[Closed] Donald! Trump!

Whats that, Donald Trump wants you to stop asking him awkward questions about hos plans to make lots of money out of being president.....
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-14/donald-trump-reprising-campaign-attacks-on-hillary-clinton/8181914
#SADFACE #Predictable

Yeah, I listened to his interview and I got the distinct impression that it hadn't really sunk in that the election is over. The mud slinging was just to get in power DT, now you've got to actually do something other than shout "those emails folks!".

Donald J. Trump ?@realDonaldTrump
Totally made up facts by sleazebag political operatives, both Democrats and Republicans - FAKE NEWS! Russia says nothing exists. Probably...

Probably? 😆

as dull as it is, another one sums it up really
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/opinion/donald-trumps-made-for-tv-promises.html?mc=aud_dev&mcid=fb-nytimes&mccr=JanIntlMidMC&mcdt=2017-01&subid=JanIntlMidMC&ad-keywords=AudDevGate&_r=0
Yes there is a need to engage the disenfranchised voter, however I think we all know where this is heading

The thing is about Trump and his "promises", based on actual things he is on record as saying:

- Scenario A: He meant every word he said during his campaign and since.
If this is the case, then this means the following:
- He's racist;
- He really does not know what his overall plan is;
- He's schizophrenic;
- He's bigoted;
- He's homophobic and sexist;
- He has no compassion whatsoever.
- Scenario B: Everything he said during his campaign was just to get him elected:
Therefore:
- He's a class A manipulator;
- He's really does not know what his overall plan is;
- He has no compassion whatsoever;
- He's a liar and therefore not to be trusted;
- He has no empathy or social skills, and therefore a sociopath;

Either way, it's not good.

He may bring back some business to the USA, but at what cost? It'll mean either all homegrown goods will be cheap and of very low quality or very expensive. Either way, it doesn't benefit the USA as a whole, and certainly isn't a long-term model.

Ted Cruz is sponsoring a bill to partially defund the UN post the Israeli Settlements resolution. Probably the most important early read we will get on Trump's foreign policy will be how he reacts to the UN once President. All he has said it would be very different.

...also relocating the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem? 😯

Probably the most important early read we will get on Trump's foreign policy will be how he reacts to the UN once President.

Well all the signs are for a massive pro Israel approach which is disappointing.

So same ole, same ole. But I thought Trump was supposed to be different. A breath of fresh air. A change of direction. You don't mean he lied about that as well, do you?

Unless the Palestinians want to build a hotel they will not get his attention. Moving the embassy to Jerusalem is another "bold" political move where you just try and piss more people off.

- He's a class A manipulator;
- He's really does not know what his overall plan is;
- He has no compassion whatsoever;
- He's a liar and therefore not to be trusted;
- He has no empathy or social skills, and therefore a sociopath;

Either way, it's not good.
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Either way, it doesn't benefit the USA as a whole, and certainly isn't a long-term model.

I guess it all depends on what your views concerning US hegemony are. If you share the same views as these people :

[url= http://nationalinterest.org/feature/american-hegemony-here-stay-13089 ]American Hegemony Is Here to Stay[/url]

[i]"The truth is that America can and should seek to remain the world’s top dog."[/i]

Then yes, it's not good.

If however like me you you don't think Americans are God's chosen people on a divine mission to dominate the whole world then it's actually pretty good news.

Far from making 'America great again' imo Trump is more likely to make the US somewhat less powerful by reducing its influence and authority.

I'm sure you'll agree that all those Trump "qualities" you list are unlikely to increase United States's influence and authority in the world.

I do feel sympathy for the American people but no more so than I do for all the non-Americans in the world. And Americans are grown-ups, they need to live with the decisions which they make, however hash that might be.

Far from making 'America great again' imo Trump is more likely to make the US somewhat less powerful by reducing its influence and authority.

I see he's off insulting folks who ruffle his feathers again.
Perhaps it is better that he gets on with Putin. 🙄

Last time a US president tried to stop their involvement abroad, his brain ended on the back seat of his car.

