Got a lot of respect for the guy coming back from that injury, but that has diminished a bit now.
haha what a dive, has made my night 😀
Show me someone who hasn't cheated during footy 😥
scotland v france, who cares 🙄
who cares
Why post then?
want to bet that Wenger knows 'for sure' that it was a definate pen, and will refuse to watch or comment on the replays?
thought eduardo had more class than that.
Hmmmm something for England to be wary of when we play Croatia then 'Eduardo the diver' 😕
Its def time to bring in some form of video ref.
Same old arsenal....
This is great, the scottish media will go on about how celtic were robbed and how its time for video evidence an Celtic do it every week and get away with in the SPL (specially against the mighty Killie)
Serves them right!!!
specially against the mighty Killie
🙂
I feel your pain.
stuartie-c are you one of us?
Nope - I was being facetious (sorry!)
'Mon the Hoops!
😀
Because, of course, no-one else in the Premiership has ever dived. Not Rooney. Not Giggs. Not Drogba. Not Owen. Not Ronaldo. It's the end of the world...
Why not Dunfermline?
Eduardo is a cheating ****.
Why not Dunfermline?
I'm from the West - adopted Fifer these days.
Rather academic now anyway 😀
[i]want to bet that Wenger knows 'for sure' that it was a definate pen, and will refuse to watch or comment on the replays?[/i]
MUNCH MUNCH MUNCH, this hat of mine that I'm eating is lovely 🙂 He was on the radio just now admiting it was't a pen! WOnders wil never cease...
2 match european ban for that, in my world !
Diving & faking/exaggerating injury [s]are spoiling[/s] have spoiled footie IMO - I reckon they should allow managers a limited number of time-outs instead of this expectation that the other team will stop playing when someone gets "hurt". That, plus opposing managers can request video review of 2 incidents per match with a view to punishing players who get away with cheating/fouling on the day.
Yes he did, footballer cheats shocker. What next blood capsules and being so shit scared of the gaffer you put your career at risk. Pro Sport has bred this no ethics culture. I blame Thatcher.
Well said pigface, what has happened to us that we take all the glory for a win even though we have cheated, its all went to shit.
It was magnificent as always to see Sellic come up against the same insurmountable difference in financial strength and resources in the Champions League that us diddy teams face against the OF in the SPL every year - welcome to our world. Even sweeter that there was a dodgy penalty for the big team 🙂
Been an Arsenal fan for decades and just HATED to see Eduardo do that, a clear dive, its just wrong, wrong, wrong.
I'd be in favour of post match red cards: any player found to have dived on basis of video evidence give them a match ban afterwards.
Stop cheating gits like Ronaldo and, unfortunately, Eduardo
i love arsenal and i love eduardo. yes he dived and yes it was a shame. it certainly wasn't the worst dive i've seen, though, and i can't really see why the media are getting all upset about this particular incident as if he's the first person ever to have dived?
if he gets banned, and there is the precedent that i didn't know about, then fair enough. it seems somewhat inconsistent, though. 😕
what will we have next, sellick fans complaining about refereeing decisions hahahahahahahahahahaha etc *to fade*
I think there is a solution to diving. the media should name and shame. sports programmes on the telly should have a "dive of the month" contest, papers should highlight it and so on. Not " a bit of a soft penalty" but "what a dive"
Ronaldo hated being outed as a diver and cleaned up his act considerably after a while playing in England. Name and shame and use the shame to get divers to change their ways.
retrospective bannings are the way, and would have an almost instant impact. i'd be a bit pissed off if it started with eddy, though, as it was by no means the worst i've seen!
retrospective bannings are the way,
In the league, points deductions for the worst offenders would be good.
"Same old Celtic
Cheating Celtic
Same Old Celtic
Cheating Celtic"
according to F365, retrospective bannings might not be allowed anyway:
diving is not a bannable offence according to the rule-book. Simulation is - according to the guidelines set out by all the governing bodies of the game - only worthy of a yellow card. So even if Manuel González had deemed Eduardo to have taken a dive under challenge from Artur Boruc last night then the full extent of the referee's legitimate response would have been a relatively meaningless caution. There's absolutely no basis in law for Eduardo to be suspended. A retrospective ban is essentially illegal.
sounds vaguely plausible.
