The NYT can do as much reportage as it likes...no one is paying attention.
Also it was the 'failing' NYT and especially Wash Po that pursued the Flynn story and brought him down.
We were being told that trump would be sidelining the MSM.... It seems that they are now taking out his inner circle.
Who's next- Spicer, Conway, Miller Preibus?
Got to be Conway, both sides calling for her head on some very simple this rules.
Please, not the sphincter. He's too entertaining. Kellyanne is looking considerably more raddled than she was at the start of the campaign, so I'm guessing they've got something on her. Either that or her blood products are being harvested to keep the Donald alive.
Oh and a note for poor little Ivanka, if who your Daddy is got you the gig don't get upset when he causes it to go away...
They don't need much on Kellyanne she is finished anyway with the endorsement even if the bowling green should have got her.
Guess would be the inner circle? can we call them the inner ring? want Priebus out
martinhutch - Member
Last Week Tonight
While I agree with the comments on brietbart and infowars and people getting their news from narrow/non traditional news outlets. The same is clearly true for a large part of the "left" imo. It's patently obvious a lot of people only get their news from the likes of John Oliver.
Now While I enjoy his shows, I can separate it from news. i'm not sure a lot of people can! Something I feel people need to recognise.
The entertainment/news lines is heavily blurred on all sides.
The entertainment/news lines is heavily blurred on all sides.
when youve got a reality tv celebrity for a president prone to tantrums over the most inane things what do you expect!
farage, the referendum, delusional brexiteers, trump..... as Armando Iannucci said
“I now find the political landscape so alien and awful that it’s hard to match the waves of cynicism it transmits on its own. - Fiction is winning out because fact is no longer making sense.”
Id also take john oliver's factual accuracy over that of breitbart or infowars!
well if your sides are not splitting...
The New York Times published a story Tuesday evening claiming anonymous “aides” on President Donald Trump’s campaign had contact with Russian intelligence, citing classified information supplied by “four current and former American officials.”
Oddly, the Times reports that these officials concluded that there was “no evidence” they had seen that the “Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.” So there would seem to be no story.However, the anonymous officials were reportedly alarmed by the “amount of contact that was occurring while Mr. Trump was speaking glowingly about the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin.” The Times does not report who initiated the contact.
The Times misreports at least one key piece of evidence. It claims: “At one point last summer, Mr. Trump said at a campaign event that he hoped Russian intelligence services had stolen Hillary Clinton’s emails and would make them public.”
That is not true: the “campaign event” was a press conference, and Trump’s comment was clearly a joke, as Breitbart News reported at the time — though that did not stop the media and the Hillary Clinton campaign from trying to make it a campaign issue.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/14/russia-new-york-times-classified-info-says-trump-aides-spoke-russian-intelligence/
More logic fails than a STW rightie...
Just seen an ad for Hannity on Fox where he said Trumps approval rating is climbing, tried to do some research and can not find anything to corroborate this.
I know Hannity is a scumbag IMO but this seems a stretch even for him.
I know Hannity is a scumbag IMO but this seems a stretch even for him.
Fox = Murdoch= Buying Influence
[url= http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx ]heres the gallup daily [/url] 😀
That Gallup poll doesn't include reaction to Flynn's resignation yet either
Cheers Klunk that is what I found as well. I swear we are all doomed
[url= http://www.gallup.com/interactives/185273/presidential-job-approval-center.aspx?g_source=WWWV7HP&g_medium=topic&g_campaign=tiles ]he's still got a way to go to hit GWs low of 25%[/url] but to be so low so early in the administration is really "unusual!"
but to be so low so early in the administration is really "unusual!"
not considering the work he has put in so far, damm he has been working hard
Does it make any difference other than a warm fuzzy feeling for the democrats though?
All the polls in the world don't stop him being president
On his state visit with the Queen, Donald Trump expresses his desire to change the status of American to that of an Empire. The queen says that to achieve that, they'd need an emperor in charge, so it isn't possible.
"How about a Kingdom?", Trump asks. "No, you'd need a king"
"A Principality?" "No, Donald, you'd need a prince."
After a moment's thought, the Queen adds: "Considering the current situation, it'd be much better suited as a country".
You're really tiresome ninfan, you know that, right?
ah he is back on form!! you were wavering in your support earlier ninfan.
What about the nice little calls to the FSB?
Who's next for the high jump? Conway?
