ugly outside as well. Looks like a barbie doll. No facial expressions bar a sneer. she looks like she would melt if you put a flame to her.
I was surprised how old she is now. Her face seems frozen in time.
I know how wrong it is, I know she is ugly inside. I know I should be ashamed. But I can’t help it, I find Ivanka quite hot.
Youre allegedly not alone, heres what Donald himself had to say...
“Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside, and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that prompted Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,” writes Miles Taylor, a former chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trumps-lewd-talk-about-daughter-ivanka-in-front-of-white-house-staff-recalled-in-new-book/
^^ Yuck, Trumps one odd character on so many levels.
I was surprised how old she is now. Her face seems frozen…
FTFY
Not entirely sure why some are demanding that Biden be removed, seeing that the American economy and jobs have improved significantly under his watch, despite everything that the lying tangerine turd keeps claiming.
I hope tantrum toddler has all of his statement properties confiscated, including his golf course in Scotland, and ends up in solitary confinement for most of the rest of his life.
There is clearly a defective gene in the trumps which affects their memories.
Yes, I know they are all 100% defective but the memory problem must merit lobotomies all round.
count - because of the polling that shows he is ot popular, too old an there is no enthusiasm for him and that Trump would win an election now
Surely the Democrats can find a better candidate? there must be able folk with good appeal in the party?
There are people out there by all accounts, problem is that many of them would be strong candidates in 2028 rather than now. Anyone know what’s happened to Beto O’Rourke who was being talked up four years ago?
You have to hand it to the court sketch artist 
Well, that’s my Christmas presents sorted 😳I'm actually surprised that any hotel kept the Trump branding this long.
https://twitter.com/Meidas_LaurenA/status/1723186813660193123
If only there was some truth in that; I very much doubt there is.
I’ve just found an update from Snopes, who’ve done a fact-check, and they’ve listed it as satire. Bugger, I was so hoping it would be true. *sigh* 😕
Its unlikely to be foreclosed on but he could lose control of it if the NY case goes badly. It is not a residence officially but a members club and cannot be and he only has the ability to live there as an employee of Trump corporation or what ever its called.
Its all very complex but newsweek ( and I do not know how reliable that entity is) is saying he could lose control
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-mar-lago-fraud-trial-testimony-1842357
It is not a residence officially but a members club and cannot be and he only has the ability to live there as an employee of Trump corporation or what ever its called.
I can't see any official, anywhere in Florida, trying to evict him though. Unfortunately 😕
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Is he really that stupid?
https://twitter.com/Meidas_LaurenA/status/1729986584026771750
Honest question - is that legal?
Damn it! Opened again hoping he was dead.
Honest question – is that legal?
The judge as appointed an auditor to run Trump's businesses while they decide how much to fine him, and decide whether they are going to take away his business licences, Trump is supposed to tell the auditor what he's doing all the time. So, no it's not legal for Trump to do that.
Honest question – is that legal?
Depends on 'quietly' means without fanfare, ore means 'secretly'. And also depends on whether 'caught' in this context means the auditor happened across the transaction through investigation or was notified and reported as part of their duties. If you are the owner of a company you can move funds to your personal account as a wage, - pay yourself for the work you do for the company, as a 'dividend' - your share of the profits before tax, or as a 'directors loan' - ie the company loans you money and you have to pay it back. Directors Loans can go in either direction as directors might sometimes loan their company money to assist it also. All those things are fine so long as they are documented, and the company can actually afford to do them. So you can't take out dividends greater than the pre-tax profits that leave the company unable to pay its tax bill for instance. Theres also the question as to who other than Trump owns the company - he can only take out dividends relating to his share of the profits also if you pay out dividends to one shareholder you have pay out the proportional profits to all the others at the same time.
There's a court appointed auditor whom they have tell if they move more than $5M from anywhere to anywhere else, so there's that.
