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He's a chameleon who changes his mind to match what people want to hear. Before he ran for Pres. he was advocating banning assault rifles, so this latest statement is still a watering down of that.

I think he's trying to play the good guy, despite knowing he, and other Reps, won't actually do much to force it through. At least it looks as if he's tried.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:41 pm
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What amazes me now is that politics is so locked up that business leaders are having to take the moral lead,  I could never have imagined that.  Weird times


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:48 pm
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It is business leaders funnelling funds into politics that is ****ing it up, paying politicians to act against the benefit of broader society for the benefit of the greedy. Just because a few are speaking out and/or doing the right thing doesn't mean that business in general has discovered a new morality. Just follow the money.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 12:57 pm
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Business in general, no, but we'll well done to those who are.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 1:18 pm
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Just follow the money.

The NRA reportedly spent over $5 million on lobbying in 2017.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 1:29 pm
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Just because a few are speaking out and/or doing the right thing doesn’t mean that business in general has discovered a new morality. Just follow the money

Except the leaders who come out of the tech side and new businesses that didn't exist are not from the old mould. Gates and Jobbs were early on there, now Google, Amazon etc wield more power and influence but don't come from the same production line of corporate men.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 1:42 pm
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Except the leaders who come out of the tech side and new businesses that didn’t exist are not from the old mould. Gates and Jobbs were early on there, now Google, Amazon etc wield more power and influence but don’t come from the same production line of corporate men.

really, if that was the case they would only too gladly pay their fair share of tax and not maximize profits for the benefit of shareholders.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 1:46 pm
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nice summary

I spent years as a foreign correspondent in Latin America. To say we are being governed like a banana republic is an insult to banana republics. It’s that bad, and no one should pretend otherwise.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 8:26 pm
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It isn't the fact that America is being run like a banana republic that really bothers me, it is the fact that not one single European leader is willing to stand up and call it like it is. Bunch of worthless suck ups.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 8:32 pm
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<p class="tweet-body" dir="ltr" lang="en">@JunckerEU to reporters in Hamburg on #Trump #steeltariffs: “We will not sit idly when European industry and jobs are threatened. #EUpreparing import duties for US products including Harley-Davidson, Bourbon and Levi’s jeans.” pic.twitter.com/iFiZJEgBTi</p>
March 2, 2018

Think macron and Merkel stood up to him more than May- even she rebuked him over the whatever the UK racist tweets and his false flag Muslim BS

Reality is most leaders tolerate the leaders of countries they dont like and ignore personalities for the greater good of the country. Heck if i was PM even i would try to be nice to him [ or insult him less]...i suspect I would fail.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 10:11 pm
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Saw a lovely stat today... Total number of people employed in the US steel industry, 140000. Total number of people employed in steel-using industries- 6.5 million. Trade wars are good, and easy to win!

Hands up everyone else who thinks steel products will get more expensive, executives and shareholders in US steel will trouser a quick bonus as they smash their prices up overnight by 25%, everyone else pays the price.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 4:43 am
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One of his ex advisers sold  his holdings in steel using companies in a few days BEFORE the tariff announcement.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 7:39 am
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As tjagain says:

https://boingboing.net/2018/03/02/trump-pal-carl-icahn-dumped-3.html


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 1:51 pm
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Now there seems to be Russian connections to the NRA and to Trump...

http://uk.businessinsider.com/nra-russia-ties-scrutiny-alexander-torshin-butina-trump-2018-3?r=US&IR=T


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 12:58 am
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Tramp has tweeted that Xi Jinpings' grab for lifelong power is something he thinks might be good for the USA...

Just a thought: we tend to assume that a mature democracy is the end point of political evolution, a la Francis Fukuyama and his "End of History" thesis.

Taking the long view however, gives a different, more fluid perspective.  Russia and China, both of them political dictatorships are burgeoning, whilst Western democracies seem to be on the decline and Nationalism seems on the rise everywhere.