All the polls in the world don't stop him being president
Yes we had noticed he was president
Fortunately the Reps not feeling too fuzzy about those polls, so when they have to vote on that impeachment..... 😛
aren't we due a new travel ban exec order. Or is that on the back burner for now ? 😕
Fortunately the Reps not feeling too fuzzy about those polls,
Ah, the same reps who were all disowning him when they thought he was going to lose?
It's a bit like being bothered about the polls when the polls all got that wrong too.
Not only are you living in impeachment fantasy land, but you're forgetting what the result would be - take a look at the possibility Mike Pence's policies and you'll really shudder.
Ah, the same reps who were all disowning him when they thought he was going to lose?
Would they be the ones deleting tweets about being slack on classified material? #DinnerSpills
Not only are you living in impeachment fantasy land, but you're forgetting what the result would be - take a look at the possibility Mike Pence's policies and you'll really shudder.
Read your history?
How did Nixon go down? Reps need Dems to get the Vote, Dems will ask for a patsy in the VP first
aren't we due a new travel ban exec order. Or is that on the back burner for now ?
Due this week isn't it? Pull your finger out man, you're slacking.
[quote=mikewsmith ]I would say the people who belived his BS are realising it was just that.
How many Trump supporters/voters do you know?
I wouldn't say I "know" any, but I see comments from quite a few on FB, and unless these people are completely unrepresentative then they are a way off realising it is BS. TBH I'm not quite sure what will result in that realisation - his support appears to be more religious than rational (appropriately, given that a lot of his support comes from so-called Christians).
I suppose we could always try and get an answer from our resident Trump supporters...
The people who were promised jobs, those that were promised action, any coal mines getting opened?
Oh and his approvals are falling
The news never gets as exciting as this!!!! 🙂
[quote=ninfan ]I'm on record as a supporter, but I would argue that the protests and character attacks have achieved nothing, whereas the only effective damage has been caused by really traditional, old fashioned leaking and well structured and calm/clinical Court action (whether it subsequently holds up or not)
You're an apparently rational man - you talk a lot of sense on some other threads (and I enjoyed your moon landings joke up there - it was a joke wasn't it?) So you can surely see through the BS to what the man really is doing. Can you rationally explain why you are still a supporter?
(bonus points if as somebody who appears to be quite into the outdoors you can explain why his wholesale dismantling of the EPA and environmental regulation is a good thing)
I wouldn't say I "know" any, but I see comments from quite a few on FB, and unless these people are completely unrepresentative then they are a way off realising it is BS.
I suspect that they are quite unrepresentative - silent majority and all that. Trump's core support isn't enough to get him elected.
It looks like all the fake news and the opponents of President Trump are at it again by trying to destroy President Trump attempts to rebuild relationship with Russia.
The reason is simple because the opponents simply cannot accept the fact that there will be peace established between USA & Russia, especially from someone who "grabs" others' body part. They really cannot imagine that.
These people simply cannot imagine having their concept of bogeyman (Russia aggressor etc) destroyed because that will make their (irrelevant) values redundant. 😛
And chewy is back in the room 🙄
If Trump can pull off a similar relationship with Russia that Reagan/Thatcher/Gorbachev managed then well done him (though it was mainly down to Gorbachev's desire for change - I don't see Putin having the same attitude).
chewkw - Member
The reason is simple because the opponents simply cannot accept the fact that there will be peace established between USA & Russia, especially from someone who "grabs" others' body part. They really cannot imagine that.
Peace <> doing as uncle Vlad tells you because if you don't he will (allegedly) tell everyone what naughty things you've been up to and sabotage all you and your mates' financial deals in Russia.
And chewy is back in the room
If everyone could just ignore the troll they would go away
colournoise - Member
Peace <> doing as uncle Vlad tells you because if you don't he will (allegedly) tell everyone what naughty things you've been up to and sabotage all you and your mates' financial deals in Russia.
1. President Trump 71 year old. Accused past is the last thing on earth that worries him. i.e. things like financial dealings with whoever, grabbing body parts etc ... nobody give jack shite about that coz people will still vote for him.
However, not doing the right thing for the people will definitely keep him awake.
2. He won the election with the support from "rednecks". Do you think these people give a flying zebra about US and Russia relationship getting better?
3. People want change so voted previous "US regime" out regardless.
4. Accused cyber hacking etc swayed jack shite about people voting for President Trump. (oh ya, this cyber hacking etc happens all the time what's the big deal?)
Now apply all the above to your rationale that Russia has managed to grab hold of President Trump body parts then see if something happens.
(AAARRRGGHH!!! can't resist).