Gag order in NY fraud case re-instated.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/30/politics/new-york-appeals-court-reinstates-gag-order-against-donald-trump-in-civil-fraud-trial/index.html
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Trump caught moving $50 million from the Trump Org into his own account.
Mary Trump has noticed a damning detail in Ivanka’s testimony!
To summarize CZ article above: Ivanka testified the Mandarin Mussolini borrowed money from his kids to inflate his wealth when applying for loans
I've no idea whether that's legal
I'm no expert on NY property development financing but I think it's borderline illegal.
Difficult to see the judge not giving that some weight when he decides how big a hammer to use.
I suspect it's a small enough detail not to carry much weight against the other stuff? Considering that the case has also heard examples of just plain making it up.
vlad_the_invader
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To summarize CZ article above: Ivanka testified the Mandarin Mussolini borrowed money from his kids to inflate his wealth when applying for loansI’ve no idea whether that’s legal
I bet if you were a small business owner over there and you pulled that crap you'd likely be in a fair bit of trouble.
Just like here though, I'm no longer naive enough to think we all live under the same laws, irrelevant of who we are.
I think it's more an issue for the kids than Trump. It's already been established that there has been fraud. What the court case is establishing is who in the company was complicit and how they should be sanctioned. The young trumps have all been claiming they are innocent of any wrong doing as all they did was sign stuff and trust that the accountants were doing the right and honest thing. What Ivanka (who isn't a defendant in the case, she's only a witness) is saying is that those kids actively participated - moving money around in order to create an illusion of the company's financial position. So more than simply mis-stating a financial position (saying you think a property is worth X, or in their case signing something you sat you haven't read that says a property is worth X, or the company is worth Y) but actively creating a misleading evidence. The accountants wouldn't have had the access to Trumnp family personal bank accounts to take money and let it rest in the Trump Orgs account.
Judge rejects trump attempt to throw out election subversion case.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/01/politics/trump-presidential-immunity-election-subversion-case-chutkan/index.html
It's becoming enjoyably monotonous to see legal manoeuvres by trump lawyers being continually rejected.
This, along with the others, will undoubtedly progress up through the US judicial hierarchy until trump is either out of options or wins at the supreme court.
It's all weird, still getting my head around the fact that Trump is getting stronger in terms of potentially being president again, whilst the court case is ongoing.
It's even weirder that the democrats have got themselves in such a bad position, you have Biden running again, and Kamala as back up, i think we're in for a very weird 12 months!
given how mad us politics has been, im expecting a Trump/Musk administration
given how mad us politics has been, im expecting a Trump/Musk administration
We are spared that since Musk isnt eligible(have to be natural born citizen).
Supreme Court will rule that Obama set a precedent…
I thought it was only the president that had to be us born
still getting my head around the fact that Trump is getting stronger in terms of potentially being president again,
Spite is one of the biggest motivating factors in life
The polarisation in US politics is such that what drives Trumps 'support' isnt so much his favourability amongst republicans as the upset his election would cause democrats
Supreme Court will rule that Obama set a precedent…
A precedent for what?
the president being born outside the US- remember the conspiracy theory?
(checks notes) wasn't he born in Hawaii, A US state, that makes him a US citizen, no?
Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. He graduated from Columbia University in 1983 with a B.A. in political science and later worked as a community organizer in Chicago. In 1988, Obama enrolled in Harvard Law School, where he was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He became a civil rights attorney and an academic, teaching constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004.
(checks notes) wasn’t he born in Hawaii, A US state, that makes him a US citizen, no?
Thats why its a conspiracy theory!
Sadly though given the supreme court has been packed with fruitcakes I wouldnt completely rule it out.
still getting my head around the fact that Trump is getting stronger in terms of potentially being president again,
I'm coming to the conclusion that the person I'm beginning to loath in this growing reality is Biden. Trump is a symptom, not a cause - the best analogy I can come up with is that he is America's cancer. He came around the first time because of some pretty ****ed up living and life priorities and the cancer hasn't really gone away.