Feel sorry for me, I have no interest in football but live in Glasgow and come from the south. Thanks to this idiot I can't leave my house for the next week.
Feel sorry for me, I have no interest in football but live in Glasgow and come from the south. Thanks to this idiot I can't leave my house for the next week.
Despite the fact that the only English players on show were in the Celtic team?
What an absolute s*!t that guy is! He should be banished from the world of football. Yeah, I think all footballers are a bunch of overpaid actors but I hate seeing cheating like that in any sport.
Yes, but after a few pints in the Glasgow local people fail to remember that.
Despite the fact that the only English players on show were in the Celtic team?
not quite.
glynP I'm one of us, been a while since we were mighty though. Good game against Hamilton, then shite against Motherwell when we paid to endure the dross.
You wonder why Eduardo felt the need to cheat, they were never going to lose anyway. Didn't see it myself though. Anyway smelltic do it all the time so they can hardly complain.
[i]Thanks to this idiot I can't leave my house for the next week. [/i]
You are joking, right?
Yes I am joking, but if I wonder into the wrong bar then I could be in more trouble then normal.
diving is not a bannable offence according to the rule-book. Simulation is - according to the guidelines set out by all the governing bodies of the game - only worthy of a yellow card. So even if Manuel González had deemed Eduardo to have taken a dive under challenge from Artur Boruc last night then the full extent of the referee's legitimate response would have been a relatively meaningless caution. There's absolutely no basis in law for Eduardo to be suspended. A retrospective ban is essentially illegal.
I reckon there'll be ways if they want to:
simulation of a foul, ungentlemanly conduct(?!), disrepute, ... ?
you might be right on the disrepute bit, but i would have thought that if there's specific rule for it then it would override it?
I don't think they'll do anything much - especially unilaterally (or retrospectively)
If we stamped out diving here but it continued abroad, international games (club & country) would be as silly as they used to be. Top UK managers would hate it to go that way.
Doubt there'll be ANY ripples abroad over this (issue or incident), so likely to be ignored domestically too
It's part of the game here's a good one
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looks like he's going to get done for it:
[url= http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5519707,00.html ]eduardo charged[/url]
still, our group for the CL's a piece of piss so we can get his bans out of the way and then hopefully it will be a precedent to stop diving generally.
bloody hell - that's some precedent !!
here's to consistency in future (I can think of a few teams/leagues who'll be needing to double their squad sizes)
if it was one of baconfaces players they'd have done nothing.
Eduardo won't be te first as a Lithuanian (Saulius Mikoliunas) has all ready fallen foul of this rule previously against Scotland.[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/27/scottish-fa-eduardo-dive-champions-league ](Reference)[/url] As the article says the SFA are using the same system and banned a player recently.
Eduardo-schmeduardo.
He's a wee poof.
Forget him. It's done.
The result won't change, and the 'sport' will go on.
We're still in for some European football, and we gotta bide our time before we get a league fit for a club with a support-base the size of ours, but it will come.
Hail Hail
we gotta bide our time before we get a league fit for a club with a support-base the size of ours, but it will come.
not in england it won't
moaning scottish/uefa/journo ****s
Eduardo's a diver but Rooney's clever, go figure 🙄
ABA ****s in full effect
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I've got it figured.
Eduardo's a diver
Eboue's a diver
Almunia makes too many mistakes
And Rooney's clever
(well not 'clever' as such but he's got a pretty good football brain)
Good result for your boys yesterday Arsenal? Pretty boys until they come up against a team that plays against them. Do you think the ref was a scouser?
Terrible ref yesterday.
Clear pen for the Arse denied.
Rooney going down way before the contact but nothing mentioned.
Their scum hypocrit fans booing Eduardo even though they'd been cheering the worlds biggest diver for the last 5 years.