The Roman Empire started off as a Republican democracy of the aristocratic class representing the needs of it's people, but collapsed relatively quickly into  Dictatorship under the Cæsers. I see no reason why the cycle cannot repeat itself today.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 10:27 am
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Russia is 'burgeoning'?

Rome was a democracy? Who new?


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 11:14 am
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Tramp has tweeted...

It was part of a speech and he was joking...


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 11:17 am
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Russia is ‘burgeoning’?

Rome was a democracy? Who new?

1: Militarily. You hadn't noticed?

2: Read my previous qualification and try to remember it.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 11:38 am
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It was part of a speech and he was joking…

He was? It’s so difficult to tell, sometimes.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 3:31 pm
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You have to admit, some of his lines in that speech were quite funny, although some of them have you wondering if he's joking or not.

"My staff was concerned that I couldn't do self-deprecating humor, and I told them not to worry, nobody does self deprecating humor better than me,"

"Before I get started, I wanted to apologize for arriving a little bit late. You know, we're late tonight because Jared could not get through the security,"


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 3:36 pm
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Just follow the money.

The NRA reportedly spent over $5 million on lobbying in 2017.

I've heard it said before (and a quick google seems to confirm it) that $5 million doesn't represent a lot in terms of money spent in the states on political lobbying. For context "Big Pharma" spends $240 million lobbying politicians each year, according to google. It's likely that the NRA's $5 million doesn't really buy much, and that the reality is that gun ownership is just a core issue for a certain cross section of voters that it's toxic to meddle with on some level.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 4:14 pm
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“My staff was concerned that I couldn’t do self-deprecating humor, and I told them not to worry, nobody does self deprecating humor better than me,”

If only Americans could understand the concept of irony.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 4:35 pm
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I’ve heard it said before (and a quick google seems to confirm it) that $5 million doesn’t represent a lot in terms of money spent in the states on political lobbying. For context “Big Pharma” spends $240 million lobbying politicians each year, according to google. It’s likely that the NRA’s $5 million doesn’t really buy much, and that the reality is that gun ownership is just a core issue for a certain cross section of voters that it’s toxic to meddle with on some level.

Nope! The NRA are definitely a big part of maintaining the status quo, although the archaic and misguided views of many gun-toting Americans don't help.

The NRA donated $21m to Trump's campaign and $7m to McCain before that. Not to mention the fact that many Republican Senators have received donations from the NRA in the millions over the years.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/23/politics/nra-political-money-clout/index.html


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 6:19 pm
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Some of the figures are a little different to those I've read previously, but you get the gist.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 7:27 pm
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Heck if i was PM even i would try to be nice to him [ or insult him less]…i suspect I would fail.

Nah - I bet you'd have fun insulting him in ways which made him think you were being nice.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 8:15 pm
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well it worked on you - wink goes here no idea how to do them.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 8:35 pm
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Watched 'The Final Year' - fly on the wall documentary about Obama's administration on it's way out.

It's clear why (under their peculiar system) there were enough Americans pissed off enough to vote in the Orange Nightmare.

Obama and his team come across as a bunch of well-meaning naifs, all good intentions but without any nouse about how the world shakes, clearly played for suckers by the likes of Putin and Xi through the ridiculous John Kelly.

The whole thing is about what they obviously saw as their overriding motivations - their foreign policy evangelism on the one hand and shock at why nobody "was talking about it but were talking about Trump's tweets" on the other...

They forgot Clinton's dictum - "it's the economy, stupid".


 
Posted : 07/03/2018 10:13 am
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Gotta be pretty bad in there with that sort of turnover.

Anyway I still don't think he's implemented the Russian sanctions the house agreed and the new other Steele memo doesn't bode well if its the real deal.

Its amazing how so far hes got away with it TBH.


 
Posted : 08/03/2018 9:32 am
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if the Bawbag is a russian agent, in Smiley parlance, who's his russian contact/runner ? has Putin  had him start a three way  china-US-EU trade war under the US first cover ?


