Ten instances of contempt of court...and counting...
No normal person would be allowed to get away with that, and not get at least a few days in jail for their insolence.
Reading between the lines I think the Judge(s) are making a huge point of being very lenient with him to ensure there's no political comeback from this...there's absolutley no way he can say he's been treated unfairly...it stinks but I understand the rationale.
If Trump is thrown in jail for contempt, will that delay this trial or will it carry on in his absence?
Or will he just be jailed overnight/outside court appearance time?
If Trump is thrown in jail for contempt, will that delay this trial or will it carry on in his absence?
Or will he just be jailed overnight/outside court appearance time?
You can still go to court in the US if your are in jail..it just means you'll be in shackles and an orange jump-suit for your hearing. Same as anyone else who can't pay bond for unpaid speeding fines or whatever.
It's impossible for him to argue he's being treated unfairly, if anything, he's being treated a million times better than the average man.
No normal person would be allowed to get away with that, and not get at least a few days in jail for their insolence.
Anyone who can be a leader of a country is not a normal person.
Reading between the lines I think the Judge(s) are making a huge point of being very lenient with him to ensure there’s no political comeback from this…
If the judge(s) thinks he should not have a political comeback then the judge(s) can resign, and should not consider themselves as judge(s). i.e. if they cannot be impartial or politically motivated then the judge(s) are just as flaw the person being judged.
there’s absolutley no way he can say he’s been treated unfairly…it stinks but I understand the rationale.
The jury will have to decide and the lawyers will be very rich; and it's all political.
It’s impossible for him to argue he’s being treated unfairly, if anything, he’s being treated a million times better than the average man.
If he is treated a million times better than the average man, the system is corrupted and the judge(s) are unfit.
Trump actually wants it, I think. Playing the martyr card and promising vengeance is pretty much his entire campaign.
I pity the prison officer who’s tasked with asking trump to bend over and spread his cheeks
I pity the prison officer who’s tasked with asking trump to bend over and spread his cheeks
I would like to see them jail a former President.
Wouldn't we all....
I would like to see them jail a former President.
I thought you were a fan. What has he done to upset you? 🙂
I thought you were a fan. What has he done to upset you? 🙂
You need to read it in a slightly different way as a challenge. i.e. a dare.
Anyone is better than an evil Biden who is trying to start a WWIII before he gets 6 feet under.
Trump might like to grab the "cat" but he ain't trying to dominate the world by force in the name of peace.
Anyone is better than an evil Biden who is trying to start a WWIII before he get 6 feet under.
Are you being satirical as I genuinely don't know?
Alcohol
Anyone is better than an evil Biden
MTG called, she has some new material for you
Can I just thank everyone that is ruining MTG as a game?
THANKS!
What, Hasbro?
He's already flipped out about Daniels being called & his lawyers not getting enough notice she'd be appearing (he rapidly deleted his Truth Social post but the internet never forgets) even though she had always been on the list a s a potential witness.
And yes I think he's more worried about more humiliating revelations about wee Donnie, than losing this case, because he loves to play the victim
https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/1787842411822997540
Is that enough to get him locked up? ^^^
I hope he brought a toothbrush to court.
It probably is, but despite what chewk says trump will get away with it because the jusdges are letting him get away with stuff that would see anyone else locked up
I also think having Daniels on the stand is going to increase the likelihood of him doing more silly stuff
Stormy has been on the whiteness list for a year or so, so no surprises there, Donnie 🤷♂️
Also it’s the prosecutions prerogative as to if they inform the defence about the witness order etc, considering Trumps proclivity to witness tampering, it’s no surprise that the prosecution has declined - hoist by your own petard you idiot 🤦🏻♂️
trump will get away with it because the jusdges are letting him get away with stuff that would see anyone else locked up
Of course they are. There's very few other defendants for whom the threat of slinging them in jail might cause rioting, violence and injury, perhaps even death(s). Judge's got to take that into account. As much as it'd be amusing to watch, his supporters would likely pile onto the streets all over the US.
Reminded him of his daughter
🤮
well the orange shitgibbon well not like this...
I just think I blacked out – I was not drunk I was not drugged … I just don’t remember.
She says at some point, she ended up on the bed having sex with Trump.The next thing I know is I was on the bed, somehow on the opposite side of the bed from where we had been standing, I had my clothes and my shoes off ... we were in missionary position.