He does seem intent on causing upset in palestine.
Just as an international effort toward a 2 state solution is renewed,
And nentenyahus lurched even further right and Israelis have been exposed trying to smear and 'take down' British MPs.

I think that palestine could see the first trump induced loss of life, especially if he moves the embassy straight away

(Though the N-word apprentice tapes being released on inauguration eve have a good chance of riot starting)

It'll take a while for a proper confrontation in the south China sea to kick off.

I'm trying to find the slightly scary speech by one of trumps incoming team that talked about America's unique ability to protect the world

Though the N-word apprentice tapes

Not sure that would tell us anything we don't know already, would it? What he is is already clear to everyone, but he was elected in spite of that.

Strange times.

After getting into a spat with a civil rights activist on MLK day things will be primed, protests marches planned on the day and counter marches by bikers.
Only the cold weather can save it from kicking off now!

Last time a US president tried to stop their involvement abroad, his brain ended on the back seat of his car.

This one's brain is already in his backseat. And if you think he's not going to engage in 'involvement abroad' then check out the bridge I have for sale in the classifieds, hardyhar.

The thing is about Trump and his "promises", based on actual things he is on record as saying:

- Scenario A: He meant every word he said during his campaign and since.
If this is the case, then this means the following:
- He's racist;
- He really does not know what his overall plan is;
- He's schizophrenic;
- He's bigoted;
- He's homophobic and sexist;
- He has no compassion whatsoever.
- Scenario B: Everything he said during his campaign was just to get him elected:
Therefore:
- He's a class A manipulator;
- He's really does not know what his overall plan is;
- He has no compassion whatsoever;
- He's a liar and therefore not to be trusted;
- He has no empathy or social skills, and therefore a sociopath;

Either way, it's not good

What's worse is C. ie no-one probably not even Trump knows entirely what was/is BS, what is a plan and what isn't/wasn't. The personality disorders are a given, they are there for all to see and hear, if not identify.

A+B = C-word.

Whilst Trump's election as US president is clearly very bad news for all those who support peace and justice in Palestine there are already signs that it has began to reduce the influence and authority of the United States on global matters.

[url= http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/major-powers-to-warn-trump-over-middle-east-peace-at-paris-meeting-1.2937694 ]Major powers to warn Trump over Middle East peace at Paris meeting[/url]

The people of the United States have elected a new President, not the new leader of the world.

What he is is already clear to everyone, but he was elected in spite of that.

Because of that. It made him different to all the other candidates, a substantial chunk of the US electorate wanted 'different'. The Obama legacy no longer represented change which they could believe in.

EDIT : I'm not saying that the American people wanted a racist as a president, I'm saying they wanted someone who tore up the rulebook concerning what makes the perfect politician. They had tried smooth slick carefully crafted career politicians that said all the right things and were left hugely unimpressed.

I doubt they thought for certain that Trump was the right person for the job but they were left so disillusioned by career politicians that they thought it was worth taking a risk with something completely different. Trump is something completely different.

i would be interested to see stats on what % of obama voters switched to Trump

My feeling is it quite a small % but i have not seen any figure

kimbers - Member

After getting into a spat with a civil rights activist on MLK day things will be primed, protests marches planned on the day and counter marches by bikers.
Only the cold weather can save it from kicking off now!

The John Lewis tweets are just... "all talk talk talk, no action", the man was a bloody freedom rider. He was one of the organisers of the march on washington ffs.

At this point it's no shock but that doesn't mean it becomes OK.

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[url= http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15024879.World_reacts_to____brilliant____Trump_inauguration_synopsis_in_Sunday_Herald_TV_listing/ ]http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15024879.World_reacts_to____brilliant____Trump_inauguration_synopsis_in_Sunday_Herald_TV_listing/[/url]

Trump has received $90m in donations for his inauguration, a record. Obama had 10 inauguration balls, Trump is having 3. Excess is being donated to charity.

Trump has received $90m in donations for his inauguration, a record. Obama had 10 inauguration balls, Trump is having 3. Excess is being donated to charity.