Wasn't saying that anything will happen because of whatever Trumpie's relationship with Vlad is or isn't.
Just pointing out that IMO any imbalance is not a great foundation for a relationship or for peace...
And, you REALLY think Uncle Donald actually cares about doing the right thing for 'the people'? I've seen precious little evidence of that so far.
[quote=chewkw ]However, not doing the right thing for the people will definitely keep him awake.
😆
#trumpcares
colournoise - Member
Just pointing out that IMO any imbalance is not a great foundation for a relationship or for peace...
I am sure they are balanced. Really, they are. These two are just posturing so will not go head to head and they know that.
Crikey, do you think he has JK Rowling's magic wand that can do instant transformation? How long has he been in office? Also everywhere he goes the opponents are blocking him by lying down in front of him so not making his life easy innit. Why not get out of the way and let the President does his job then you decide?And, you REALLY think Uncle Donald actually cares about doing the right thing for 'the people'? I've seen precious little evidence of that so far.
Yes, he cares for those who have voted for him. I am sure that's the right thing to do, hence he cares. 😛aracer - Member
chewkw » However, not doing the right thing for the people will definitely keep him awake.😆
#trumpcares
You're an apparently rational man - you talk a lot of sense on some other threads (and I enjoyed your moon landings joke up there - it was a joke wasn't it?) So you can surely see through the BS to what the man really is doing. Can you rationally explain why you are still a supporter?
He upsets people who I like to see upset?
No, in all seriousness, there is a level of truth in this, if Donald is upsetting and frightening people who have held the reins of power for decades, then he must be doing something right - like it or not the status quo hasn't been good for a lot of people, their jobs have been offshored to the lowest cost provider with the lowest workers rights and environmental concerns (something I would suggest was never really the point of free trade) - forcing those suppliers back onshore can only be a good thing for the long term sustainability of the US economy.
Regards Muslim ban etc- like it or not, Wahhabist Islam, as a religion, has some truly horrible aspects within its community and implementation that are incompatible with western liberal society (attitudes on women and homosexuality for example) have led to global insecurity, its right that those home nations do everything in their power to combat it and work with other nations to do so - to put their own house in order and to take refugees themselves as well. Just as we would be doing if it was the scientologists blowing people up for insulting Joshua Smith. My opinion is that Trump is trying to pressure them into making those changes, and that isn't a bad thing.
(bonus points if as somebody who appears to be quite into the outdoors you can explain why his wholesale dismantling of the EPA and environmental regulation is a good thing)
I think this is mixed, there are concerns, rightly or wrongly, that much of their work had taken on a political and evangelical rather than truly scientific and environmental aspect. See the recent NOAA whistleblower stuff as an example. If the intent is deconstruct and rebuild, and to make them concentrate science and regulatory work rather than as a political lobbyist, this might not be a bad thing. Of course if the goal was, in the alternative, merely to reduce/weaken regulation, then it's different.
Edit: to add, if nobody can see that the whole Russia thing isn't classic 'post collapse of GWOT, new Cold War pork barrel politics' then they must be daft.
There's a lot of misunderstanding of what Putin actually wants.
Nobody seems to understand that he (and some of his key advisers who have actually gone into print on this) want instability elsewhere. That way Putin doesn't really have to have policies (or certainly doesn't have to have them 'approved' by the populace). Simply asserting himself as a constant, a safe option in a world convulsed by apparent chaos is then enough to ensure his position.
That is why Putin will have helped the likes of Trump to win an election, then threaten to release evidence of this and other stuff to discredit him. It all adds to the impression he is trying to create amongst his own populace that it is a dangerous world 'out there' and you're better off with Uncle Vladimir in charge.
Putin does not want anything other than to preserve his position and security, don't think of this as akin to past alliances and pacts, this is not about anything of the sort.
chewkw - Member
Crikey, do you think he has JK Rowling's magic wand that can do instant transformation? How long has he been in office? Also everywhere he goes the opponents are blocking him by lying down in front of him so not making his life easy innit. Why not get out of the way and let the President does his job then you decide?
Admittedly, I'm not monitoring the US media 24/7 but I'm not sure anything that's come out of the Whitehouse since January (Executive Order or not) has been focussed on making things better for 'the people' on a day to day basis. Any potentially positive effects just feel like collateral damage at the moment.
Possibly against my personal judgement, I'm willing to give the new administration the benefit of the doubt to a certain extent but that gets harder and harder with each new 'revelation' - even given the that the mainstream media is obviously so biased and basically just spewing anti-Trump propaganda...