No, this is all Biden's fault. Not that he's been a particularly bad president - in many ways, he's been perfectly fine. But he should have had the self awareness to appreciate that too many of the electorate will think him too old to run again. He could have made it one of his key objects to manufacture and give enough positive exposure to another Democrat to make them an obvious successor. I genuinely thought that was the plan when he nominated Harris as VP. If he could have the good grace to pop his clogs in the next few weeks and give her a run at the job we might be spared a 2nd Trump term. Otherwise they (and in turn we) are bolloxed.
I think, if memory serves, it was trump who was trying to troll him about the whole passport/birth certificate thing?
The irony is Obama, aside from having quite an illustriuous history of political education, and then teaching the same in some of the best colleges in the US...also has a track record of very compasionate community service, for want of a better phrase.
Then we have Trump, a real estate criminal who squandered his fathers inheritence, and somehow managed to open a casino that made a net loss.
A casino.
That made.
A loss.
That's got to be a world first.
Let's take a moment to reflect on that.
What’s with the having to be above 35 bit? Seems like US politics could do with a youth injection
mattyfez - your post about trump owning a casino which made a loss reminds me of Gerry Adams (yes, that one) being an unemployed barman, in Ireland.
It stretches credibility just a little.
convert - being US VP is largely ceremonial and I accept it's useful to have one if the President dies or is otherwise incapable to do the job but Harris woud not be a credible Democratic nominee.
She had her chance last time so her focus after the next election should be on building a wider and deeper base of support.
Even if she does that, my money would be on Gavin Newsom being the nominee in 2028 and if anything happens to Biden before the 2024 election I think he would be preferred to Harris as the nominee.
During the last 'primary season' my tip was Harris but she has under-performed as VP - as most/all previous
post-holders have done.
My mnain hope is that trump is not the GOP nominee but, if he is, that he is soundly defeated - and jailed or sentenced to house arrest on the back of various trials.
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Full Membermattyfez – your post about trump owning a casino which made a loss reminds me of Gerry Adams (yes, that one) being an unemployed barman, in Ireland.
It stretches credibility just a little.
He genuinely did though- it's proper business genius stuff, Trump Plaza was doing OK in the 80s til he decided to open another casino, Trump Taj Mahal, just down the road which competed directly with Plaza and sent it spiralling into bankruptcy with $250m of debt. The whole Atlantic City thing is a trip, the entire time he was there he survived entirely on fraud and by throwing away other people's money.
trump and casinos... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Entertainment_Resorts
A substantial proportion of the US electorate see him as a successful businessman; hmmm
^^ He royally shafted a lot of your average Joe working people that he claims to represent too, when the casino went under.
You have to be some sort if idiot to believe that Trump cares about anyone else but Trump yet many of them do.
Before the plaza opened, his casino management team were killed in a helicopter crash that Trump was due to be on.
He had headhunted an experienced team and with them the Casinos may have done better.
A substantial proportion of the US electorate see him as a successful businessman; hmmm
Largely because of he was the face of the US version of The Apprentice. It did for Trump what the UK version did for Alan Sugar. Made it look like he knew what he was doing.
I think convert makes a very good point. Biden needed to serve one term and leave a viable democratic successor to folliw him. I don't think Harris is that person, she's underperformed as VP when she shuld have been moulded into that successor.
He had headhunted an experienced team and with them the Casinos may have done better.
The businesses that operated under the Trump Entertainment Resort banner were built or bought largely using junk bonds and bank loans (Trumps normal way of raising cash) They nearly all went over budget on construction and fitting, because Trump is a fantasist. When there was a recession it hit both gambling revenues and increased the loans interest rates, which is why they went bankrupt. They nearly all operated at near or better than evens some were even reasonably profitable. But the debts they had to serve were all unmanageable. What team they had at the top of TER wouldn't have made a scoobies .
