If this guy wasn’t a hard-core Trumpist, I would have thought it was a pretty good parody.
What is that guy on?
If ever there was a need for some sort of mental capacity test to serve in office....
That tweet my Lord how thick can you really be.
Any other sources for these numbers?
https://twitter.com/JoJoFromJerz/status/1605623082122608649?t=6RNPho0wBMn8GNWAi91sGA&s=19
If my thermostat makes me vote Tory I'll be fuming!
Any lawyers on here? Is it a good sign when the judge warns you that your lawsuit is vexatious and frivolous?
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1605683966287265792
'vexatious and frivolous' pretty much sums up his business empire, political career, his love life and relationship with his hairdresser.
Its also his pet names for his testicles
Rep Scott Perry - W.T.A.F! 😳
There is no way on God’s green earth that a ****wit like that should be allowed to run a coconut shy, let alone be allowed anywhere near a government office.
^^^
I can't help but feel that, even in current day USA, there's no way anyone that idiotic could actually get elected so maybe his Twitter account was hacked.
Or am I being to generous?
I can’t help but feel that, even in current day USA, there’s no way anyone that idiotic could actually get elected so maybe his Twitter account was hacked.
Or am I being to generous?
GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Secret Jewish Space Laser
Its also his pet names for his testicles
Chuckle
I can’t help but feel that, even in current day USA, there’s no way anyone that idiotic could actually get elected so maybe his Twitter account was hacked.
Or am I being to generous?
It depends if he says it because he believes it, or if he is just manipulating the qnanon\election steal\maga nutters to ger and remain elected.
It depends if he says it because he believes it, or if he is just manipulating the qnanon\election steal\maga nutters to ger and remain elected.
That's the thing. Most or all of the MAGA/Tea Party people in Congress know the conspiracy theory stuff is utter bollox, they just keep repeating it because it gets the attention of Republican voters. It's all just a big joke to them.
Maybe his Chinese made phone is changing his sane messages.
There is no way on God’s green earth that a ****wit like that should be allowed to run a coconut shy, let alone be allowed anywhere near a government office.
Tory MP criticised for complaining about Priests literally "doing their job"
That MP got owned by tbe Archbishop of Canterbury, think its on the Braverman thread.
Wow! Finally some lying that even Fox news finds too much to bear.
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1607916062653251586
That new York magazine/intelligencer article was good reading - thank you
The genius of Trump, Nigerian scammers, & bitcoin peddlers comes from realizing that there is a large untapped niche of dumb people, so dumb that the dumber your argument, the more they will fall for you.
Normal & rational people have too many inhibitions to play that game.
This misses the point entirely imv. It's all about 'teaching the garden to weed itself'. the shysters are deliberate in their language, their misuse of grammar and their failure to spell and punctuate even close to correctly. In the same way trump deliberately contradicts himself in his speeches. The target of these communications is those who are easily taken in. If you're given to look at things critically you're of no use and in fact a drag on resource. Respond and engage only if you're uncritical - then you're worth investing in for what can be taken from you. Your money, your vote, or in trump's case both
Wow! Finally some lying that even Fox news finds too much to bear.
That was great to watch! She was a ran for the Democratic nomination for President in 2019, it would have been interesting to see what she could have been like if she was successful
Something funky going on in congress right now with the speaker vote not going to script with Jordan and some of the Trumpite republicans holding out for more compromises. The canker of nastiness that clung around Trump is still festering away. A quick biog of Jordan makes rather unpleasant reading.
BBC has a live blog of the vote for the new speaker.
First time in 100 years that the Speaker has needed more than one vote. Wonder if they're going for the record?
Wonder if they’re going for the record?
The current record to beat is 133!
Yeah, can't figure out where this is going. AIUI, there must be at least 218 (?) votes for one candidate and the Democrats can't muster that number of votes, so yet again, the US is being held hostage by extreme right nutters.
Unless sense prevails, and sufficient moderate Republicans (does such a thing exist anymore?) decide to vote for a Democrat speaker...
Unless sense prevails, and sufficient moderate Republicans (does such a thing exist anymore?) decide to vote for a Democrat speaker…
More likely that Democrats will vote for a moderate Republican on the understanding that the MAGA agenda get ignored.
