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Its worth remembering the Electoral college favours Republicans to a fair degree. It's how Trump managed to become president with 3 million fewer votes than Clinton.

The Senate is even more biased electorally because of how 2 Senators are allocated to each state.

There's an an interesting 3 part documentary on Netflix right now highlighting some of the "quirks" of the US electoral system. It actually makes our messed up FPTP system look fair and representative in comparison.


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 12:06 pm
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A Trump loss won’t be a clean break from his presidency for Americans.

His hard-core supporters are never going to accept him losing as legitimate.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/trump-will-leave-behind-harsh-political-landscape/616771/

Yet if Democrats win the presidency—and even both houses of Congress—their difficulties will burgeon the day Trump leaves office. Not only must they hold their own coalition together as they contend with the coronavirus and the economic crisis that it created, but they will face fierce opposition from the voters who support Trump despite everything. Far from being chastened into moderating the GOP’s rhetoric and cooperating with a new administration, the remaining elements of a vanquished Republican Party will likely become more extreme. It’s happened before.


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 12:15 pm
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p7eaven,

Since the stars n' bars has been banned from pretty much everywhere the racists have got to replace it with something.

Why not replace it with a flag that literally says 'we are a police state.'


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 12:42 pm
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isn’t it some kind of code violation to alter the stars and stripes?

From what I remember, there was an attempt at making flag burning a crime but the Supreme Court ruled that it was protected speech. This would be the same, I'm pretty sure.


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 12:50 pm
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From what I remember, there was an attempt at making flag burning a crime but the Supreme Court ruled that it was protected speech. This would be the same, I’m pretty sure.

Yeah, but the flag code isn't law, it's just basically "how to respect the flag 101". But we've seen in the past that all those flag-lovin' patriots don't care when Trump disresgards all that so this is no different

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Surely the “boo hoo, everyone is against me” narrative is starting to irritate even Republicans?

Nah, it's a win win for much of the demographic.

Poor republican: I'd have been a millionaire if it weren't for them libruls being against me personally!
Rich republican: My success is entirely through my own efforts and possibly god's will and comes despite the entire world being against me. "Dude you got sent to one of the best schools in the world, inherited a million dollars, then got hired by your daddy's firm" ALL MY OWN EFFORTS. I mean, this is literally Trump's schtick, it's totally laughable but people who like to say the same things even though it's equally laughable can never admit that so it works.

Sadly "we helped you get where you are and we'll help other people get where they want to go" doesn't play well in the US at all. Same applies here, a bit, but as ever they do the same stuff we do but to extremes.


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 2:23 pm
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The maniac!


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 3:00 pm
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Looks like Donald's fired up on roids for a trip around the south west today

Taking the piss out of Fauci (his distinguished record and something to do with throwing a ball which by all accounts Donald would be utterly shit at)

Calling CNN dumb bastards

Accusing Biden and a reporter of being a criminal

All very presidential. I guess he never read (or dot-to-dot or whatever they use to inform him) the campaign team memo about leaving the hard core Trumpists where they are and going after the floaters....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/oct/19/donald-trump-joe-biden-coronavirus-covid-19-us-election-live-updates


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 10:48 pm
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I don't think he's listening to anybody. He sacked any grownups and surrounded himself with nutters and lap dogs. He's running the campaign exactly as he sees fit and dissenting opinions aren't allowed.


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 11:17 pm
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and going after the floaters….

He probably thought that was a reference to his high fat diet


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 11:21 pm
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Cuomo joining in too. Been a crazy day

https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo/status/1318294439685705736


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 11:32 pm
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and going after the floaters….

Apparently a common side effect of steroid use.


 
Posted : 19/10/2020 11:37 pm
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Christ, I remember when serious people considered Rudy Giuliani as a credible potential presidential candidate.

https://twitter.com/jayblackisfunny/status/1318380234132099072


 
Posted : 20/10/2020 4:48 am
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The only good thing about that Giuliani tweet is that a few years ago the mix of positive/negative replies to that tweet would have been 50/50.  Now they are almost all negative.  It does feel like there is little appetite for that version of politics any more.


 
Posted : 20/10/2020 8:41 am
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Ballot drop box set on fire

https://abc7.com/ballot-drop-box-fire-vote-by-mail-election/7155522/


 
Posted : 20/10/2020 10:52 am
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Ballot drop box set on fire

https://abc7.com/ballot-drop-box-fire-vote-by-mail-election/7155522//blockquote >

The fact that we instantly know which party's supporter(s) did this is shocking. Are the Trumpers just accepting that they're are anti-democratic, now?


 
Posted : 20/10/2020 3:29 pm
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The fact that we instantly know which party’s supporter(s) did this is shocking

I'd like to think I'm assuming rather than knowing.


 
Posted : 20/10/2020 3:42 pm
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Just read the related story on that abc7 site: possibly old news but the Republicans are arguing that their illegal ballot boxes are in fact "legal" because it is "ballot harvesting", a process which they are fundamentally against. Huh?

https://abc7.com/ballot-boxes-fake-california-unofficial/7007826/


 
Posted : 20/10/2020 3:49 pm
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So I guess one big variable is how effective the voter suppression tactics will turn out to be.


 
Posted : 20/10/2020 4:13 pm
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jesus, I thought our ways were quaint, going to the local hall/scout hut, signing in, getting ticked off the list and then dropping your paper into the box.