She said she “was staring up at the ceiling and didn’t know how I got there”.“Was he wearing a condom?” the prosecution asked. Daniels said: “No.”
“Was that concerning to you?” Daniels replied: “Yes.”
Did you say anything about it? Daniels said: “I didn’t say anything at all.”
And was it brief? “Yes.”
Is that not a description of rape? or is there more to the testimony where he gets consent?
Yep sounds very non-consential
Aparently Daniels has always said it was consential
Of course they are. There’s very few other defendants for whom the threat of slinging them in jail might cause rioting, violence and injury, perhaps even death(s). Judge’s got to take that into account. As much as it’d be amusing to watch, his supporters would likely pile onto the streets all over the US.
That has zero bearing on whether someone should be jailed or not. He’s so far past the line and has been for months. Stick him in for as long as the judge wants, it is past time.
You can’t decide someone’s punishment for a crime depending if there’ll be some upset people, it just doesn’t work that way
Anyone having a little riot as a result will be held to account - unlike Trump.
Anyone who can be a leader of a country is not a normal person.
Seem to be narcissists, sociopaths or psychopaths in a lot of cases. A normal person would be a refreshing ****ing change of pace!
Seem to be narcissists, sociopaths or psychopaths in a lot of cases. A normal person would be a refreshing **** change of pace!
Unless you’re half of American it seems…..
You can’t decide someone’s punishment for a crime depending if there’ll be some upset people, it just doesn’t work that way
Of course it can work that way, it's more that often it shouldn't. Including in this case.
BBC are reporting the classified documents trial has been "delayed indefinitely" by Trump-appointed Judge Cannon. Well, that's a surprise...
At their son's graduation. Any body language experts here?
She is thinking through the last parts of her escape plan,while the manchild is begging her to hold his hand.
😆 🤣 😂
Justice Samuel Alito (SCOTUS) is in the midst of an impartiality row
Flying the US flag upside down outside your home is a symbol of protest by Trump supporters and he's drawn fire from Senator Dick Durbin, amongst others, and should recuse himself from associated cases,
“Flying an upside-down American flag—a symbol of the so-called ‘Stop the Steal’ movement—clearly creates the appearance of bias. Justice Alito should recuse himself immediately from cases related to the 2020 election and the January 6th insurrection, including the question of the former President’s immunity in U.S. v. Donald Trump, which the Supreme Court is currently considering." https://www.durbin.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/durbin-calls-on-justice-alito-to-recuse-himself-from-cases-related-to-the-2020-election-after-a-stop-the-steal-symbol-was-displayed-in-his-yard
Clarance Thomas somehow manages not to recuse himself even though his wife, Ginny 'release the kraken' Thomas is a prominent Stop the Steal campaigner who directly lobbied the Whitehouse to overturn the election results.
Won't happen in either case as the code of conduct that federal judges are bound by in terms of having to step back from any case they have personal involvement or interest .... doesn't apply to members of Supreme Court. Pretty much non of the safeguards or duties accociated with holding public office apply to them. They don't have to recuse themselves from anything, they don't have to declare financial interests and donations, non of the measures apply to them as they are all irrelevant - because they can't be sacked.
What you can be sure of though - if Trump is elected.... the the second he's elected, Alito and Thomas will retire for no reason other than to allow the Heritage Foundation to install the youngest two maga-patsies they possibly can. Until then they'll drop heavy hints about retiring - Thomas in particular - becuase every time he talks about how hard being a Judge is and how horrible life in politics is more of his mortgages magically pay themselves, and another relative gets their education paid for and another massive free motorhome turns up at his front door. He will of course be just as well looked after for throwing the towel in next year.
As one trial reaches its conclusion the next starts to warm up..... Turns out even more classified documents were found in his bedroom at Mar-a-largo, discovered by his lawyers 4 months after the FBI bathroom raid and Trump staff had been scanning them and keeping copies on their own laptops. Mar a Largo staff had been instructed by Trump to avoid security cameras when moving the boxes of documents around the resort
The Trump campaign is currently trying to fundraise off the Documents case and has seized upon a bit of small print in the original search warrant that states the FBI are authorised to use 'deadly force in appropriate circumstances'. It standard text in any warrant but trump is spinning it as specific to him and as Biden having hired the FBI to assassinate Trump.
It does however explain why Trump smells bad and has been unable to keep his eyes open in court - he's been dead since August 2022. Because in his email to donors he states 'They were authorised to shoot me. I nearly escaped death'
The last two years of his campaign has been one long Weekend at Bernie's
Nikki Haley has announced that she'll be voting for Donald Trump.
