study here or pushing them away entirely.


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 12:01 am
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Catching up on the news. More abusive and unpleasant behaviour in Scotland from those wearing the Saltire shown on the BBC. Laughed out loud on the newspaper reviews on SKY when they pointed out austerity was indeed over in Scotland as Nicola Sturgeon is now flying around in a personalised helicopter 😀


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 12:10 am
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More abusive and unpleasant behaviour in Scotland from those wearing the Saltire shown on the BBC.

that's just the BBC being down on the Nats as an independent Scotland will see the end of the BBC's cosy world, probably Labour Party supporters dressed up to cause trouble 😉


 
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Catching up on the news. More abusive and unpleasant behaviour in Scotland from those wearing the Saltire shown on the BBC. Laughed out loud on the newspaper reviews on SKY when they pointed out austerity was indeed over in Scotland as Nicola Sturgeon is now flying around in a personalised helicopter

Funny how they didn't cover the female SNP supporter (from Leicester, actually) who was attacked by unionist thugs in Paisley so badly that she needed stitches. Oh well, par for the course really.

The helicopter. Critics love going on about that. However we live in a country with no motorways north of Perth, and not many railway lines either. There are only so many ways to get about Scotland quickly, and it's not like it was paid for by the taxpayer.


 
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However we live in a country with no motorways north of Perth, and not many railway lines either.

God that sounds awful. Hasn't it been fully colonised yet ?


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 12:53 am
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However we live in a country with no motorways north of Perth, and not many railway lines either.
God that sounds awful. Hasn't it been fully colonised yet ?

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They keep trying,but the bally natives are increasingly restless old chap.


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 5:03 am
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Jam have you tried Fox news ?
IMHO you will just love its news coverage


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 8:05 am
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Morning JY, I watch a broad variety, Vice News is my current favourite. You can hardly hold the BBC up to bias when you have obnoxious SOBs simply intent on distrupting someone's canvassing.

Ben the helicopter has a large picture of Sturgeon emblazoned on it. I cannot recall ever seeing such a thing anywhere else, not in the UK or the US even where politics is focused on the individual. With all the violence it's not surprising the Romans built a wall.


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 8:37 am
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@jambalaya you are nigel farage. Keep the fiver.


 
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Ben the helicopter has a large picture of Sturgeon emblazoned on it. I cannot recall ever seeing such a thing anywhere else, not in the UK or the US even where politics is focused on the individual. With all the violence it's not surprising the Romans built a wall.

I know it's a strange thing in this country, to have a politician who people actually like. Other leaders like to flit in and out unnoticed apart from the pre-arranged press, holding closed events in empty warehouses or private meetings. The SNP would be mad not to make the most of Nicola's popularity.


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 8:48 am
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Is this unpleasantness (on all sides) something new in Scottish politics or has it always been there?
It is markedly different to around here that's for sure, it feels more like a local council election rather than the most closely balanced General Election in memory.


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 8:50 am
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Is this unpleasantness (on all sides) something new in Scottish politics or has it always been there?

There's no real unpleasantness. Just as before the Referendum, the media report a bit of heckling as a riot.


 
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Well, you mentioned someone getting assaulted, that's pretty unpleasant.


 
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Anyone need their ball back?

jambas, shin pads in the post 😉 (had you in mind with your reign experience yesterday!!)


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 8:57 am
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Yes, there's a new trend for the sectarian knuckle-draggers to latch onto political things - that is different, it's true. The Orange Order were strong No campainers.

However I don't think it's right to extrapolate this to a wider thing about Scottish society.


 
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Didn't mention anything about wider Scottish society, I asked if the unpleasantness around politics is a new thing.
It is pretty rare in England outside of extremist groups like BNP etc.


 
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I think the SNP move to the left, combined with the collapse of the Old Firm derby, means that in Glasgow at least we are seeing the knuckle headed idiots using the SNP and everything around it as a cause to jump on.


 
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Dragon has it spot on.


 
Posted : 05/05/2015 9:22 am
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Didn't mention anything about wider Scottish society, I asked if the unpleasantness around politics is a new thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_George_Square


 
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There's no real unpleasantness. Just as before the Referendum, the media report a bit of heckling as a riot.

Clearly you have a higher threshold for abuse than I do. The media reported it for what it was and I made my own mind up from watching the video.

Is it right to extrapolate this to wider Scottish society ? What ever the answer it certainly reinforces the steriotypes.

On the helicopter the SNP are normally pretty smart at managing their publicity, this seems a real own goal in particular with the cult status graphics. As for popularity Cameron, Miliband and Farage all have far far more supporters than does Ms Sturgeon. Big fish small pond.


 
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