(I don't really like using emoticons).
ninfan - there should be a Like button for your post.
Not that I agree with much/any of it but it's the most sensible and thought-out response I've seen from you on this thread. If only the debate could be kept at that level, rather than the [i]"LOLZ at the Lefties"[/i] thing, I might do more than occasionally drop in 😆
Scotroutes - thing is, I'm all up for serious debate, but you can't do that with people who have histrionically convinced themselves that Trump is literally firing up the crematoria.
The key thing is Trump is not rational. He is incapable of rational thought because of his obvious personality disorder and you need to view his actions in this light
He is incapable of rational thought because of his obvious personality disorder
See what I mean?
[quote=ninfan ]Scotroutes - thing is, I'm all up for serious debate, but you can't do that with people who have histrionically convinced themselves that Trump is literally firing up the crematoria.
Also true - it's not all one-sided.
[quote=scotroutes ]ninfan - there should be a Like button for your post.
+1 - I disagree with most of it, but glad I asked the question as it's something worth discussing rather than the usual playground level taunting.
[quote=ninfan ]if Donald is upsetting and frightening people who have held the reins of power for decades, then he must be doing something right - like it or not the status quo hasn't been good for a lot of people, their jobs have been offshored to the lowest cost provider with the lowest workers rights and environmental concerns (something I would suggest was never really the point of free trade) - forcing those suppliers back onshore can only be a good thing for the long term sustainability of the US economy.
I think that's similar to the reason a lot of people voted for him - a protest vote against the establishment if you like. The important question though is whether he's actually going to achieve any of that, and what harm he is going to do in the process. Or is he just filling the swamp with even bigger monsters. I don't believe he actually has the interests of those people in mind, he's only interested in them voting for him.
Regards Muslim ban etc- like it or not, Wahhabist Islam, as a religion, has some truly horrible aspects within its community and implementation that are incompatible with western liberal society (attitudes on women and homosexuality for example)
Which is again a fair point. However it has little to do with the ban which is knee jerk politics at its worst. The ban makes no difference at all to such societies, and the claim has never been made that it will - the claim is that it will make the US safer by preventing "bad people" coming in. As has been pointed out numerous times if you really wanted to achieve that then you'd ban people coming from countries which have supplied terrorists to the USA, like Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Hence in reality it is just pandering to prejudices.
If the intent is deconstruct and rebuild, and to make them concentrate science and regulatory work rather than as a political lobbyist, this might not be a bad thing. Of course if the goal was, in the alternative, merely to reduce/weaken regulation, then it's different.
😆 - what do you reckon the aim is based on the evidence so far? Is it likely to be more science based with Pruitt in charge?
See the recent NOAA whistleblower stuff as an example.
[url= https://arstechnica.co.uk/science/2017/02/article-names-whistleblower-who-told-congress-that-noaa-manipulated-data/ ]what this one ? [/url]
The important question though is whether he's actually going to achieve any of that, and what harm he is going to do in the process. Or is he just filling the swamp with even bigger monsters. I don't believe he actually has the interests of those people in mind, he's only interested in them voting for him.
The cynic would say that you could judge much of that by how loud they squal, and how hard they are fighting against him. Look at JFK 😉
As for Trumps actions, it's tough, because he really was saying much of this stuff years and years ago, long before there was any voters interested:
In fact, the consistency in what he's been saying is pretty remarkable
what do you reckon the aim is based on the evidence so far? Is it likely to be more science based with Pruitt in charge?
Or Happer as science advisor, or Perry as energy secretary? Again we are left wondering how a reasonable person could support Trump?
Not necessarily as - forgive the goodwin- but I assume this was said about hitler what really matter sis what he is trying to do once he has "shaken them up" that is clearly to make them more like Putins russia - in terms of his power - and less rational - as indicated by his appointments to key areas like the "global warming cult" arguments. I am not sure moving to a more autocratic less fact based approach is something anyone should really want.if Donald is upsetting and frightening people who have held the reins of power for decades, then he must be doing something right
This is true and were the US actually trying to dos something he might even get some broad appeal as no one is supportive of this type of islam. However one would assume that the first response would be to deal with Saudi- it is the state religion after all - where this all started/centres/revolves rather than target other countries in order to look tough and appeal to the redknecks.Regards Muslim ban etc- like it or not, Wahhabist Islam, as a religion, has some truly horrible aspects within its community and implementation that are incompatible with western liberal society (attitudes on women and homosexuality for example)
This will neither make america nor the world safer.
