I don't really see what he gains if it's made up, sure he avoids a couple more embarrassing debates but I still think those debates are more of a risk for Biden. The swing voters are Biden's to lose at this point, if they're still undecided after 4 years of this shit it's unlikely even Trump could screw up the last two debates enough for him to cause them to swing Biden's way. And as long as he doesn't say F*** the police or farmers etc. his rabid base isn't going to care how badly he does in debates.
I'd go more for the conspiracy theory of he gets someone to off Melania (she obviously has dirt on him) and blames it on Covid and gets the swing vote due to sympathy.
If the election is called off it would be highly suspicious
The election has already started. The election date is set by Congress, which is controlled by the Democratic Party.
You guys are all spiraling down a crazy conspiracy theory rabbit hole. What has happened here is that D.T. has behaved recklessly and exposed himself to Covid, has been infected, and now needs to quarantine. There's a significant chance that he may die. That's all there is to it, plain and simple.
My theory: he's going to fake his own death.
That’s all there is to it, plain and simple.
Have you not read any of this thread, or seen any news regarding the DT presidency? Nothing is plain and simple with him.
Maybe he will end up in ITU like Boris did, nothing like facing your own mortality to put a little perspective back in your life
Because as we have seen, Boris's brush with "COVID" has resulted in pure humanity and empathy oozing from every pore.
I'm not 100% convinced that BJ had it, I am very skeptical that Trump has it.
My theory: he’s going to fake his own death.
Wild.
I like it.
Nothing is plain and simple with him.
He has Covid. The election will take place on November 3 with or without him. Plain and simple.
I like it.
I think we should insist on a televised funeral pyre just to be sure. Chuck on Don Jr, Ivanka and Jared and make it pay-per-view. MASSIVE RATINGS!
In these awful and challenging times, I have utmost sympathy for the virus.
I believe it's called Karma, and it's pronounced 'Ha!'
Who knew that 'Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV' was an actual transmission timeline?
If he does die of it. Its likely his death will save thousands of others during from it.
If validated, it also shows that the virus can jump from humans to other species. Very worrying.
I think his unbelievably good genes will see him fend off this virus, he'll provide medical evidence to support this, a US genetics firm will get the green light to replicate his genes into some kind of uber vaccine that will get sold to every Gov around the world.
Trump will then be proclaimed as the Second Coming, the man who single-handedly dismantled the Chinese master plan, reinstated the US economy and resumed his place in office for another term.
Hallelujah, praise the Lord.
Is he on a bleach drip yet? With a uv light up his arse?
I’m not 100% convinced that BJ had it,
The view in the press bubble is that he had it, but maybe not quite as bad as the stories make out...
In his position, incredibly convenient to be dead for a year "for tax reasons".
If he's taken out of the race, Pence presidency?
If he's not president he is open to prosecution. End of.
He'd need Pence to win to pardon him.
In theory, Pence could assume the presidency, lose and pardon him during the transition.
But he can't be pardoned for State crimes, so the Southern District of NY stuff still applies.
He'll find a way to milk this for all it's worth.
Given how the healthcare system works there, he'll be getting the best treatment available, as quickly as it is possible. He'll stand a better chance of survival than the general person of his age/ health.
But he can’t be pardoned for State crimes
I didn't realise that.
He’ll find a way to milk this for all it’s worth.
He'll probably nuke China as its all their fault
I'm going to go with - he doesn't have it, but he doesn't know he doesn't have it.. 🤔
Its just too convenient.
His team keep him off Twitter and, potentially away from a debate - WIN
No press questions or opportunities for him to put his foot in it for a bit - WIN
He fights and beats the virus, demonstration of strength - WIN
First Lady positive suggests that they actually spend time in the same room together - WIN
First Lady positive suggests that they actually spend time in the same room together
Or they both spend time with an unknown third party.
If he recovers without serious complications then you can just tell the first thing he'll say is 'it's no worse than the flu'..
First Lady positive suggests that they actually spend time in the same room together – WIN
Not for her it's not !
Or they both spend time with an unknown third party.
I didn't think the orange one had met Justin Trudeau recently?
I’m not 100% convinced that BJ had it .