I pick the lettuce too.
https://twitter.com/Tom23960586/status/1610430294334607360
Trump seems pretty toxic, especially as his peers are now very aware of how fragile his business model is.
I can't see the repubicans giving him any favours.
He's basicaly a non-entity at best, but more likley a total liability, but the larger issue at hand, is that a more astute right wing republican will take his place.
He’s basicaly a non-entity at best, but more likley a total liability, but the larger issue at hand, is that a more astute right wing republican will take his place.
The problem is that he still has very strong support among Republican base voters.
About 30% of voters are registered Republicans (maybe a bit higher, but below 40%, I believe).
To run for Congress, a Republican first has to win nomination by their party. They need 50% + 1 votes in a Republican primary. Even though only 20% of voters are hard-core MAGA voters, that's a majority of Republicans in red states. Those red state seats are safe Republican seats, therefore, MAGA candidates dominate the Republican caucus.
Mainstream Republicans like Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney (who are staunchly conservative, but fundamentally honest) know that the MAGA nuttery drives moderate voters away, but the MAGA core of the Republican voters don't care - they aren't interested in assembling a governing coalition and crafting a pragmatic policy portfolio that will generate enough mainstream support to be enacted, they are only interested in performative stunts to demonstrate their distain for anyone who disagrees with them.
So, basically, the Republican party is dominated by nutters who aren't interested in actually governing. They know that Trump is toxic and drives away moderates, but they think that owning the libs is the purpose of getting elected so they back Trump because he drives away moderates, not in spite of it.
vlad_the_invader
Free MemberYeah, can’t figure out where this is going. AIUI, there must be at least 218 (?) votes for one candidate and the Democrats can’t muster that number of votes, so yet again, the US is being held hostage by extreme right nutters
It seems like a system that works perfectly as long as people are more or less reasonable and public-minded. Lol. Now we have one or two headbangers- and the people who matter will know exactly who they are- who can hold out for their three wishes. The only balance to that is that if they want anything too extreme, he might lose some votes from the More Reasonable Caucus, but the way US politics is now it'd be a huge step for a republican to step away from Mcarthy and towards a Democrat. And there's not really a more reasonable Republican candidate, and if there were they'd face the exact same problem. And on the other hand Mccarthy is so fundamentally untrustworthy and spineless and the overall process so broken that there's no point in him even making a pitch to democrats because they know any deal is worthless. With the exception of the dino Manchin, who himself basically occupies the headbanger territory in his own party, but he'd have been the first door they knocked on.
The only winners are the biggest headbangers. They're also the only republicans that can make capital out of refusing to support Mccarthy. It's in their interests just to drag it through a couple more rounds of voting so their headbanger voters can approve of their headbangerness.
It's a bit like when Theresa May couldn't form a government so the DUP were able to extort literal bribes of a billion quid of public money for their support
Where's that picture of the tardigrade violinist when you need it?
https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1610499466255273984
Yeah, can’t figure out where this is going. AIUI, there must be at least 218 (?) votes for one candidate and the Democrats can’t muster that number of votes, so yet again, the US is being held hostage by extreme right nutters.
Unfortunately the democrats recent experience will be the inspiration. With politic having become so polarised and the house and senate being so closely balanced - it has been the outliers that hold the power. Joe Manchin and Kyrstin Sinema have dominated democrat policy by being the one or two votes needed to make anything happen and not being prepared to toe the party line. So thats what this bunch of republic**ts want to do - signal that without a concession to them nothing the party tries to do will succeed. Which is funny really as most of what the Republican Party does is try and not do anything.
We're in the same boat obviously. Thats why Braverman has a job.
It's back to the voting public. These utter shysters would just be turgid irrelevant pub bores (or crooked businessmen, or both) without the electorate giving them the power to do damager. Over 30% of American voting adults still being members of the GOP....with the track record of what they have done in recent years (Inc Jan 6th) is frankly sign of a toxic nation. They are either morons or actually approve of their shit - not sure what is more terrifying.
UK is no better mind you. There are 81,336 members of the conservative party that gave Truss a chance to **** us all over that need a damn good thrashing too!
Joe Manchin and Kyrstin Sinema have dominated democrat policy by being the one or two votes needed to make anything happen and not being prepared to toe the party line.