If you can’t service your debt you’re not making a profit.
liz Cheney gave an interview to Rachel Maddow yesterday, politically thet are miles apart but united in despising the tango toddler
pretty powerful stuff and as Trump was telling Hannity hed 'only be a dictator on day 1'
some worrying stuff was revealed about what trumps allies in government are currently up to
Tuberville retained holds on 11 officers of the most senior rank. According to congressional reporter for Punchbowl News Andrew Desiderio, the positions left vacant are commander of Pacific Air Forces, commander of U.S. Pacific Fleet, Air Component Command for the United States Indo-Pacific Command, commander for Air Combat Command, the head of the Navy’s Nuclear Propulsion Program, the head of Northern Command (which defends the United States and coordinates defenses with Canada, Mexico, and the Bahamas), the head of the U.S. Cyber Command, vice chief of staff of the Army, vice chief of staff of the Air Force, vice chief of Space Operations, and vice chief of Naval Operations.
Last night, Cheney explained to political commentator and television host Rachel Maddow exactly what a second Trump presidency would look like, Cheney said: "He would take those people who are the most radical, the most dangerous, who had the proposals that were the most dangerous, and he will put them in positions of supreme power. That's a risk that we simply cannot take."
Id like to think that American voters wouldn't be stupid enough to vote in trump again, but if they did i could see him being more viscous & damaging this tune round
Id like to think that American voters wouldn’t be stupid enough to vote in trump again, but if they did i could see him being more viscous & damaging this tune round
He is enacting a vendetta against 'the man' and anything, absolutely anything, which can upset 'the man', injure anyone he does not like and benefit himself is to be done.
I had the pleasure of being in the US a couple of weeks ago, and despite the wise strategy of avoiding discussing religion and politics, I couldn't help but gently probe a couple of colleagues/contractors.
One despises Biden because of his energy policy, as his cost of petrol and heating oil has gone up. Totally denied that renewable energy is worthwhile. Claimed not to be a massive fan of Trump, but said that during his presidency his overall cost of living was much lower, and he would vote Republican again.
Another contractor proudly had a MAGA sticker front and centre on his hard hat, so it was fairly evident where he sat on the political spectrum.
Buckle up, it's going to be a wild ride!
Looks like the NY fraud trial might wrap up sooner than anticipated. Trump dissuaded Eric from testifying for the defence last week, which has knocked about 5 days off. Now Trump, who was supposed to be a witness for his own defence tomorrow has said he won't testify now either.
Has he, for once, followed his lawyers' advice?
That's the funny thing...
You hire lawyers to give you legal advice and they act on your instructions...if your lawyer says something along the lines of... 'don't do that, it won't end well'..
well, then... that's one thing, and if you as a client ignore that advice..
The client instructs the lawyer, it's as simple as that.
Boom!
In the election subversion case Jack Smith has just upped the ante by going direct to the Supreme Court with a request that they determine whether trump has immunity from prosecution.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/11/politics/special-counsel-trump-jack-smith/index.html
Interesting - and in some ways it makes sense to get that out the way at the highest level, whichever way it goes.
Clever move as it was clear Trump was just going though all the courts as a delaying tactic. Going straight to the end of the line is quite a statement
The SC may choose to not take the case.
If they decline - and irrespective of an Appeals Court decision - it will still land with them so, please, take the case and make it a priority.
The fraud case against trump has just wrapped up - other than one day of final arguments from both sides in
mid-January and then the decision.
Here's a take on the competence and credibility of trump's final defence witness - and interesting to note that the c$900k fee he received was paid, at least in part, from trump's election campaign funds.
All the trump cases are quite confusing...probably because there are so many of them.
I was under the impression that he's already been found guilty of massive criminal fraud, and these cases are to simply to decide if he gets penalised or not?
Yeah we are only talking about a multi million (maybe billion over the years) dollar fraud and tax evasion, not serious crimes like shoplifting or being black in sight of a police officer.