I was in the same camp, but BJ was in an NHS hospital, surrounded by NHS workers who are not exactly part of his fanbase. If he was swinging the lead, it would have been leaked in seconds.
First Lady positive suggests that they actually spend time in the same room together
Those adult nappies don't change themselves, you know
I’m not 100% convinced that BJ had it .
Of course Johnson had it... and he had excellent treatment... they were monitoring his blood oxygen levels early before it became the norm. I don't understand those thinking Trump is faking it either... and also think his chances are far better than for anyone else with his age and health who has it... he will be looked after better than anyone else, you can count on that. He'll come through this, and then downplay its effect on him (and others).
Will be blame China for trying to assassinate him?
Given how the healthcare system works there, he’ll be getting the best treatment available, as quickly as it is possible. He’ll stand a better chance of survival than the general person of his age/ health.
The Whitehouse has it's own well equipped Medical Centre with 20+ staff, trauma centre etc, it's got 'the works'.
The Whitehouse has it’s own well equipped Medical Centre with 20+ staff, trauma centre etc, it’s got ‘the works’.
Somewhat ironic that he's the only person in the entire country to receive free at the point of use, state funded healthcare innit?
I don’t understand those thinking Trump is faking it either… and also think his chances are far better than for anyone else with his age and health who has it… he will be looked after better than anyone else, you can count on that. He’ll come through this, and then downplay its effect on him (and others).
Really, I get what you mean, but if you were to draft a list of people on earth who'd claim they had it, when they didn't to gain a political advantage, he's got to be near the top of the list.
Also, unlike BJ he's got his own Doctor and complete control of the environment if he wanted to make a false claim, he'd likely be able to get away with it.
Or they both spend time with an unknown third party.
My thoughts are with the virus during this difficult time.
This deserves to be quoted.
Stand by for:
Everyone except fake news knows that I beat the China virus. In fact I beat the China virus better than anyone in history. Just as we knew I would. Some of our science people say it’s a ‘threat‘ but some of our top health business people say maybe not so much. So I’m just saying...make your own mind up folks. Do you go with China Virus enablers along with the Democrats, terrorists and fake news? Or do you go with The Best China Virus Beater Making America Great Again?
I don’t understand those thinking Trump is faking it either
I’m sure that you do. Although you may disagree with the reasoning.
He’ll come through this, and then downplay its effect on him (and others).
Which would also be the case should he fake it. Except with zero risk attached. Then again, these days I don’t even know if tin foil can be described as ‘hat’ because foil is made of aluminium (increasingly referred to as ‘aLOOminnUHM’)
There will be a lot of people praying for him right now, is there anything we can do to mitigate this?
Partner told me this morning oh Trumps got covid my first response was yeh sure he just doesn't want to go on TV again. His past actions and spread of disinformation mens loads of people will think this is BS. Heard a stat how given his age and weight hes 90% more likely to have complications than a teenger. Thats crazy 90%. But its all good he just out the light on it and zap it right out.
I’m sure that you do.
I understand that many people will... that's conspiracy theories for you... I'm just surprised how many people are jumping on it already, here. That's where we are though. I shouldn't be surprised, should I... my bad.
90% more likely to have complications than a teenger
90% more likely means he is less than double the risk of a teenager. I think you me 90 x more likely.
I don't believe for a second he has it. It's an election tactic. He can avoid debates and any further scrutiny and reap the sympathy vote. It also puts the Biden campaign on the back foot. They can't exactly attack him with all guns blazing when he's 'unwell'. Then he'll come back victorious just before polling day, showing what a strongman he is and how the virus isn't as bad as everyone's saying, proving he was right all along.
Or he'll die. I really hope that is the case.
I don’t believe for a second he has it. It’s an election tactic. He can avoid debates and any further scrutiny and reap the sympathy vote.
He's spent most of the year downplaying it and saying it's a hoax, then ignoring advice and holding rallies without masks. Getting it makes him look really bad and prevents him campaigning, there's no way this helps him.
The hoax thing was, err a hoax. He never said that. Much like the very fine people hoax.
My thoughts are with the virus during this difficult time.
I will quote that again. Brilliant.
Or he’ll die. I really hope that is the case.
I still find it difficult to cross the line to actively wanting physical harm to come to anyone, but Trump, Cummings, Johnson, Farage push me close. Real close.