IMHO this has been done as it has to be a success politically as whilst immoral is astute in political terms.
1. No attacks - see it worked
2. Attacks - see i told you we needed to do it those liberals tried to stop me making america safe etc - all despots need a reason to remove civil liberties/erode congress or the power of judges.
IMHO the reason is more likely for the later
Trump is not the bogeyman but he is an irrational anti science populist ego maniac with poor sexual morality and a poor moral code. I see no reason to like that even if he was left wing and I would like to think was he a firebrand lefty with links to russian hacking to get in power i would be equally appalled even though I might appreciate his aims more.
https://www.ft.com/content/d9d6f33a-e6c5-11e6-967b-c88452263daf
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/04/saudi-arabia-ground-troops-syria-fight-isis
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/donald-trump-saudi-arabia-king-salman-abdulaziz-al-saud-agree-safe-zones-syria-yemen-a7553341.html
coincidence?
Ninfan - he obviously has a personality disorder tho and its so obvious multiple US psychiatrists have gone on record stating this as its so concerning to them.
Once you understand this its much easier to understand his actions. Personality disorders are common especially in politics and at the top levels of business.
He is an absolutely classic case
I can't think of a better person to make me happy by pissing people I don't like off (best reason ever for supporting this muppet). At least he's doing his bit for US safety by letting everyone have access to a gun.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38986147 ]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38986147[/url]
At least no one is hurt... Yet! 🙄
I said a few pages ago the NRA must be loving having their best mate in office. Now it is bearing fruit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38986147
People with mental illnesses buying guns: What could go wrong?
Watching Chanel 4 news, what's striking about Trumps 'team' is that the (melted Stepford) women, with their fixed rictus grins, are even more terrifyingly unhinged than the blokes 😯
If he is doing everything he said he would do during the campaign when is he going to release his taxes?
If he is doing everything he said he would do during the campaign when is he going to release his taxes?
He won't because we'll find out that he's not actually that wealthy.
A fair few would argue you are based on how you used to be on here 😉he obviously has a personality disorder tho
Ouch
Worth reading what the man who, literally, wrote the book says:
“Call him a liar, call him evil, call him a threat to democracy, call him impulsive, call him ignorant — these labels are all absolutely true — but saying he has a mental disorder doesn’t really add force to the argument,” Frances says.
Basically he says it has not all come crashing down yet so until it does he is not mentally ill and only when he has seen him face to face
Its basically a defence of the goldwater rule- not an unreasonable position
this seemed pretty fair tbh
I called Joshua Miller, a psychologist who directs the University of Georgia’s clinical training program and studies the differences between personality and disorder, for a third perspective. He says that in many cases, it can be hard to tell where personality ends and illness begins.
That’s because these days most mental illnesses exist on a spectrum. “Even disorders we thought ... you either had it or not — categorical things like schizophrenia — we now know are much more like spectrum disorders,” he says. “You can have some schizophrenic traits, but not all.” And that’s especially true of personality disorders, which he says are all just extreme manifestations of otherwise “normal” personality traits.
The question What is a mental disorder? he says is “probably one of the most intractable debates that exists. And it’s playing out with Trump now.”
We can probably all agree Trump is it at the extreme * end of many traits hence the debate
* Literally at the furthest extent/far degree not as in his policies being extreme right wing etc.
He has a great idea that is going to resolve the Israel/Palestine shite.
After lunch he'll probably do Syria, I guess.
Nothing wrong with him, no siree!
#trumpcares
#altfact
Alternative fact = inflate cave tart.
ninfan - MemberOuch
I don't understand what the "ouch" is for. The man makes some very valid points :
[i]Psychologists don’t have such a rule, and Frances — who supports the Goldwater Rule and generally thinks mental illnesses are overdiagnosed — worries that when the petitioners and others call Trump mentally ill, they stigmatize people with psychological problems. They can also distract from the more objective criticisms you can make of his presidency. “Call him a liar, call him evil, call him a threat to democracy, call him impulsive, call him ignorant — these labels are all absolutely true — but saying he has a mental disorder doesn’t really add force to the argument,” Frances says.[/i]
What's wrong with that? Most people would agree that Adolf Hitler probably had some fairly serious mental health issues, but should we focus Hitler's mental health or other issues such as his policy of gassing Jews?
I think we know the answer to that question.
