Looks like Musk's $1m prizes/ giveaways/incentives/bribe might be blowing up in his face - looks like all the weaselling to skirt around rules preventing financial incentives to vote / register to vote and means he's fallen foul of lottery legislation instead
He seems to have stiffed a lot of the people who participated in his $47 registration bribes, apart from a handful who had payouts in cash delivered to their door for photo ops it seems non of the other participants have actually received any payouts
Anyone thinking the Hinchcliffe jokes will do any damage are deluded
There's actual audio footage of Trump boasting about assaulting women. He's a convicted felon. His conviction relates to an extra marital affair.
None of that has done any damage to his popularity. A joke by a 3rd party means nothing now.
Sadly, I think he wins next week with ease.
Sadly, I think he wins next week with ease.
Certainly early voting has been record breaking for Republicans, including in those swing states
Still hoping that dems will turn out to deny him there
With polls so close it's all about turnout
Anyone thinking the Hinchcliffe jokes will do any damage are deluded
Lets hope the Hispanic and other minorities were watching, I think trump has been making some surprising gains in those demographics, this should stop that at least.
What surprises me is how supportive the majority of the jewish community appear to be of him, they should know how fascists treat minority's. Once they are no more use to him in attacking the "left" he will turn on them probably deport them, and he will nuke Israel if it suits his agenda without hesitation. He is not their friend they are making a pact with the devil believing any good will come from their support of him in the future.
why does that ^ sound so familiar.... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c23kdjxxx1jo
That New York rally was truly unhinged. Absolutely terrifying! Even by the usual standards of the cross-eyed, six-toed MAGA headbangers. Elon Musk literally howling at the moon pretty much summed things up.
God only knows what will happen if Trump loses with all those tooled up loons already well and truly down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. There’s no way he, or they, will just concede the election. Not a chance.
There’s no way he, or they, will just concede the election. Not a chance.
I think a lot of Reps have already said they/he won't.
We could definitely see widespread violence if he loses.
The panorama expose on Trump is just starting on BBC2.
The CIA have destabilised and overthrown worse governments over the years than the Trump administration ever was or could be.
A nice parting shot would be Biden giving them unrestricted powers to operate domestically!
Your assumption that they’d be anti-Trump is horrifyingly deluded.
Your assumption that they’d be anti-Trump is horrifyingly deluded.
Yeah good point. While one of the key aims of Project 2025 is to effectively turn the US into a dictatorship, it is a pesky right wing one, so he's probably safe
Conspiracy theorists need to remember that all the text messages for the secret service agents in DC on January 6th ‘somehow’ got deleted
These Trump supporters on the Panorama programme are bloody terrifying.
A right wing simpleton who can be controlled via vanity and money is almost certainly a CIA wet dream - especially if he happens to be the one in control of their budget and power but is too stupid to understand either.
Well, that was a worrying programme to watch.
Has anyone candidate in their electoral history ever had this level of cult like devotion? Watching the panorama doc and it's staggering. They remind me of the clearly unhinged people that were obsessed with Michael Jackson and would follow him around and camp outside his hotel. Those people all seemed to have common traits
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Has anyone candidate in their electoral history ever had this level of cult like devotion? Watching the panorama doc and it’s staggering. They remind me of the clearly unhinged people that were obsessed with Michael Jackson and would follow him around and camp outside his hotel. Those people all seemed to have common traits
It really feels like the US and the world frankly, is on a very dangerous course if he wins.
Can you imagine watching this if you live in Ukraine? The poor sods are going to be shafted if he wins, after all the sacrifices they've made. Utterly tragic.
I would hope the damage is already done to the Hispanic votes
Unfortunately it seems the Hispanic community - or at least the 50-or-so Texas-located Mexicans I work with - vote along conservative religious lines, and that generally means whoever is standing for "the party of family values". I just hope that the recent Madison Square Garden thing might finally snap a few to their senses.
