Or perhaps crikey with his many years of knowledge and experience painstaking gained actually understands the issues rather better than you do? Just a thought?
Or are you still refusing to hear anything you don't want to?
TJ, do you know crickey personally? Hands up everyone who's been to the local Dr and found their knowledge lacking in one way or another?TandemJeremy - Member
Or perhaps crikey with his many years of knowledge and experience painstaking gained actually understands the issues rather better than you do? Just a thought?
Some of the posters on this thread who work in the medical field are positioning themselves as the font of all knowledge...which is of course very silly. I'm not making a case for cannabis as a medicine one way or another, but I think there is a lot that we don't yet know about the plant, such as, which of the [i]many[/i] cannabinoids (beyond THC, CBD, CBN etc.) and in what combinations, effect the body/mind and in what way.
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Or perhaps crikey with his many years of knowledge and experience painstaking gained actually understands the issues rather better than you do? Just a thought?
Clearly not, if you [b]watch the video[/b] it proves you all wrong, infact it makes you look stupid.
I especially like the parts about pain, how cannabis is an analgesic, how it is effectively used to treat depression, anxiety, PTSD, and insomnia.
These aren't small studies either, over 30 years of research.
"Medical professionals" owned in at their own game!
Flow 1 - Know it all's 0
GAME OVER
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TJ did say he suffered from CFS too though for most of his adult life.
TJ has also said on the internet that he can see stress auras, doesn't mean it is true.
I don't think I have ever made so many people look so stupid at once before, this is quality.
Just in case you missed the link
TBH the gloating from both sides is really quite sad, especially when it's backed-up with comments on getting payback for previously received ridicule and the like.
Have a word, chaps...
You're right Teasel, but when you have so many deluded idiots thinking they are correct because they are "medical professionals" they need to be put straight. ****ing amateurs.
Of course a piece on youtube is definitive. 🙄
Most of the medical professionals accept cannabis could have medical uses indeed some are generally accepted. However it has serious and common side effects.
However flow is talking obvious nonsense and is offering bad advice from a position of ignorance.
There's only one way to settle this....(no not Harry Hill's now infamous 'FIGHT'....that's been played out far too much on this forum)....
We arrange a forum rideout, Flow volunteers to fall off in an amusing way and breaks a limb, when we've all finished laughing he gets to medicate the pain....we'll have a joint on standby and we'll also have some lovely opiates....obviously Flow gets to have the joint first, if it stops his pain then we'll all have had our eyes opened and we'll throw the other meds in a bush or something....if however he's still in pain he can have the prescription meds, maybe.
We can film it and somebody could write it up as a nice piece for the next issue of Singletrack....titled: What pain meds to carry in your rucksack when bivvy bagging?
Of course a piece on youtube is definitive
are you claiming that THC Creative Media and Marijuanna Movies have an agenda or something 😯
Is what I read at creation.org also a little one sided?
Please say it is not so TJ
Flow aagin no one is really debating whether it does or it does not work [clearly it has effects I have inhaled] what we are saying is it needs proper research. Proper research is not a stoner googling on Youtube to post up what other stoners have said.
This thread has put me off two things.
1. Smoking Dope
2. Being a Medical Professional.
You are all acting like total twunts.
Quite right proper research carried out by the very industry that stands too lose out if it is proven too work.
Groovy man, pure genius!
So basically anyone thinking of using cannabis to get relief from pain or suffering, should wait until there is proper research done, or at the very least give the pharmaceutical industry a chance to make a product that they can sell to us, for eh money!
Oh dear god what part of the medical industry don't you get, big pharma companies are already making money off cannabis based drugs. They don't lose out to "natural" drug's as lot's of "natural" drugs go onto become drugs that they put onto the market. They are much better at delivering drugs that are pure, of correct dosage and with lessened sides when compared to garden variety pot dealers.
It's much harder to control consistency with plants, with the cannabis based drug solutions you can control the dosage therefore the pharmacokinetics and reduce the dosage to a therapeutic window that causes the least amount of sides.
God it's like smashing your head against a brick wall.
Quite right proper research carried out by the very industry that stands too lose out if it is proven too work.Groovy man, pure genius!
how are the pharma companies going to lose out..?
Of course a piece on youtube is definitive
If you watched it you would see that its a bit more than just a youtube video.
Proper research is not a stoner googling on Youtube to post up what other stoners have said.
Obviously, but the research has already been done, I'm just pointing you lost sheep in the right direction.
It's much harder to control consistency with plants
BS.
If they are cloned from the mother plant and grown the same way in a laboratory setting, ie with identical light, temp, humidity, soil ph, nutrients etc, they will turn out identical.
You're right, it is like smashing your head against a brick wall, all you "medical professionals" haven't got a clue.
So who actually watched the video and who is too narrow minded to bother?
😆If they are cloned from the mother plant and grown the same way in a laboratory with identical light, temp, humidity, soil ph, nutrients etc, they will turn out identical.
It's much harder to control consistency with plantsBS.
