Ok it's the Dail Mail which is shocking in itself (I couldn't see the vid itself on you tube)
But people getting stuff out of lockers, arguing with each other etc etc. Unbelievable 😯
Just hope idiots like this are not on aircraft with me
Edit: found it.
But people getting stuff out of lockers, arguing with each other etc etc. Unbelievable
Not to mention filming it.
Arsewipes.
Exactly the same thing happened on a BA flight last year. [url= https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/09/aeroplane-evacuations-why-people-grab-luggage-before-escaping ]https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/09/aeroplane-evacuations-why-people-grab-luggage-before-escaping[/url]
People, innit.
Not entirely surprising sadly. It is likely people had their passports and valuables in their bags and natural reaction is not to leave them behind. This footage needs to be used in passanger education to show how close to death they where by not following instructions
Given it was a landing with no wheels and a fire its remarkable there where no passanger deaths
Flown alot in that region and the behaviour is not that shocking considering the behaviour normally. It's not surprising to see people getting up out of their seats immediately after the aircraft has touched down while the thrust reversers are still deployed. It just seems like some people just think the 'rules' are there to simply convenience them. however as rare as air accidents are it's a fact that it is not the actual crash that causes the fatalities, it's the aftermath, whether it be the fire or the evacuation. There is nowt more dangerous than folk. Most passengers coming off the BA B777 crash at Heathrow a few years ago didn't actually realise the aircraft had crashed - they thought it was a heavy landing and were a bit bemused about the following emergency evacuation. So clearly if people don't recognise the significance of the emergency then they will think about retrieving their personal belongings. Ironically its a testament to the safety of flight I guess. people simply can't conceive that they might be unlucky enough to be involved in a significant aircraft incident or accident.
These people have just survived a plane crash, to be fair to them it's doubtful that they're in the best state of mind to behave in the most rational of manners. Most will probably be acting instinctively I'd have thought. Whilst not ideal, human nature I'm afraid, and everyone was still out of the aircraft in way less than a minute - pretty impressive really considering. Would perhaps be more relevant to hear someone's point of view on these peoples actions from someone whose been in the same situation themselves.
They should have an automatic lock on the overhead lockers when the seat-belt sign is on. You clearly can't trust folk to make sensible decisions in these situations.
I expected chaos when I clicked on that vid but it was hardly people trampling over old folk and children to get at their baggage. Bit exaggerated really.
Martin, I've never been in a crash but I expect the seatbelt signs are turned off when the crew instruct an evacuation!
If only they gave a safety briefing on every flight and reminded people not to collect belongings.
Agent007 - they weren't evacuated in less than 1 min. The video clearly shows that he starts filming after standing up, which was presumably was not instantaneous with the crash. It then takes him 77 seconds to get out the door, and he probably wasn't last. I don't know the circumstances the fire fighter died in, but perhaps if they had left their bags and all been clear five seconds quicker he wouldn't have been exposed to the same danger.
Jamba - If you think avoiding the inconvenience of the British consulate having to sort passports etc is more important than getting off a crashed plane then i hope your not between me and the exit. If the plane doesn't burn up you'll get your bag an hour or so later. If it does you might be lucky or you might be dead.
this is why i pay for a seat next to a door...
It did almost appear that people only really moved when the cabin crew started shouting at them.
Maybe there should be a recorded message that plays through the speakers.
Perhaps overhead lockers should be locked in the event of an emergency landing.
That would add weight to the aircraft, and I bet it still wouldn't stop idiots trying to open them.
I don't get it personally. I never take things of personal value on holiday, hand luggage just has cameras, cash, valuables etc. All stuff that is irrelevant and can be replaced
My 160gb iPod Classic can't be replaced - they don't make them anymore. But then, neither can I.. 😕
Difficult choice, I guess..
It did almost appear that people only really moved when the cabin crew started shouting at them.Maybe there should be a recorded message that plays through the speakers.
This is what I was thinking - I don't think people really knew what was going on and hadn't realised it was a real emergency because they hadn't been told.
There was a jet that caught fire on the runway at Manchester. I remember an interview with a survivor. She said that instead of leaving, people were standing around getting stuff out of the lockers. She, a woman of mature years, went over the seat backs of the centre row. She had guilt issues after.
Stewardesses were behind the idiots, presumably trying to move them on, and died.