Probably because no one feels like celebrating the fact Trump is President (throws up a little, just thinking it).

Amusing amount of butthurt in the comments section of that Herald piece.

I thought it was the lefties that were meant to be the delicate snowflakes that took offence at everything. 😆

Enjoyed this too:

Wow.

The anti establishment billionaire guy has received $90 million from the establishment

Whodathunkit

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/14/trump-inaugural-committee-raises-record-90m-to-cover-steep-costs.html

Who can blame them for not wanting to attend with entertainment like this:

. Obama had 10 inauguration balls, Trump is having 3.

Musicians for two and he's doing a mix tape for the third

There will be a Bruce Springsteen tribute act at Trumps inauguration. How humiliating is that - to be so shunned by the entertainment business that you have to rely on a tribute act?

The drummer from Crimson Glory is playing though, that makes up for it.

(the Garden State Gala isn't actually part of the inauguration though. And the E Grade Band played it the last 2 times too)

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🙂

ernie - how embarrasing for Bruce Springstein a massive Democrat supporter to have his music played at a Trump inauguration and be able to do nothing about it. Born in the USA ringing out as Trump becomes President. The TV image of the night ?

Trump quite rightly lighting a fire under NATO and the very long list of countries not pulling their weight. Also interesting how it takes Russian agression to get Europe to wake up and spend a bit more - 2016e

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yeah trumpers will only know the chorus anyway

but its painfully obvious to everyone that hes been snubbed by everyone,.... most of all to the snowflake in chief himself

Born down in a dead man's town
The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
End up like a dog that's been beat too much
Till you spend half your life just covering up

Born in the U.S.A., I was born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A., born in the U.S.A.

Got in a little hometown jam
So they put a rifle in my hand
Sent me off to a foreign land
To go and kill the yellow man

Born in the U.S.A., I was born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A., born in the U.S.A.

Come back home to the refinery
Hiring man said "son if it was up to me"
Went down to see my V.A. man
He said "son, don't you understand"

I had a brother at Khe Sahn
Fighting off the Viet Cong
They're still there, he's all gone

He had a woman he loved in Saigon
I got a picture of him in her arms now

Down in the shadow of the penitentiary
Out by the gas fires of the refinery
I'm ten years burning down the road
Nowhere to run ain't got nowhere to go

Born in the U.S.A., I was born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A., I'm a long gone daddy in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A., born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A., I'm a cool rocking daddy in the U.S.A.

jambalaya - Member

ernie - how embarrasing for Bruce Springstein a massive Democrat supporter to have his music played at a Trump inauguration and be able to do nothing about it

oh wait, Trump relying on fakes, that rings a bell...

Nice retort from German deputy chancellor on how to get Germans to buy American cars "build better cars" 🙂

Trust me he is not remotely embarrassed. He's going to be the President of the US and the world will be watching. What is there to be embarrassed about ?

Nice retort from German deputy chancellor on how to get Germans to buy American cars "build better cars"

Amusing indeed, however playing with fire given emissions scandal and NATO underspend, Germany agreed to increase from 1.2% to 2% but Trump could easily demand that's done sooner. It's a €30bn pa increase required. Trump could (and IMO will) screw the Germans over eurozone debt crises by getting a fabulous deal for the IMF in any bailout or simply having the IMf stay out completely.

Yeah, I bet he's just weeing himself....

Be even more hilarious if The Boss slapped an injunction on the Tribute band.

What is there to be embarrassed about ?

the fact that he's billy-no-mates?

come on, can you really try and spin this into a positive?

hes so toxic he couldnt even get mariah carey and she sang for Angolas dictator and Mummar Gadaffi !
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jambalaya - Member
Trust me

Shouldn't think so.

^^^ he got $90m in donations, would suggest he has mates.

He is in a stand off with the MSM at the moment, apparantly he is refusing to give them their normal permament White House "West Wing" access. There will just be a large room (400 seat capacity) no preferential access and no permanent office space. As we saw in the last conference, no CNN question and one for Breitbart. Changing of the guard media wise.