What a joke.
Wenger = Legend 😆
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Good result for your boys yesterday Arsenal? Pretty boys until they come up against a team that plays against them. Do you think the ref was a scouser?POSTED 58 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST
As a neutral the reffing was awful yesterday. Clear pen not given for Arshavin being taken out and the yellow for Van Persie was just odd.
If you are comparing Eduardo to Rooney in terms of diving you are definetly wearing Wenger vison specs.
Certainly Rooney made no attempt to avoid/evade/stay on his feet etc but the keeper did actually hit him. Frankly what was he doing running out like that?
He did play for it but it was actually there and you can question whether it was sportsmanship or cheating and to be honest I am not entirely sure either but he was definetly hit by the keeper.
As for Eduardo what hit him? where was the contact? He did just cheat.
Similarities yes the same no
I would be bitter as an Arsenal fan though to play like that against a team
that badly and give them both their goals, denied a CLEAR penalty, offside goal must be hard to take.
EDIT: Three cheers for Lansera he did not mention Rooney is a scouser hold on he linked to Gerrard as a cheat instead ...everything in the world is as it should be PHEW.
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You'd think that with the light on them this week, Arsenal and their manager might want to stay clean and out of trouble for a while. What happens ? The mannager gets a red card then bleats to the press about how hard done by he is. Wenger is a manager with a long track record of poorly behaved teams and given his never ending enthusiasm to back his players regardless of the circumstances, it's easy to see why his teams behave so badly. I hope that UEFA throw the book at Eduardo. Karma.
trailmonkey:The mannager gets a red card then bleats to the press about how hard done by he is.
andywhit:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8229352.stm
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Just pop those 2 together 😉
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/8226633.stm
"In the 63rd minute, McGeady was issued his second yellow of the day and sent in for an early bath following a challenge from Hanlon.
Referee Dougie McDonald decided that no contact had been made and the Republic of Ireland international was [b]dismissed for simulation. [/b]"
Diving from a Celtic player, whatever next....
Just pop those 2 together
The red card may have been unjustified, it's just hard to offer any sympathy. Sadly for Wenger, he's cried wolf too many times.
And now he's come out with the old "It's just [b][i]so[/b][/i] unfair, they didn't let us win" line.
Comical.
...I think United have finally found their most effective formation: a 4-5-2 with Mike Dean pulling the strings.
deadlydarcy - MemberGood result for your boys yesterday Arsenal? Pretty boys until they come up against a team that plays against them.
well that's the theory. we haven't played such a team so far this season, so we've yet to find out. i was happy with the way we played, not so pleased with giving away the win, though. rooney's penalty was a penalty cos almunia was so foolishly committed, whether rooney wanted to stay on his feet or not.
fletcher on arshavin was pathetic, though. i feel the result over the weekend plays more into chelsea's hands than anyone else.
i feel the result over the weekend plays more into chelsea's hands than anyone else.
If by that you are intimating that Arsenal will offer a bigger challenge to Chelsea than Man Utd will, then you are as myopic as the Arsenal manager and quite frankly delusional. Arsenal will not finish above Man Utd.
i'm intimating that united have given away points already to a team they should have beaten and so have liverpool. despite the fact we should have beaten united it would have been a bonus if we'd got three points there, whereas chelsea are now 4 from 4.
and we will finish above united. 🙂
Arsenal's problem has not been solved. They have no heart. When it comes to the Nov- Feb period, when it's cold and they're getting lumps kicked out of them at Stoke or Birmingham, they'll drop points like they always do. The best they can hope for with the current squad is to battle for 3rd with 3 or 4 others.
Mancs if you played with an unbiased ref every week you'd be mid table at best.
Your centre midfield is a joke, terrible wide men, only Rooney gives you class going forward.
Your team is built on nicking 1-0 wins on the break or gifts fom the ref (or Diaby).
You're not even good to watch.
😉
Dean is a scouser.Mancs if you played with an unbiased ref every week you'd be mid table at best.
Well, I enjoyed it.You're not even good to watch.