It is mind-boggling the amount of brainwashing going on over in the US. Some really, really clever people I work with, including young women, are all for Donald Trump because the "Demoncrat/adrenochrome harvesting/child-abuse/trans-rights/drag queens/migrant caravans/whatever other nonsense you can think of" story has been blasted at them 24/7 from their preferred news media for the last 8 years and they 100% believe it. Us Brits try talking to them about how DJT and the current Republican/MAGA party are perceived and they just wave it off because "the BBC is liberal fake news" and we can't possibly know what's really going on in the USA. It generally somehow then pivots to the UK's "muslim problem", how most UK cities are no-go areas for white people, how knife crime wouldn't be a thing if we were allowed guns, and that's why they're voting Donald Trump - because they don't want the US to go the same way.
It's equal parts exhausting, fascinating and horrifying.
how knife crime wouldn’t be a thing if we were allowed guns
How on earth can you counter that sort of "logic"?
He's right though, we'd have a gun problem instead.
The CIA have destabilised and overthrown worse governments over the years than the Trump administration ever was or could be.
A nice parting shot
fify
A hair parting shot
it seems the Hispanic community – or at least the 50-or-so Texas-located Mexicans I work with – vote along conservative religious lines
Yeah a significant number of south and central American immigrants fled left/communist dictatorships or regimes and are very pro republican as a result.
Nothing says you love your husband/ wife like an air kiss. 😀
Nothing says you love your husband/ wife like an air kiss. ?
And her hands placed in what’s likely to be an often used position to keep him at bay, saying that she’s quite a piece of work herself
It really feels like the US and the world frankly, is on a very dangerous course if he wins.
Really, why is that? So far as I am aware, Trump conducted no military strikes on other nations during his last stint in office, he started no wars, unlike some of his predecessors. He has stated that he is in favour of a peaceful, negotiated settlement in Ukraine. So where is your evidence for this apart from hearsay, hysteria and scaremongering from those who seek power for themselves?
That New York rally was truly unhinged. Absolutely terrifying! Even by the usual standards of the cross-eyed, six-toed MAGA headbangers. Elon Musk literally howling at the moon pretty much summed things up.
What parts in particular did you think were unhinged. By unhinged, I assume you mean 'Nazi' or 'Fascict'. What statements made do you believe were actually Nazi-like or fascict? Or do you simply take what you read in the Guardian, NYT or other far-left biased media as gospel, without seeking a balanced opinions on world issues?
right wing simpleton, racist, conspiracy theorist, etc.
Calling Trump supporters names does little apart from show to the world your own dreadful lack of awareness of the current issues affecting many US voters and why they might be disenfranchised by the current situation. Seemingly, there are some so far down the far-left rabbit hole, they are incapable of accepting that someone who has a different opinion to them might just have a valid point.
Really, why is that? So far as I am aware, Trump conducted no military strikes on other nations during his last stint in office, he started no wars, unlike some of his predecessors. He has stated that he is in favour of a peaceful, negotiated settlement in Ukraine. So where is your evidence for this apart from hearsay, hysteria and scaremongering from those who seek power for themselves?
Trump and his team launched over 60 strikes on Syria and Isis, set out the terms for the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. Increased US fence spending by 20%. Emboldened NK, Russia and Israel through his “diplomacy”. He destabilised 6 different regions of the world not including the USA.
What statements made do you believe were actually Nazi-like or fascict? Or do you simply take what you read in the Guardian, NYT or other far-left biased media as gospel, without seeking a balanced opinions on world issues?
Actually, it was the people that worked directly for Trump during the last administration that said he had fascist leanings.
Calling Trump supporters names does little apart from show to the world your own dreadful lack of awareness of the current issues affecting many US voters and why they might be disenfranchised by the current situation. Seemingly, there are some so far down the far-left rabbit hole, they are incapable of accepting that someone who has a different opinion to them might just have a valid point.