 
Posted : 08/03/2018 10:14 am
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Russian agent is a bit too much there, in place because of the chaos he is creating which is helping Russia is way more plausible.


 
Posted : 08/03/2018 10:19 am
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Nah he's the textbook definition of a useful idiot for Putin.

Hope Hicks admitted to senate hearing that she told white lies for trump, also claimed 2 of her email accounts hacked, presumably absolving herself of anything dodgy she definitely didn't send/receive 😉


 
Posted : 08/03/2018 10:28 am
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The Stormy Daniels thing keeps getting better.


 
Posted : 08/03/2018 10:45 am
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Are we going to have a Clinton (bill) moment here where we have to define what constitutes putting it in a porn star


 
Posted : 08/03/2018 10:54 am
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I always had Kushner down as the most likely foreign agent.


 
Posted : 08/03/2018 11:02 am
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international womens day nort being celbrated in the whitehouse I suspect as thers a Storm a-brewin!


 
Posted : 08/03/2018 11:38 am
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And now Trump is going to meet l'il Kim. I suspect that he is being played by a far more astute politician.


 
Posted : 09/03/2018 11:47 am
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And now Trump is going to meet l’il Kim. I suspect that he is being played by a far more astute politician.

I was thinking along the same lines. Likely that the South Korean comment that it was "the Trump administration's hard line that forced NK into talking" is playing to Trump's ego.

Once NK had nuclear weapons and a demonstrable means of delivering them, even if that would mean effective suicide for the regime, then they have a big enough stick to bring to the table to get what they want or close to what they want. It was a question of when rather than if it would happen. Having a naive ego in charge of the US makes this a good time to make their move. There'll be no NK regime change, dictators create too many enemies within their own country for that to happen, but they'll offer something that they don't really need (ICBMs) in return for something that they do.


 
Posted : 09/03/2018 11:56 am
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Trump mistakes mans father for Joe Cocker...

https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2018/03/09/donald-trump-tells-man-dead-dad-proud-cringiest-funniest-16-seconds-week/


 
Posted : 09/03/2018 12:02 pm
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Likely that the South Korean comment that it was “the Trump administration’s hard line that forced NK into talking” is playing to Trump’s ego.

Apparently, the NK leaders have been trying to meet the US president since the 1990s. As you say, developing nuclear weapons has been a terrifying yet effective strategy for them, ensuring they don't go the way of Saddam Hussein.


 
Posted : 09/03/2018 12:06 pm
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Incredibly bizarre and dangerous turn up. There's little time to prepare, there have been no pre-summit talks, so the outcome isn't clear, there are factions of the NK government who will not under any circumstances roll back on development of nuclear weapons. The US government haven't had an ambassador in the peninsula since Trump took over, all the Korean experts have retired or won't work with the administration, and both Russia and China haven't been invite

world politics by guesswork and make-it-up as you go along "diplomacy"...


 
Posted : 09/03/2018 12:16 pm
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Bizarre sure but I don't see it as dangerous - I think either it will get called off last minute or it will just be for show and nothing really comes of it. Maybe some deals get done but they'll soon fall apart in reality and everything will return to the current farcical facing off and posturing. Kim just wants sanctions lifted for a while so he's not undermined at home, they'll still keep developing nukes they just won't test them (outside of computer sims) until they've recovered enough from the sanctions that they can afford to start the merry-go-round again


 
Posted : 09/03/2018 12:47 pm
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Talk about getting into hot water by letting your d**k rather than your brain be in charge:

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/08/opinions/stormy-daniels-trump-lawsuit-could-be-trouble-rangappa-opinion/index.html

Looking increasingly like an un-winnable situation  for DT!

(Although frankly, for Trump, he has probably more smarts in his d**k than his Head......)


 
Posted : 09/03/2018 12:54 pm
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Its hardly news that  thrice married president pussy grab is  unfaithful to his wives but as usaul its the cover up not the offence that will cause him ,. and his lawyer, the most problems.


 
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