She's stopped short of exhorting her supporters to vote that way too and says that "Trump would be smart to reach out to the millions of people who voted for me and continue to support me, and not assume that they’re just going to be with him."
It isn't over yet...
The nut jobs in Congress are proper lining up behind this FBI Mar Lago assassination thing. Soooo dangerous.
Same wording used on the warrant to search Bidons premises 🤷♂️ It won’t matter to the Magadonians though 🤦🏻♂️
I think you are correct and i don't think there is the tiniest chance he will ever be jailed. I'm guessing that the timing of all of this is just to keep him tied down in court cases and to fill the news with negative info. about him. Remember it is never about convincing the people who have already decided, it's about moving the swing voters.
Trump only has himself to blame for the timing of the trial, he’s used many delaying tactics and that’s why we’re finally having the trial now.
So 34? Charges he's going to be found guilty on a at least some of them
He will cry witch hunt & appeal & claim that he's exonerated
Will it change much though?
Will it change much though?
Nope, dickheads will still support and vote for him, same as our dickheads in this country will continue to support and vote for Sunak/starmer
What's going on with that massive fine he couldn't pay a few months ago? I know the amount of bond got reduced, but was still pretty spicy. Did he raise it?
Not heard anything else so I'm guessing he paid it from his own float as it was manageable...plus his last attempt at getting a bond seemed.to prove disastrous so suspect he is too ashamed to go with begging hand round them all again.
No real idea, just my naïve thinking...
How much is this farce costing? Everyone knows he’s never going to prison and his fanbase is too delusional to think he could ever be guilty of anything. The very best outcome is that he drops dead from the stress of it all.
The very best outcome is that he drops dead from the stress of it all.
What's your point caller?
There is a chance he could get a spell in prison - there'll be appeals and it won't sway his core voters, but it is a real chance if convicted.
And if he carries on ignoring court orders someone will get bored of fining him
The very best outcome is that he drops dead from the stress of it all.
I think he's correct. No outcome where he walks away free, capable of being elected or incarcerated and becomes a martyr is a good outcome for democracy and a world sanity. Basically he needs to do an Elvis - only hopefully with even more humiliation to discredit his legacy.
The man has done more than enough to be an irrelevance if the voting public could be trusted to vote with any decency and intelligence. Too many have proved they are incapable of doing that so sadly, so Trump needs to leave this mortal coil under his own steam.
There is a chance he could get a spell in prison – there’ll be appeals and it won’t sway his core voters, but it is a real chance if convicted.
And if he carries on ignoring court orders someone will get bored of fining him
I would love to be wrong but I’m 99.9% sure I’m not. He’s not going to prison. If he drops dead it stops the entire clown show and no more publicity for Teflon Don. People have been saying he’ll go to prison for a crime, contempt of court, failure to stick to the terms of gag orders or for nonpayment of fines for a large portion of this very thread and what’s happened? Absolutely **** all! The man incited an insurrection and got away with it. Spends the majority of his waking life talking absolute shite and nothing of any real consequence ever happens to him. Other than being elected President and having a chance of that happening again.
He 100% won't be doing chokey
Best you can hope for is a care home
Old man, no previous convictions and a logistical nightmare if is is locked up (no prisoner governor will want him).
No chance at all he is being sent to prison. A fine and home detention order at best.
Edit:Ignore.
I is excited!
Is a short verdict time good or bad for him?
I really wish there was a live feed to the court
Guilty on the first count at least!
GUILTY!
Count 1 - guilty
Guilty on all counts!
Guilty on all counts. It's going to get messy.
Yeeeeeesssssss!!!
Good, does that mean he's led away with the black hood over his head to await his judgement under god on death row?, he's bigly buds with the big guy upstairs so that may go his way
A glass of F U Is about to be poured and enjoyed.
TRUTH SOCIAL IS ABOUT TO BE FLOODED WITH WHINING
thats all.
Sad thing is I am not sure how much it will matter. Whilst I am not sure he would get away with shooting someone on 5th avenue anything short of that I reckon the party of disorder would support him.
Great result, wasn't totally sure it would happen.
According to the reporter on the BBC he can still run for office from a jail cell. Plus ca change!
GUILTY!
Sentencing July 11.
Not expecting that BUT does that mean we get farage back? best if they share a cell really