Sinema seems to only be interested in promoting her own career, she doesn't seem to have any coherent package of policies that she wants to implement. She would not be able to win another primary as a Democrat so she's going to run as an independent. She has no hope of winning as an independent, the question is whether she hurts the Democratic or Republican nominee more in the general election.
Manchin is a senator from West Virginia, which is deeply conservative coal country. Many of the left-wing policy platforms would be political suicide for him, he can only survive by being a pragmatic centrist (which makes him relatively right-wing compared to the left-wing of the Democratic Party.) In order to maintain a senate majority, the Democratic Party has to retain senate seats like the one that Manchin holds, which means that they need to avoid forcing him into a choice of voting for policies that his conservative constituents won't accept. If the Democrats imposed a left-wing purity test to throw out centrists like Manchin, they would lose their senate majority and be much worse off than they are with Manchin giving them a majority, but killing some policies. They have no realistic choice other than letting him vote how he chooses.
And now the 10thvote has failed. He even seems to be losing votes as this time he is down one to 200
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/jan/05/house-speaker-vote-republicans-kevin-mccarthy
I'm wondering if there is an upside to this in that they won't be able to get a speaker who can force through the most toxic stuff as he won't have a strong enough base.
The twist could be nominating a reasonable republican by the Democrats and then they vote for him. End up not with a loon in charge
Oh that would be a twist
Shows how unreasonable these people are. If you fail to achieve something ten times in a row, at what point do you foxtrot-oscar?
DISCLAIMER I have no clue about the actual machinations of this vote.
I’m wondering if there is an upside to this in that they won’t be able to get a speaker who can force through the most toxic stuff as he won’t have a strong enough base.
Is it the speaker that forces stuff through? I thought the President has his plans & the house votes. Now the Reps have the majority most will be stymied anyway?
Is it the speaker that forces stuff through? I thought the President has his plans & the house votes.
The speaker controls the agenda in the House, but legislation also needs ratification in the senate, plus a signature from the president to become law. It's a very complex system. Biden spent decades in the senate, Nancy Pelosi decades in the house. Between them, they achieved a huge amount because they understood how the system works.
The clowns holding up the speaker confirmation aren't interested in actually passing any legislation, they're just mugging for the camera to get votes back home in Backofbumsarse.
My money is on McCarthy holding on for at least 20 votes but quitting before 30. He obviously has zero self respect, but eventually it will dawn on him that the humiliation will never have a pay-off. Still, his name will be a major footnote in history.
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1611061108260933632
a reasonable republican
Not many candidates for that in the House of reps any more.
What'd be really interesting is to see exactly what each of the flipped rebels has been promised.
One of the better outcomes now is that it gets to the point where the proper loons- Gaetz and Boebart and scum like that- are still holding out for whatever insanity it is they want, free guns for preschoolders or if you're gaetz free preschoolers for him, and then just 3 democrats tactically flip and make them irrelevant and they can both **** off with nothing
and then just 3 democrats tactically flip and make them irrelevant and they can both **** off with nothing
Depending what he's promised the rebels, might have been in the Democrats interests to vote him in sooner. Which would have really made the headbangers heads explode
Depending what he’s promised the rebels, might have been in the Democrats interests to vote him in sooner.
Thats the problem isn't it. These fruit loops are going to get themselves on some fairly important committees and immediately decide the most important thing to do is investigate Hunter Bidens 'selfies' or something.
decide the most important thing to do is investigate Hunter Bidens ‘selfies’ or something.
Sadly a lot of those already supporting him are already planning on that. The holders out probably just want to skip investigation and move straight to execution of all "liberals".
Depending what he’s promised the rebels, might have been in the Democrats interests to vote him in sooner.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
I think the Democrats are doing the right thing in just letting the Republicans come to terms with their own stupidity. The holdouts don't really want anything policy-wise, they're just showing off to their voters back home that they can cripple the government anytime they want. Having done that, they can't back down now. The Democrats should just let them keep on doing stupid until they're so desperate that moderate Republicans go begging to the Democrats to bail them out of the mess.