Let's just say I struggle to envisage a world that isn't a better place if their ilk weren't around any more.
As for all the conspiracy stuff, this what these bastards do. They put out conflicting narratives about every subject, then this creates unease and uncertainty within populations to enable the three-word-sloganites an easy ride.
I heartily recommend 'Hypernormalisation' by Adam Curtis. Especially the bit about Vladislav Surkov. You can see the playbook being written.
I still find it difficult to cross the line to actively wanting physical harm to come to anyone
I don't. They deserve no sympathy. The only name I'd omit from your list is Cummings. He's an idealogue, and has been given an opportunity to implement his ideas. I disagree with his ideas but can admire how he's gone about executing them.
The rest of them on the contrary are only there out of their own inflated egos and naked ambition.
Everyone should watch Hypernormalisation.
There is a Trump quote or statement to back up any future narrative, often directly contradicting himself within days, if not hours.
He’s got this virus though, there really is no reason to think otherwise.
There will be a lot of people praying for him right now, is there anything we can do to mitigate this?
Start a "Save Trump" crowdfunder and divert them into giving you money?
TL;DR, but with his age and level of obesity, surely this presents a significant comorbidity challenge to the medical team? I do hope that the POTUS medical team are black, hispanic, Chinese etc and they just let him rot in his own filth.
If Mrs T does have it, it disproves my theory that she's a robot.... unless she's an advanced cyborg Stepford Wife?
From a prescient (apart from the geography) paper written for the CIA in 1993:
"In the years ahead, the United States will assuredly find itself in new
international crises involving nations or groups that have powerful leaders. In
some cases, these leaders may have a special, dangerous mindset that is the
result of a “hubris-nemesis complex.”
This complex involves a combination of hubris (a pretension toward an arrogant
form of godliness) and nemesis (a vengeful desire to confront, defeat, humiliate,
and punish an adversary, especially one that can be accused of hubris). The
combination has strange dynamics that may lead to destructive, high-risk
behaviour. Attempts to deter, compel, or negotiate with a leader who has a
hubris-nemesis complex can be ineffectual or even disastrously
counterproductive when those attempts are based on concepts better suited to
dealing with more normal leaders."
Old, overweight and poor - odds aren't great for him, he ticks all the boxes.
The hoax thing was, err a hoax. He never said that. Much like the very fine people hoax.
From the CNN story:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/17/politics/joe-biden-campaign-ad-trump-coronavirus-hoax-fact-check/index.html
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Here is what Trump said in full:
"Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus -- you know that right? Coronavirus. They're politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, "How's President Trump doing?" They go, "Oh, not good, not good." They have no clue. They don't have any clue. They can't even count their votes in Iowa. They can't even count. No, they can't. They can't count their votes.
One of my people came up to me and said, "Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn't work out too well. They couldn't do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They'd been doing it since you got in." It's all turning. They lost. It's all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax."
The next day Trump was asked about this comment and tried to clarify what he said, claiming he was "referring to the action that [the Democrats] take to try and pin this on somebody, because we've done such a good job. The hoax is on them."
That said, Trump's clarification has not stopped some of his supporters from believing the pandemic is, in fact, a hoax. One Trump supporter attending a campaign rally in Michigan on September 10 was asked by CNN's Jim Acosta why he was not wearing a mask. "Because there's no Covid," he said. "It's a fake pandemic created to destroy the United States of America."
I feel a bit for Biden. So much to attack about Trump in general but about him getting it after mocking other for taking steps to avoid it specifically. Does you hitting a home run against an 'ill' man make yo look bad? Probably does.
I so want him to get it and get it proper bad. Maybe survive now properly bolloxed and die in a year or so after a nice bit of suffering. Renal failure and a transplant, what's left of his cognitive abilities further mashed and a few good strokes. Then die.
But suspect he hasn't actually got it or he has and is asymptomatic and remains that way. Which will make him smugger than ever. Google tells me he is blood type O. This improves his chances of dodging a bullet considerably some of latest research shows. But please let me be wrong.
I see STW is awash with compassion!
This place is effin horrible sometimes....
There will be a lot of people praying for him right now, is there anything we can do to mitigate this?
I doubt it'll make a jot of difference. If there is a God, I find it hard to believe they* would help out Trump.
