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Old geezer down the pub just sank three pints and jumped in his flash Range Rover.
Hopefully the the old bill find him.
I would imagine you can have 3 pints of shandy and be OK.
Did you do in anyone else?
Snitches get stitches. No one likes a grass
Snitches get stitches. No one likes a grass.
I dislike grasses less than I dislike drink drivers.
Hopefully the the old bill find him.
They were all too busy yesterday arresting peaceful protesters.
Good and three pints of shandy would still put you over the limit here.
Three tonnes of range rover taking a corner a bit wide and fast could have devastating consequences. I grassed an ex-wife after she appeared at my door pissed and then drove away at 2am. Found her car parked outside my flat the next morning with two knackered front alloys and a lot of airbags deployed. She'd obvioulsy hit a curb pretty hard. (yes a Louise)
I think the issue is that drunk driving is a victimless crime until it’s not.
I do get peoples views on snitches but expect that that view would change if their family/friends were innocently involved in an incident.
It’s selfish to drink/drug and drive and isn’t culturally acceptable anymore,that times passed.
Did the same a few months back.
Was for his own good as his car was in the hedge and he was staggering around in the brambles.
If we'd been 30 seconds ahead of where we were walking he'd have taken us with him too.
Tough call - if it wasnt shandy or alcohol free he was drinking then he'd likely be over limit, but very unlikely significantly impaired.
In this instance I side with the snitches get stitches, and question if you had a pre-existing issue with this old fella anyway.
Good.
If it turns out to have been three pints of Guinness Zero then no harm done bar some mild inconvenience.
If it was three Stella's (do people still drink that?) then good service done.
As for snitches get stitches I'd rather a few stitches than someone's mum, dad, child etc ends up in the morgue.
but very unlikely significantly impaired.
I think your definition of 'significantly impaired' differs from mine!
but very unlikely significantly impaired
I know I would be if I tried to drive after 3 pints.
and isn’t culturally acceptable anymore,that times passed.
Unfortunately, from recent conversations with staff and students at work recently, this no longer appears to be the case for many.
Tough call
No it isn’t. It’s very easy. DUI is illegal for very good reason. I’m sure some people attempt to justify it by saying “there are worse sober drivers” etc but that’s irrelevant even if it were correct. It’s illegal over a certain one size fits all amount and everyone should comply regardless of how well they think they can drive after a few drinks…
very unlikely significantly impaired.
Compared to what? What a ridiculous statement. The law has already decided what the definition of significant impairment is and has imposed a limit so everyone is clear what it is.
Well done OP. Ignore the playground snitches get stitches bollocks, utter nonsense driven by bullies.
Drink driving kills.
Unfortunately, from recent conversations with staff and students at work recently, this no longer appears to be the case for many.
Disappointing to hear 🙁
If it turns out to have been three pints of Guinness Zero then no harm done bar some mild inconvenience.
As a regular drinker of alcohol-free beer (I don't drink alcohol at all) I would revel in the smug satisfaction of passing a breath test 🙂
Obviously a waste of police time though.
I am assuming that the old geezer that the OP shopped wasn't a stranger, after all who spends their time in a pub counting how many drinks complete strangers consume? I would have absolutely no idea.
So presumably they know that it wasn't low alcohol/alcohol free?
If it turns out to have been three pints of Guinness Zero then no harm done bar some mild inconvenience.
As a regular drinker of alcohol-free beer (I don't drink alcohol at all) I would revel in the smug satisfaction of passing a breath test 🙂
Obviously a waste of police time though.
I am assuming that the old geezer that the OP shopped wasn't a stranger, after all who spends their time in a pub counting how many drinks complete strangers consume? I would have absolutely no idea.
So presumably they know that it wasn't low alcohol/alcohol free?
I'd agree with most of that Ernie, except for the concept of "Obviously a waste of police time though."
The first thing that "old geezer" will do is tell his tale of getting breath-tested (assuming that he did) to all and sundry. At that point that breath test becomes an excellent use of 5 minutes in prevention on who knows how many others
All power to you alpin
Well done OP. I hope if I am ever in the same situation, I will do the same thing.
In this instance I side with the snitches get stitches, and question if you had a pre-existing issue with this old fella anyway.
Maybe it’s a generational thing (I’m mid forties), but to assume you’d only grass on a drink-driver (alleged) because you have an axe to grind seems odd.
Drink driving is illegal, it’s a public safety issue (baby robins etc if you like to minimise death and serious injuries), it has become increasingly unacceptable in most public spheres. If you believe someone is over the limit, challenge them, call them a taxi if needs be, but if they still get behind the wheel absolutely call the police!
OP shopped wasn't a stranger, after all who spends their time in a pub counting how many drinks complete strangers consume? I
He was. Having lived away for the last 18 years everyone here is a stranger.
I sat there nursing my two pints whilst reading the Economist. Halfway through the first this guy comes in and drinks three pints in quick succession. It's a really tiny pub with three tables and a 5ft long bar. Hard not to notice.
I'll admit that I didn't like his attitude nor his politics which he felt he needed to share with the other five people in the pub.