Unattended ballot boxes? that's insane surely?


 
Posted : 20/10/2020 7:44 pm
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We now know how his son's book was a 'best seller'. Plus how to burn through $1bn.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-biden-donations-spending-election-impeachment-brad-parscale-b1176307.html?amp


 
Posted : 20/10/2020 9:45 pm
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$1.6 million on TV ads in Washington, DC, an overwhelmingly Democratic area where Mr Trump has little chance of winning but where he is a regular TV watcher.

****ing retarded.


 
Posted : 20/10/2020 11:03 pm
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Apparently, he stopped a 60 Minutes interview early and is now badmouthing Lesley Stahl. Another train-wreck I suspect. Stahl has had COVID I think?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1318644698341408769


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 12:05 am
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It obviously went well! She must have fact-checked him.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1318675787973840896


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 12:11 am
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Nothing surprises me anymore.

Had anyone else watched the Trump Show docs on the BBC? Only watched the first episode, but there was so much that I had long forgotten. Forgotten due to each wow moment being topped by the next wow moment.

I'm not sure I would be surprised by anything this **** does.

Might get a t-shirt printed saying "Trump is a berk" just for a laugh.


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 12:23 am
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How the **** can any decent human being vote for him? It astounds me.


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 12:36 am
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How the **** can any decent human being vote for him? It astounds me.

Decent (or at least decent and educated) human beings don't


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 12:43 am
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How the **** can any decent human being vote for him? It astounds me.

They don’t look at the bad stuff. ‘What can he do for me?’

That, of course, and a large number of people fall pretty short of ‘decent human being’


 
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A former Republican campaign manager said about how quickly and ineffectively Trump has spent $1bn: "ten monkeys with flamethrowers would not burn through that much money that quickly"

🙂


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 2:45 am
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dumbass


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 5:20 am
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They don’t look at the bad stuff. ‘What can he do for me?

It's not even that. It's "is he hurting the right people?"

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-voter-hes-not-hurting-the-people-he-needs-be-hurting-msna1181316

Seriously, I work with republican Pro-Trump Americans and they are absolutely a lost cause. They honestly believe that Democrats are evil incarnate doing the work of Satan himself; a bunch of baby-sacrificing Illuminati One World overlords. There's no convincing someone when that is their entrenched, firmly-held belief. It sounds ridiculous but that is my direct experience. I've had the conversations with them (or rather they have talked at me about it). I'm going to be stuck in the middle of them until November 5th and I'm honestly expecting some shit to go down if he doesn't win.


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 6:36 am
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$1.6 million on TV ads in Washington, DC, an overwhelmingly Democratic area where Mr Trump has little chance of winning but where he is a regular TV watcher.

**** retarded.

Thats the result of  him being trolled by The Lincoln Project.

Back when I used to run an arts venue a big cost for us (before the advent of the internet) was printing promotional material - routinely the poster/fliers/invites for an exhibition cost more to produce than the exhibition themselves. But it was broadly agreed that for an effective poster campaign you only needed to print three posters - one outside the venue, one as a keepsake for the artist and one placed somewhere that the chair of your board would see it. The rest were a glossy waste of money.

Trump's whole campaign machine is focused on an audience of one. People often query why his campaigning is targeted at his base rather than trying to win over new voters. But its not even targeted at his base - his campaign is addressed directly to him - the Lincoln Project routinely demonstrates that by placing single ads in programmes / channels/ areas where Trump will see them. They're not ads that are strategically placed to influence or appeal top voters they are placed just to irk him. When he sees that one ad he then demands, and gets,  a massive counter attack  to flood that marketing space with his message- that results in a big chunk of campaign resource being used for placing of pro trump ads on the programmes Trump watches, in the region where he will see them, which to a large extent is Washington DC.


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 7:55 am
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republican Pro-Trump Americans and they are absolutely a lost cause. They honestly believe that Democrats are evil incarnate doing the work of Satan himself; a bunch of baby-sacrificing Illuminati One World overlords.

Saw this the other night. Crazy times!


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 8:20 am
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They’re not ads that are strategically placed to influence or appeal top voters they are placed just to irk him. When he sees that one ad he then demands, and gets, a massive counter attack to flood that marketing space with his message

I want that job. What's the title 'Needler-in-chief'?


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 12:08 pm
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I want that job. What’s the title ‘Needler-in-chief’?

Bald head, glasses, goatee beard. He probably posts on here.


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 12:42 pm
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It’s “is he hurting the right people?”

In a few years, ask the 545 kids who were separated from their parents at the border, and whose details and family locations went unrecorded before the mothers or fathers were deported back to Central America. So there is little to no chance of them being reunited.

Just typing that is hurting my heart.

**** Trump, and **** the Republican party, and every voter who continues to enable them.


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 12:47 pm
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What a scary video.


 
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“ten monkeys with flamethrowers would not burn through that much money that quickly”

He's not familiar with the Conservative Party then?


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 1:11 pm
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jamze, saw that reported by The Hill - arf arf.
Moving on from that, how desperate are the GOP?
Read this... https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/522122-house-republicans-ask-amtrak-ceo-for-information-on-bidens-train-trips


 
Posted : 21/10/2020 10:58 pm
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Couldn't happen to a nicer chap 🙂 . I wonder how much dirt the Russians have on him if he's that easily fooled by a honeytrap.


 
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