Trump is a simpleton. There’s no getting around this. He simply doesn’t understand even basic things like how planes fly, how boats float or how just because bleach kills things, that it’s not as simple as putting it inside people. Recent examples include Hydrogen cars “blow up, they just blow up” His supporters cheer at these statements. Draw your own conclusions if you like but what I glean from this is that they too don’t understand even many basic things and just want to rail against the things they dislike or the change they don’t want to see.
they too don’t understand even many basic things
To be fair, many may be fully capable of understanding if they were willing, but they prefer to surf the wave of populism
@Tallyhoe If you got a rational intelligent, impartial person to look at both candidates, sure they may disagree with some of Harris' policies, but I cant believe anyone would think Trump has the competence and morals to be president, judging by the things that he has said and done in the past, and the childish jibbering nonsense he comes out with at rallies.
Actually, it was the people that worked directly for Trump during the last administration that said he had fascist leanings.
I was asking for actual evidence that he has done, or intends to do something 'fascist', not just hearsay or the opinions of people who have either fallen out with Trump, or have biased or vested interests to stir the pot against him.
Do you have any actual evidence?
I notice that Trump has promised to release some official data held on the Epstein client list, including no doubt some very prominent people who visited Epstein's island on a regular basis. I wonder if this is why so many are keen to smear him? Smacks of desperation IMO.
If you got a rational intelligent, impartial person to look at both candidates, sure they may disagree with some of Harris’ policies, but I cant believe anyone would think Trump has the competence and morals to be president, judging by the things that he has said and done in the past, and the childish jibbering nonsense he comes out with at rallies.
Plenty of stuff gets presented out of context by the far-left media. You won't get presented with a balanced opinion from the Guardian, BBC, NYT etc. Same with the alternative right leaning media in their depiction of Harris. Trump is far more savvy than you have been led to believe by the bias media you consume.
What parts in particular did you think were unhinged. By unhinged, I assume you mean ‘Nazi’ or ‘Fascict’
No, because if I’d meant nazi or fascist, I’d have said that. I didn’t though, did I? I mean unhinged as in absolutely ****ing hatstand. Madder than a bucket of spiders. Demented. Completely unfit to be anywhere near high office.
I will leave the best appraisal of him to the definative commentators of our age - the Daily Star - who had the measure of him, perfectly, some years ago…
I was asking for actual evidence that he has done, or intends to do something ‘fascist’,
Well I think you are trying to put words into people's mouths there... But anyway.. there is this! he said when trying to overthrow the last election..
'We will never concede. It doesn't happen'
Text book fascism..
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
Do you have any actual evidence?
I notice that Trump has promised to release some official data held on the Epstein client list, including no doubt some very prominent people who visited Epstein’s island on a regular basis. I wonder if this is why so many are keen to smear him? Smacks of desperation IMO.
Evidence. Interesting. Trump has continually promised (as recently as his interview with JR) to produce evidence that the 2020 election was stolen. NOTHING has ever appeared.
Trump does not keep his promises.
What Trump believes and what is fact are two very, VERY different things.
You dont have to look far @tallyhoe
The enemy within is OG fascism
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/14/trump-military-enemy-within-armed-forces-election-day
He did the classic, the press are enemies of the people
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/trump-rally-man-attacks-journalists
He literally demanded that Georgias secretary of state find 11000 more votes because he refused to accept he lost the election there's a recording of the hour long phonecall and everything
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_phone_call
And on January 6th as his mob stormed the capital where he said "If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore". Repeating the lies about having the election stolen, despite him now knowing he lost
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#:~:text=Starting%20at%20noon%20on%20January,thousands%20of%20attendees%2C%20some%20armed%2C
As for epstein he was a close friend of the guy, partied and hung out with him, joked about him liking underage girls (he's made similar comments about young girls himself)
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-ties-jeffrey-epstein-stacey-williams-1974837
he's lied about his association with him and flew on his jet 7? times, even took his own kids to stay with him
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article256740662.html
Trump partying with underage models was not a secret
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/teen-models-powerful-men-when-donald-trump-hosted-look-of-the-year
The question is why you seem so supportive of a convicted felon, a rapist, best mate with a paedophile and wannabe fascist?