WRT to snitches get stitches.... Used to abide by that but then the people I used to know bitd who were worth dobbing in were right nasty Berks. Know at least a few people who ended up in hospital and one who had their house burnt down. I left the area as soon as I could at 18.
Snitches get stitches. No one likes a grass
This is so dumb. Would you have the same attitude if the OP had seen someone breaking into house or attacking a woman in the park?
Seeing as this is a bike forum, I would have hoped all of us would take a particularly dim view of drink drivers...
think the issue is that drunk driving is a victimless crime
I don't think anyone is saying that. Are they.....
Tough call -
It really isnt.
In this instance I side with the snitches get stitches, and question if you had a pre-existing issue with this old fella anyway.
Jesus wept. Amazing. Even the introduction of the word "fella" into the sentence to make him seem completely benign.
if he was drinking low/no alcohol or a very weak shandy then he’ll probably feel vindicated that he made the right choice in the pub and tell his mates that he got stopped and thus dispel the idea that your chances of being caught are tiny.I would imagine you can have 3 pints of shandy and be OK.
Did you do in anyone else?
anyone saying “snitches get stitches” needs to give themselves a shake, it’s not a school playground you are encouraging violence against people who are trying to make our roads safer for all of us. If you don’t want stopped for drinking alcohol and driving, don’t drive or don’t drink - if you can’t do that go see your doctor. There’s evidence that even below the English limit there is an impact on driving standards, but none on personal awareness of your abilities: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9671988/
Anyone saying drink driving is a victimless crime is asking for another view of that Aussie road safety video where they ask a chap how many road deaths is a reasonable number, then bring out his family.
but very unlikely significantly impaired.
Would it be reasonable to assume you are from an older generation? I'd hope so. I thought we'd moved on from those befuddled (incorrect) views and it's only a few entrenched old ****ers who are struggling to keep up. You could be high-functioning alcoholic I guess - they tend to say stuff like that too.
In this instance I side with the snitches get stitches
Oddly, I've found the sort of people who spout this are the same people that like to say "police these days...can't be arsed to do their job" bla bla bla...without appreciating the irony in their juxtaposed viewpoints. And coincidently....high-functioning alcoholics like a good 'snitches get stiches' accusation too as it's what keeps them able to do what they do in plain sight....
Drink driving older Range Rover driver.
Highly likely to be a racist Gammon too based on that profile. The country would be better off if they were the ones deported to Rwanda.
On a slight tangent, when did the phrase “high functioning alcoholic” become part of the conversation about alcohol dependent people?
I class myself as previously alcoholic, (sober over 18 months now), I never knowingly drove whilst under the influence, however, I’m functioning a lot better since I stopped!
Perhaps it’s a phrase dreamt up in some think tank to make middle class alcoholism sound better?
“Still stumbling, almost coherent alcohol dependent” doesn’t sound quite as nice?
Would it be reasonable to assume you are from an older generation? I'd hope so. I thought we'd moved on from those befuddled (incorrect) views and it's only a few entrenched old ****ers who are struggling to keep up.
TBH just checked my licence and id got it in ‘85 at that point it was def unacceptable to drink an drive and DoD-Dad had stopped doing it before then and he’s probably in his 80’s now and doesn’t drive anymore.
IMHO I don’t think age has been an excuse for decades 🙂
UK gov' figures.
Overall, an estimated 6,800 people were killed or injured when at least one driver was over the drink-drive limit.
Omg I am shocked at the comments against the OP! Imbeciles.
Well done OP.
On a slight tangent, when did the phrase “high functioning alcoholic” become part of the conversation about alcohol dependent people?
I think it just means they manage to hold down a good job somehow
I think it just means they manage to hold down a good job somehow
Not sure it was ever really defined, but I’d always taken it to mean people who are dependent on alcohol but manage to function, hold down a job etc. One of my wife’s friends was seeing a solicitor for a bit who managed to see off two bottles of wine a night in the week, which is probably into this territory.
Of course what we saw in the pandemic was ‘functioning alcoholics’ who had the structure of work removed, became ‘non-functioning’ in pretty short order, and not long thereafter presented to hospital with decompensated ALD.
Well done. Hopefully one more danger off our roads. I have done the same in the past. someone who habitually drove after several pints.
but very unlikely significantly impaired.
Aside from variances in individuals and the strength of alcohol, this is going to be heavily dependent on the time frame in which it's consumed.
3 pints of Stella inside a couple of hours would have me well on the way to feeling tipsy. Spread over 8 hours I'd feel pretty sober.
Either way, anyone drinking 3 pints and jumping in the car knows they're taking the piss. It's a bit worrying how many cars you see parked outside of country pubs these days.
Its been proven that you are actually impaired at lower than the 0.35 English limit. One of the things with alcohol is you have little insight into how much you are impaired. The only safe amount of alcohol is zero
Despite feeling sober in that position Butcher you would be impaired
Edit - not meant as a dig at you
OP - you are going to have to go there next week and see if he turns up and what he has to say…
Can't believe anyone has even tried to push back on the OPs actions.