Oh dear, Republicans at each others' throats.
https://twitter.com/andyharnik/status/1611582256660758528
LOL (assuming its true)
https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1612564851049615371?t=lXZZ-kPKx4PN3D8aeM19bw&s=19
I think it's true but she doesn't appear locked out any more. Man the US politics is toxic on social media
From guardian
Donald Trump is scheduled to venture out of his Mar-a-Lago resort and conduct a swing of presidential campaign events later this month
Lotsa pointin’ and waggle-dancin’. Yay!
He had an element of novel curiosity last time, now he’s just a ****ing arsehole.
Hopefully this will deter lawyers from filing frivolous lawsuits.
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1616256440456384513
Lovely footage popping up on YouTube of Donald's touching eulogy for 'Diamond' - half of the republican commentator double act 'Diamond and Silk' - cartwheeling gracefully from complaining that its taking too long and he has places to be, via rambling about inflation and what the price of a gallon of gas means to a hospital through to Arnold Swartzneger getting terrible ratings when he took over on the Apprentice, and how Martha Stewart was even worse.
Beautiful - I only wish she could have been there, if only for the the couple of occasions it occurring to him to mention her - in order to say that he knew who she was - and to comfort her sister and co-host 'Silk' by saying he has never heard of her though.
I only open this thread nowadays to see if he's dead
For fear of getting the thread locked I can't say whether I'm disappointed or not.......
Lovely footage popping up on YouTube of Donald’s touching eulogy for ‘Diamond’
I see he won a golf tournament at his club even though he missed the first round due to attending the funeral!
Fake news!
He did do the first round just a couple of days in advance with no independent witnesses.
I cant believe anyone would question his honesty about the score he achieved.
He did do the first round just a couple of days in advance with no independent witnesses.
Surely George Santos was there to adjudicate. His grandmother was Old Tom Morris and his grandfather was Young Tom Morris. It was George who gave Shaun Ryder the idea of inventing the Ryder Cup.
Fake news!
It’s a fair cop sir! I intentionally left out that piece of information to paint an unfair picture of the worlds greatest leader! I’ll hand myself in once I putt my 18th hole in one!
Lovely footage popping up on YouTube of Donald’s touching eulogy for ‘Diamond’ – half of the republican commentator double act ‘Diamond and Silk’ – cartwheeling gracefully from complaining that its taking too long and he has places to be, via rambling about inflation and what the price of a gallon of gas means to a hospital through to Arnold Swartzneger getting terrible ratings when he took over on the Apprentice, and how Martha Stewart was even worse.
Just watched it.
He really is the most narcissistic, sociopathic car crash of a human being.
It's nice that he has set his children on the path to riches.
I owe everything to my Dad
If he is as business minded as his old man,Eric will have a cunning plan.
Apologies to RNP if I got his hopes up. 😉🙃
It’s nice that he has set his children on the path to riches.
Poor Eric
"Brexit has impacted our business as supply chains have been impacted by availability of drivers and staff, reducing deliveries and the availability of certain product lines," he wrote.
Eric Trump also said staff availability had been a "challenge" due to wage inflation caused by "increased business levels" in the retail and logistics sectors, adding the "staffing pool" had been indirectly affected by Brexit "with lack of access to European staff for businesses in general resulting in greater demand for the individuals previously available at the resort"

It’s nice that he has set his children on the path to riches.
I owe everything to my Dad
If he is as business minded as his old man,Eric will have a cunning plan.
Apologies to RNP if I got his hopes up.
It is a shame the BBC didn't remind everyone that it is usual practice for Trumps businesses to report losses for tax reasons, while inflating profits and value to secure finance, and for that reason any report of a loss should be assumed to just be another lie.
Poor Eric
Och,he will be fine,his old man can make 4 million in an afternoon*.
I am sure Eric is just as slick 😉
* from the Trump book of easy business
Trump worried he might be arrested, so urges protectors onto the street...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65000325
I think Trump has misheard the DA refer to him as a “See you next Tuesday” and assumed wrongly.
Lol😁
so urges protectors onto the street…
I wonder what the turnout for this rallying call will be. And whether any horn-wearing QAnon shamans will be there.
I think his supporters should take note of how he quickly jumped to their aid, when they were accused, arrested and imprisoned the last time they acted on his words.
Mind you, they aren't the brightest of buttons in the box.
And whether any horn-wearing QAnon shamans will be there.
Isn't he in prison? As with others who turned up to the Donald's call for protest.