The media I consume is pretty balanced, and definitely not far left*
I didn't say he was an idiot, and agree he is very savvy with good political instincts, which is great for manipulating a crowd, but his understanding of policy and demonstrably immoral character are the opposite of what is needed when it comes to running a country in a way that benefits the maximum number of people.
*that phrase is a red flag and often used erroneously by Trump as a tool to skew reality.
Tallyhoe sounds exactly like the Americans I work with: demanding people provide evidence of Trump's failings rather than just opening their eyes to the literal mountains of evidence Trump himself, and those around him, have provided over the last decade or so. And then when anyone tries to do the legwork it's just dismissed as "extreme liberal woke-ism" or some similarly lazy excuse. That's what I meant when I said it was partly exhausting.
What is the meaning of sealioning?
What does sealioning mean? Sealioning is a critical term for a form of trolling that involves relentlessly pestering someone with questions and requests (such as for evidence or sources), typically with the goal of upsetting them and making their position or viewpoint seem weak or unreasonable.
Tallyhoe joined a matter of hours ago and makes 2 seemingly innocuous posts but the other 5 are in one of the most contentious threads on STW. It fits the usual pattern.
I suspect he isn't the new member he might appear to be.
Anyway, it's all good...
They're a hungry Troll. We could always let them starve?
Far left media
anyone responding to a 2hr old account opening with that needs to step away from the browser.
I suggest you leave it under its bridge.
Had anyone worked out who the new troll is yet? Similar writing style to some of the more recent trolls
Re. Examples of fascism, this sounds pretty fascist to me
Demented. Completely unfit to be anywhere near high office.
Much like Biden then who seemingly doesn't even know which year it is, and can currently barely even string a coherent sentence together. Or does this not matter to you because he has views you agree with?
Plenty of stuff gets presented out of context by the far-left media.
I would love to see some "far-left media". Any pointers as to where I may find it?
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/biden-stay-or-go/
An overwhelming 'go' if I remember correctly...
I would love to see some “far-left media”. Any pointers as to where I may find it?
In the UK start with the Bill Gates funded Guardian and perhaps work your way downhill from there.
Much like Biden then who seemingly doesn’t even know which year it is, and can currently barely even string a coherent sentence together. Or does this not matter to you because he has views you agree with?
Oh I see, in your efforts to read a wide range of media, you seem to have missed that Biden isn't on the ballot, I thought it had been rather widely reported, but I guess not on the truth social QAnon threads.
In the UK start with the Bill Gates funded Guardian...
Manchester Guardian or Northwich Guardian? I'm going to have to do my own research.
Re. Examples of fascism, this sounds pretty fascist to me.
Much like when they Democrats put pressure on social media to get Trump banned, which they did. Oh and the left wing (having had control of it themselves for years) now want to sensor and restrict Twitter. Because Twitter now at long last gives both sides of the political spectrum equal opportunities to free speech, so the left have thrown their toys out of the pram because their opinions are able to be challenged.
Censorship and forceable suppression of the opposition by the Democrats and the left. Nothing like fascism there according to your definition eh? Hypocrite.
Oh dear.
I'll pop back later I think.
Lol, twitter balanced?
Ok that's true if your world view skews firmly racist.
Much like Biden then who seemingly doesn’t even know which year it is, and can currently barely even string a coherent sentence together.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/most-bizarre-trump-rally-rants.html
But this guy is totally fine. Or does it not matter to you because he has views that you agree with?
There's an easy test to see if a source of information is balanced or not.
If they put out stories that agree with "your side", it's balanced! Otherwise it's a source of far-left/far-right misinformation.
@Tallyhoe - If the BBC is "Far Left" where does that leave the Socialist Worker?
Besides, their most senior political correspondent has an obviously right wing bias. The chair of their flagship debating program the same. The Director General was a Conservative Candidate and a member of the party.