Unfortunately people are herd animals and enough are blithering idiots to make others act the same.
If I'm ever in a plane crash and you get between me and the exit trying to get your bag you'll be getting pushed over and trampled.
I always put my passport in my pocket, although it's really just a morbid thought that if anything happened to me I'd want to give people the best possible chance of identifying my body, so my family would know as soon as possible.
Totally believable.
Video gives an accurate view of how people behave in this day and age.
My sister is ex cabin crew and has said that in their training they're taught that people will freeze instead of evacuating, and there's no substitute to screaming "out, out, out, ****ing move!" to get people moving.
*Edit* and, in this case, of course, hats off to the crew for getting everyone out alive.
Martin, I've never been in a crash but I expect the seatbelt signs are turned off when the crew instruct an evacuation!
Good point! 😆 You get my drift though, some kind of locking mechanism which means people know that, unless the plane is at the stand, they won't be able to get at their hand luggage. Would also solve the problem of the stupid bastards who think it's cool to jump out of their seats and open the lockers while the plane is taxi-ing.
I suppose people will just stick it under the seat instead, but at least only they will be burning to death as they wrestle it out instead of blocking the aisle.
There was a jet that caught fire on the runway at Manchester. I remember an interview with a survivor. She said that instead of leaving, people were standing around getting stuff out of the lockers. She, a woman of mature years, went over the seat backs of the centre row. She had guilt issues after.
Was that the one back in 1985?
john d - I remember the interview, not the incident. As a traveller one collects these things, along with advice about surviving hotel fires. Like someone said, I kept my passport in a jeans pocket, along with cards I had enough to survive on, or to be identified.
(edit) ... One also collects sea stories, of course.
Yeah, was given some good advice once - if you're not sitting in an emergency exit row then count the number of seats you need to climb over to get to it.
Seesm sad to think that if you ever have an accident/problem these days anywhere you're more likely to get people filming it than coming to your aid.
It's worth remembering that as a passenger, it's actually quite difficult to assess the severity of the situation. Even after what was probably a relatively rough ride down the r/w on the planes belly, once the noise has stopped, and everyone works out they are still alive, typical reaction will be the worst of the danger has passed, when in fact, it hasn't!
Given how difficult it is to disembark a plane under normal circumstances this is not a surprise. People are stupid.
How can you properly experience a plane crash if you're viewing it through your phone screen? 8)
I saw this and also thought how stupid and selfish.
I'd be scrambling over the seat backs to get out i'm afraid.
Utter Morons
It is ridiculous.
But ordinary folks from India would have been treated incredibly harshly by immigration staff at [s]Dubai[/s] any airport if they arrived there without passports etc, even if they had just escaped a burning jet.
[i]Yeah, was given some good advice once - if you're not sitting in an emergency exit row then count the number of seats you need to climb over to get to it.[/i]
On a third world flight, yonks ago, workmates were sat in the emergency exit row. In those days fit young blokes were given the seats, maybe to assist the stewardesses*. They drank some beers and slept. Luggage was piled in front of them. They put their feet on it. A woman came along and complained, loudly. They couldn't understand. She returned with a stewardess who said 'Sirs, would you please take your feet off this woman's baby'.
They felt really bad. But it's the emergency exit.
*It was a 747, probably, and the cute little ladies would need help with the doors, and with forming an orderly queue, and then throwing the panicked down the slides.
martinhutch - Member
They should have an automatic lock on the overhead lockers when the seat-belt sign is on. You clearly can't trust folk to make sensible decisions in these situations.
It's a very good idea actually. Not only for emergencies, but even just locked from take off until landing to stop people constantly pestering people to get up so they can pull something else from the overhead and block the isle as people want to get past all during the flight.
Make them think about taking essentials out and put into the seat back. Stuff passport, keys and phone in a pocket.
As a seasoned travel I NEVER underestimate the stupidity of my fellow passengers, plus I always carry my essentials in my pockets - certainly don't want to be abroad without my ID, no matter why the reason.
I also always look during the safety briefing of where the various exits are; once a chap sat next to me asked me (nervously) what I was doing.
I just replied that I always check the exits. He asked why. And I just mentioned that I'd once seen a documentary where a passenger commented that the reason he'd survived an air crash and others didn't was that he'd already worked out how to get out.
Preemptively remove any obstacles....