If they are cloned from the mother plant and grown the same way in a laboratory setting, ie with identical light, temp, humidity, soil ph, nutrients etc, they will turn out identical.
so like they said much harder and that is nothing like what a drug dealer would be doing. Are you really claiming their is no variation in quality or strength of illegally sourced drugs? That is BS and it daft to claim we can make it all as identical as a chemical in a lab.
FWIW I am not a medical professional but I have been a stoner
I have yet to dedicate 50 ish minutes of my life to find out what the THC and marijuanna fan club think of pot....can i just guess at what they said 😉 Would you like to guess at what the research for creationism.org has found it or would you like a 50 minute video to watch on the research?
I will watch it but it wont be till friday and by then I will almost certainly have forgotten about all of this.
Is it as unsafe as some of the drugs that big pharma' rush to market, with faked test results and subsequent scandalous cover-ups? Or how about the massive miss-prescribing of drugs by medical professionals...say, anti-depressents for 'hyper-active' children, for example.TandemJeremy - Member
However it has serious and common side effects.
Short-term memory problems, J?Junkyard - Member
I will watch it but it wont be till friday and by then I will almost certainly have forgotten about all of this.
Are you really claiming their is no variation in quality or strength of illegally sourced drugs?
No I'm saying its a lot easier to get the same results over and over again than you think, especially in a lab.
I have yet to dedicate 50 ish minutes of my life to find out what the THC and marijuanna fan club think of pot....can i just guess at what they said
Its thorough scientific research/studies, I think you will be amazed TBH.
For simpletons (TJ) cloning a plant is just another word for taking cuttings. Its really not as difficult as it seems.
Have you thought of popping down to your GP and asking whether they can give you something to help you relax flow ? You seem a tad wound up.
That video takes 40 minutes to deliver not a lot info we know already. Pretty much like a conversation with every cannabis user I have ever met.
all the best to the OP's mother but if I were to ask on this thread if Realman has paid Jimmy yet will it stop. Please make it stop.
That video takes 40 minutes to deliver not a lot info we know already. Pretty much like a conversation with every cannabis user I have ever met.
Another know it all 🙄
TJ will be along shortly to welcome you to the club.
Your wasting you time Flow mate step off!
Leave them too it, the governments are the good guys 😯 , modern medicine and the NHS isn't just a massive scam with just enough good being done to make it justifiable and herbal remedies that have been used for hundreds of thousands of years a lot of which are the source for processed drugs, are just a con, witch craft, voohoodoo.
Safety in delusionment, innit?
Why not PM me flow and we can have a chat about useless shit noone else would be interested in.
As for all the conformists, if you are so very smart and clued up why does your way of life suck so much ❓
Im not reading all that, but to the OP, surely if the lady in question is aware of the potential negative effects of cannabis, then surely she could just choose to give it a try. Its pretty easy to get the dosage right when smoking, when it feels right- stop for a bit. If the worst happens and she gets paranoid or lethargic then stop, and it'll go away in a half an hour or so.
Your wasting you time Flow mate step off!Leave them too it, the governments are the good guys , modern medicine and the NHS isn't just a massive scam with just enough good being done to make it justifiable and herbal remedies that have been used for hundreds of thousands of years a lot of which are the source for processed drugs, are just a con, witch craft, voohoodoo.
Safety in delusionment, innit?
Why not PM me flow and we can have a chat about useless shit noone else would be interested in.
As for all the conformists, if you are so very smart and clued up why does your way of life suck so much
You do realise ever since modern medicine was invented life expectancy has been going, cancer survival rates have been decreasing, Aid's is becoming survivable, that the NHS service is one of the best healthcare systems in the world despite it's flaws etc etc etc
You are a complete hippy tool.
Another very educational video that you narrow minded medical "professionals" could learn a lot from.
And this is the icing on the cake.
OP don't listen to anything anyone has said on this thread (especially the "professionals"), watch the videos I have posted and make your own mind up.
Let me know how you get on 😉
Fair well fools....
TJ - Reefer Madness is covered in my last video, proven to be nothing more than government misinformation.
Must try harder.
Wahts that whooshing noise flow? 🙂
Thats the sound of your only brain cell working in overdrive trying to prove me wrong.
Its not going to happen.
No
its the sound of the point that I am taking the piss by posting "refer madness" flying right over your head.
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Dont worry TJ I got it
its was a joke Flow a rather obvious one
EDIT TJ that is twice now I have posted within 30 secs to say exactly what you have just said please stop typing faster than me you are making me look foolish
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its ok I have no short term memory and I have forgotten about it 8)
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Jesus, how many hours of video has Flow posted now? And one of the great shocking facts that we're going to find out if we watch them all is that Reefer Madness isn't to be taken seriously? Well clear my diary.
You want to give us a precis?
that last one by 2 mins in we have two claims for it curing caner [ granted one is for it almost completely curing it in mice andone is for it bein "anti-caner"] one it saved my life and a few doctors being lets look at it objectively and ignore the politics my STM issue kicked in then and i failed to GAS at this point sorry