In the UK start with the Bill Gates funded Guardian and perhaps work your way downhill from there.
The Guardian newspaper and The Global Development series are connected but are not the same thing.
Sounds like they are really on a sneaky mission to oppress poor Donald and the likes of Yaxley Lennon.
"Mission
To advance and inform public discourse and citizen participation around the most pressing issues of our time through the support of independent journalism and journalistic projects at the Guardian"
To advance and inform public discourse and citizen participation around the most pressing issues of our time through the support of independent journalism and journalistic projects at the Guardian”
If you actually believe that then you are even more gullible than I first thought possible.
DJT share price is up by 200% in a month! Presumably a lot of people confident he is going to win.
If you actually believe that then you are even more gullible than I first thought possible.
So what is The Guardian and Bill Gates really trying to do?
Apart from the paperclip, what harm has Bill Gates done and what is he trying/going to do?
He seems to use his immense wealth to try and help people, rather than sell dodgy, over priced watches and shoes?
What did we do to justify having our new right wing troll?
Or is it just one of the old ones, back under a new name?
Censorship and forceable suppression of the opposition by the Democrats and the left. Nothing like fascism there according to your definition eh? Hypocrite
Trump censored himself by breaking twitters terms of service, or do you think the Jan 6th coup attempt was legitimate and the election really was stolen ?
So what is The Guardian and Bill Gates really trying to do?
Apart from the paperclip, what harm has Bill Gates done and what is he trying/going to do?
He seems to use his immense wealth to try and help people, rather than sell dodgy, over priced watches and shoes?
Bill Gates, uses his foundation and philanthropy to avoid tax, and also to influence public policy that benefit his own investments and personal beliefs. Apparently he made a 20x return on his investment in vaccine manufacturers just before the pandemic and used his influence and foundation to pressure everyone, via Gavi and the WHO to get vaccinated. The situation in India is just one small tip of his corrupt, self serving iceberg:
https://thediplomat.com/2021/06/why-are-indians-so-angry-at-bill-gates/
Suggest you all need to open your eyes to reality.
Apart from the paperclip, what harm has Bill Gates done and what is he trying/going to do?
Isn't Microsoft somehow responsible for Comic Sans? That should carry a sentence of life imprisonment, at the very least
Yes, because a twitter ban is exactly the same as throwing people in jail or wishing them executed
They have been trying to throw Trump in jail incase you haven't noticed. Tried to remove him from ballots too. Lawfare at it's most undemocratic.
that someone who has a different opinion to them might just have a valid point.
I think many Americans (like folks here) have reason to be pissed off with the current state of affairs. The answer to startling few of those problems is "vote for Trump" though.
Wow, this has made an interesting early morning read. I'd love to know what @Tallyhoe thinks of Putin.
The way I've managed to stay out of jail is by not committing any crimes. Maybe he should try that?
If he's gonna win the election he may as well rack up as many crimes as he likes as his handpicked, extreme right wing, judiciary won't prosecute him. Seems some are above the law.
Oh look STW has its own Putin bot.
Do you think he's/its a bot? or re-named member? I mean, it's quite good fun, the poor thing is clearly deranged. How far could we push it? Enough to blow up a Bot farm just outside Moscow? or just give him a bit of heart burn?
If the BBC is “Far Left”.......
No one actually believes that the BBC is far-left, what is the point of engaging with someone who claims that it is?
Tallyho isn't going to listen to a counter claim and respond with "oh yeah, that's true, you've got me there".
It would be epic if a joke at a Trump rally loses him the swing states. Epic!
Puerto Ricans in must-win Pennsylvania say Trump rally joke won’t be forgotten
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgj7689v757o
They have been trying to throw Trump in jail
Is that they same "they" that prosecuted Hunter Biden? The same "they" that investigated Hilary over the email server?
Sounds like "they" do the job required of them which is to investigate crimes, charge if required, and seek a conviction, regardless of political allegiance