Although obviously many people on the far right would dispute the claim that Adolf Hitler had any mental health issues, or even that he was responsible for gassing Jews. Some of them are likely to be Trump supporters btw, but you know that.
Well a quick mornming look at the twitter feeds, we finally seem to have apolicy of jobs
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/schedule/register/melbourne-fl-2017/
Yep thats right he is going to hold a rally, sounds very practical. I assume shouting and hollering are obligatory and everyone will get a free job at the end?
also from Twitter
Donald J. Trump ?@realDonaldTrump 11h11 hours ago
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The fake news media is going crazy with their conspiracy theories and blind hatred. @MSNBC & @CNN are unwatchable. @foxandfriends is great!
What's that if you agree with the President you are great, as always Murdoch knows which bum hole (get somebody else) to crawl up, and then back to bashing the messenger for daring to leak that he knew all about his Man chatting away to the Russians when he shouldn't have been and all the time doing nothing about it despite being warned he was a serious security risk. Oh no it's the nasty media and intellegance people at fault again...
I guess when the truth is embarressing and political poison it's best to try for a diversion.
Regards Muslim ban etc- like it or not, Wahhabist Islam, as a religion, has some truly horrible aspects
Indeed, makes one wonder why the ban effects countries that are not deobandhi in their outlook. Especially Iran which isn't even Sunni!!
personality disorder is not a mental illness! Its a developmental abnormality ie a wiring fault. Or you can call it a mental disorder but it is not an illness. You are born with it and you die with it and it cannot be treated or changed
Half a dozen prominent psychiatrists have said this publicly and its absolutely obvious he has one.
Junkyard - I may have autistic traits which is another developmental abnormality but no way do I have a personality disorder
Perhaps he could see the stats and work out what's really killing Americans
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
1,942 Dead in 47 Days
religious leaders uniting against him as well
"As Christian pastors and leaders, we are deeply concerned by the recently announced moratorium on refugee resettlement," the evangelicals' advertisement says. "As Christians, we have a historic call expressed over two thousand years, to serve the suffering. We cannot abandon this call now."
This in a full page advert in the press
personality disorder is not a mental illness! Its a developmental abnormality ie a wiring fault. Or you can call it a mental disorder but it is not an illness. You are born with it and you die with it and it cannot be treated or changed
Bollocks. People with BPD have good remission rates with treatment and it most certainly can be acquired, environmental causes are known to be a major factor and there are links with PTSD.
You're a good case for EBM being forcibly burned into the brains of medical staff...
Personality Disorder ? It's important to remember he was elected as he is more credible than Hilary
Perhaps we should all collectively pray for him and his disorder. We could all meet outside the US Enbassy and send the positive power of prayer to this poor man in his, and our, time of need
Personality Disorder ? It's important to remember he was elected as he is more credible than Hilary
unfortunately that is a low bar as a test, and may in time prove to have put the wrong person there, having said that both candidates were probably the wrong person
It's important to remember he was elected as he is more credible than Hilary
That is really nothing to shout about. I think Hannibal Lector would have been more credible than Hilary. Having said that, you need to remember that more people voted for Hilary than for Chump.
It's important to remember he was elected as he[s] is more credible than Hilary[/s] got in because of the odd US electoral system after losing the popular vote
It's important to remember he was elected [s]as he is more credible than Hilary got in[/s] because of the odd US electoral system after losing the popular vote and having had the support of the russians who it appears his staff colluded withI do find it odd that americans dont seem bothered by any of these facts - these should be no party political points as its not very democratic and cause for concern
The trump and his supporters would be livid, rightly so, if the situation were reversed and he had got the most votes and lost due to russian hacking and politically motivated FBI leaking.
The trump and his supporters would be livid, rightly so, if the situation were reversed and he had got the most votes and lost due to russian hacking and politically motivated FBI leaking.
And what would have been the response?
Tom - you really need to learn a little more before you go on ranting about stuff.
People with personality disorders cannot be detained under the mental health act because they do not have a " treatable mental illness"
People with personality disorders can be taught to mask the effects of them but they cannot be cured as it is a developmental abnormality like autism.
Edit - just realised I forgot the 2007 amendments to the Mental Health act that allows people with personality disorders to be detained under the act.
From an article in BJP
"The diagnosis and treatment of personality disorder continues to generate much controversy among psychiatrists. There is a strong view within the profession that people with personality disorder should not be considered treatable or, if at all treatable, that treatment should be offered only in specialised centres. Prevalence studies suggest that about 10–13% of the adult population in England and Wales have a personality disorder "