*I've decided I'm gonna use non-gendered pronouns for God from now on.
I see STW is awash with compassion!
This place is effin horrible sometimes….
Shut it on your way out
Iamp, would you rather we do show compassion to a homophobic, racist, sexist, bullying liar then 🙂
Is compassion somthing we should extend to everyone without considereing who they are and what they have done ?
I see STW is awash with compassion!
I think that, generally, it is. But the man we are talking about is hardly known for it...
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/782673397952094208
https://twitter.com/d1993_sam/status/1310990698607448064?s=20
My first thought was how vulnerable to covid Biden is too. You face a global pandemic that is viscious to the older and the infirm and you send out Biden.
It's Dads Army stuff.
I see STW is awash with compassion!
This place is effin horrible sometimes
Give me one reason, just one, why I should feel compassion for someone who has spent his whole life abusing, belittling and bullying people. Someone who is racist, sexist and a habitual liar. Someone who has never, ever, thought about a single human being other than himself. Someone who sets about to stoke hatred and division. Someone who encourages violence, encourages racism and someone who has never found compassion for any other human being.
He is a truly deplorable thing and fails every single measure of basic human decency.
I try to find compassion as I believe you shouldn’t lower yourself to anything close to his level. However, I simply fail to find any.
Lamp.
Sympathy for the Devil.
I see STW is awash with compassion!
As ye sow, so shall ye reap....
I still find it difficult to cross the line to actively wanting physical harm to come to anyone, but Trump, Cummings, Johnson, Farage push me close. Real close.
What people forget is that Trump, Cummings etc cause death and misery by policy, a slow mental and physical torture aimed at those unable to fight back until they die looking back on a life destroyed by the greed and power lust of the 1%ers. I make no bones at all at wishing them dead, it is far less than the actual policies they enact to make people suffer. They are no different to tyrants, it's just their weapons are usually financial power rather than guns and bombs.
Compassion
Remember Trump mocking Biden for mask wearing...
https://twitter.com/YahooNews/status/1311299005138104321?s=20
I see STW is awash with compassion!
Yes we should show compassion for a rapist, mysoginist, racist, far right supporting, faux-strongman who's only real achievement in life was inheriting millions from his family? I'd do far worse to him than give him covid given the opportunity.
What @franksinatra said
There are certain individuals who are just so morally abhorrent that they command no sympathy whatsoever. Donald Trump is utterly devoid of a single shred of empathy, compassion, or human decency. He's a cruel, mean-spirited narcissist who would stand by and watch you bleed to death in a gutter, without a thought of helping you.
And given the utterly stone-hearted, nonchalant and uncaring manner in which he's addressed the 200,000+ COVID dead in America, and his casual disregard for simple preventative measures, there's a certain poetic justice to him now having it.
I'd never wish anyone dead, but some people deserve everything they get
karma's a bitch
I see STW is awash with compassion!
This place is effin horrible sometimes….
Nah, Trump can go **** himself. And when he's finished, he can **** himself a little more.
If that makes me a bad person I am more than happy to live with that. The man is a nasty turd and deserves everything that could come his way.
Remember Trump mocking Biden for social distancing…
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I see STW is awash with compassion!This place is effin horrible sometimes….
The damage he has done for climate change is enough for me to think his time should be up.
the worrying development for me is the fact Melania picked it up.
I thought she kept as far away from Frump as possible
My dad always says that, sympathy comes between sh** and syphilis in the dictionary.
the worrying development for me is the fact Melania picked it up.
I pity the whitehouse security operative that gave it to her, he'll be on a flight to Guantanamo
Yes we should show compassion for a rapist, mysoginist, racist, far right supporting, faux-strongman who’s only real achievement in life was inheriting millions from his family?
We can do that, or we can behave as he does. I hope he recovers sufficiently to have his arse handed to him on 3 November.
Yup, recovery, followed by a defeat large enough to enable as peaceful as possible a handover… and then a full investigation into his money debt.
There is a difference between having no compassion, and actively wishing for prolonged suffering, strokes etc etc. The latter marks you out as a dick, plain and simple.
The damage he has done for climate change is enough for me to think his time should be up.
All by himself ? 😕 and in less than 4 years too.
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