I wonder what the turnout for this rallying call will be.
It's gonna be yuge.

Indicted...now get him in court before the election.
Hallelujah!
Donald, you've been a very naughty boy.
The focus has been on the hush money payment to Stormy Daniels with, apparently, no interest in the other bit of buying silence; playboy model claimed an affair with trump; sold her story to the 'national enquirer' whose chief exec, david pecker - such an apt surname in this story - then killed the story by not publishing it.
US media have been reporting that pecker has been seen entering and leaving the NY court house where the grand jury for this case sit.
Wait, I hear you say - is there more than one grand jury?
Why, yes siree! How many fingers do you have to count them?
When you add in potential indictments in the 'classified docs' case and for election-tampering in Georgia, it's a veritable smorgasbord of courtroom action.
Oh, and Jean E.Carroll's civil case...
We all knew that Trump has always been a wrong 'un, when he was elected he was still a wrong 'un and wherever he ends up, he'll always be a wrong 'un.
I'd feel much greater satisfaction if Trump's campaign donors and media apologists were indicted too.
Call me naive, but I don't quite get it.....
You have an affair with a playboy model - she says she's taking the story to the press - you get an aid to pay her some money to stop her to make it more lucrative to take your offer than take the media's money.
Why is this illegal? In fact why is it not being blackmailed?
Don't get me wrong - the orange one being brought to book for pretty much anything is a great day; I'm just not quite sure why this is actually so very naughty. I'd far rather see him brought down for what happened on Jan 6th where people died and democracy was properly threatened. That's what should be sending him to prison.
Because the payments made involved campaign money from the 2016 election, so it became fraud. Trump's argument is that he was going to pay it anyway - and did, personally in the end - but it's the use of funds to cover something up that politicised it, and possibly aided his victory.
Why is this illegal?
Campaign fund violations, I believe. It's a bit like getting Al Capone on tax charges.
I’d far rather see him brought down for what happened on Jan 6th where people died and democracy was properly threatened. That’s what should be sending him to prison.
That's being investigated separately. He's facing multiple possible charges in different jurisdictions by different investigators. One effect of this will be to distract him badly. It will make campaigning for president difficult, and also tie his lawyers up with fighting a bunch of separate cases.
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1641555802216452100
Here’s hoping this pile upon on pile of extra stress takes its toll on the 76 year old cheezburger muncher. But not before his arse is handed to him by the courts.
Rotten bastard.
I’m just not quite sure why this is actually so very naughty. I’d far rather see him brought down for what happened on Jan 6th where people died and democracy was properly threatened. That’s what should be sending him to prison.
I agree. The Stormy Daniels stuff really doesn't, so far at least, sound that damning.
Apparently his former lawyer paid off Stormy Daniels and when later Trump reimbursed the lawyer by double the amount he put it down as "legal services" which it is claimed was false.
And because he allegedly benefited politically from the hush money they are trying to link it with campaign fraud.
The problem with going after Trump on pretty minor stuff like that, years after it happened, and as the result of intense investigations by the District Attorney, it does appear to look a bit like a political witch-hunt.
Which of course Trump is milking for all it's worth. If people start believing that Trump is the victim of am establishment witch-hunt it is likely imo to garner him sympathy which he isn't entitled to.
And will possibly make it more difficult to convince people that he is guilty of the much more serious stuff.
Trump's attempt to lead an insurrection to overturn a presidential election is far more difficult to dismiss as of little importance. Even some of his own supporters ended up disgusted with him.
However despite that as many as 40% of Americans believe that the last presidential election was rigged. IMO the issue should not be put to rest and instead vigorously pursued.
Trump is a criminal and should face the consequences. The Stormy Daniels sounds like a distraction to me.
Stormy Daniels a distraction?
It would take more than two mounds of silicone to distract me.
The issue, ernie, as has been pointed out many times is violation of regulations regarding use of campaign funds.
The sort of transgression that would offend your political sensibilities if it occurred in camden or croydon or some other inner city borough.
I don't care what it takes to sink trump; my interest is in seeing him sink.
As has been pointed out to you before, Alphonse Capone was a criminal non-pareil but was convicted on tax charges.
Get trump in court, charge him, convict him, sentence him.
Who gives a flying one what the charge is?
You might but the vast majority don't.

