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i totally didn’t know about the thing I’m telling you about, that is perfectly legal and anyone who says otherwise is a silly head.
fancy that, throwing your son under the bus 🙂
I for one, certainly have the integrity to not drag the person that did the throwing down with me. I’m sure jr will too
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
sorry, guess my poker face isn’t what it was...
But, but, the meeting he didn't know about was about adoptions, not getting dirt on Hilary!
The trouble for Trumpy is trying to remember whether he's currently on lie 1.0, 2.0 or perhaps even 3.0 (final revision) if he ever sits down with Mueller.
Still, it's all a nothingburger. NO COLLUSION!
I do wonder how long he has to hold his breath for before the lawyers/WH staff/grown ups relent and give him his phone/internet privileges back after these kinds of outbursts
Must be nearing world record levels now, that or he’s actually passing out.
Well allegedly Manafort is looking at hundreds of years in prison for avoiding a bit of tax so Trump must be looking at that an thinking F*****.
No Collusion !!!
So there seems to be discussions around whether Donny is actually going to agree to be interviewed, or whether Mueller is going to have the balls to subpoena a sitting president.
Interesting times.
He undoubtedly has some level of protection from criminal proceedings as President (although from memory I don't think he is completely protected), but I wonder how much info the FBI now has on his previous shady activities - of which they MUST BE A BOATLOAD. Cohen has been with him since 2011 - so I would imagine that he has enough dirt you negotiate himself out from under any heavy jailtime.
If he thinks THIS is uncomfortable, I bet he's going to find his life after the presidency very challenging indeed.
All I have in my head now is an adapted scene from ‘A Few Good Men’
’Mr President, did your collude with the Russians?’
’Crooked Hillary, with her emails, she was leaking, from her private serv...’
’Answer the question sir’
’We werent gonna get the electoral college vote, we had to get that for the white hou...’
’DONALD! DID YOU COLLUDE WITH THE RUSSIANS OVER THE ELECTION?!’
’YOU’RE GOD DAMN RIGHT I DID!’
etc arrest the president etc etc
If he thinks THIS is uncomfortable, I bet he’s going to find his life after the presidency very challenging indeed.
if he gets caught the whole Trump empire is likely to come crumbling down, don’t think his missus is happy with him either and his sons are in the crossfire.
If he thinks THIS is uncomfortable, I bet he’s going to find his life after the presidency very challenging indeed.
He's not a young man. He doesn't have a huge amount of 'life after the presidency' to worry about. And lets face it - theres years and years of work involved in untangling all this shit. You have to wonder whether the sheer quantity of lies, fouls and buillshit are just a tool for future legal filibustering to slow down any future prosecutions so that he's dead before he's sentenced.
Unfortunately - an awful lot of people are lying on his behalf on a daily basis. Either because they are his supporters or just because they're in the unfortunate position of having a job. The rest of their lives and careers are going to pretty have to be scheduled around explaining their role in facilitating his lies.
If you just take the example of his recent claim that he predicted the outcome of the Brexit referendum - claiming he made statements before the result that was actually at an event after the result- and making that claim to the very same people who were at that first event. Its clear to everyone he lied. However, in defence of his lie he had official Whitehouse channels public confirm his position in terms of where and when he was and what he said in relation to Brexit. Even though he wasn't a president or in anyway connected to the Whitehouse at the time of the even they were publically and officially 'confirming'. Those staff were were either conspiring with him in a deception regarding an event that was outside the remit of the Whitehouse, or they were careless, or they were bullied or coerced into it. But - one day that event is going to have to be reckoned with - its an abuse of the office by either or both of the president and those officials. It has to be dealt with one day, sooner or later but there are 1000s of those abuses so far. Its going to take decades to deal with them all.
i see the California fires are now also the fault of the Democrats
Thanks Obama!
Can anyone explain why Trump has put sanctions back on Iran? Yes the leadership of Iran can be seen as odious but at the moment they have a moderate leadership.
Oh oh and his tweets about water concerning the fires in California are the work of an imbecile
Can anyone explain why Trump has put sanctions back on Iran? Yes the leadership of Iran can be seen as odious but at the moment they have a moderate leadership.
Obama made the deal, he must undo whatever Obama did because he is ______ it's becoming obvious.
So rip up the deal, make Iran the enemy - well Israel said they were and it's not as if they are ever acting in their own self interest.
Next up have a meeting and get no concessions or anything else before declaring it a massive success.
As in logically? Hard to say. In reality though he's done it to try and show he's a strong leader to his base of supporters. Iran can only huff and puff whilst he gets to beat his chest.
That said I'm not a particular fan of the agreement myself, it seems pretty weak and just designed to slightly slow down Iran's nuclear ambitions whilst letting all sides claim a minor win. Ofc completely ostracising and isolating them isn't going to have a different outcome either and may just make things worse. I think Iran is more dangerous than NK long-term, at least NK isn't trying to spread an authoritarian religious ideology as well.
Will be interesting to see what happens to EU companies doing business with Iran, I don't really think the EU fund is much of an answer. Maybe companies get around with with divesting interests to wholly-owned subsidiaries but the US could easily still make parent companies liable.
Can anyone explain why Trump has put sanctions back on Iran?
Who can really guess what goes on in his head...But mostly I think it's because it was negotiated by Obama and therefore HAS to be destroyed. and afterwards rebuilt by him so he can enjoy the adulation of his supports and claim that "it's the greatest deal anyone ever made, no president before has ever managed it..." or some such bravura. I think it's central to his self image...
Can anyone explain why Trump has put sanctions back on Iran?
I am assuming that it's part of a deal with the Saudis.
Could feasibly be related to Russia in some way? Maybe it benefits Russia if EU/US firms are stopped from doing business with Iran?
It seems The Donald’s war on anything to do with keeping the environment clean and safe is now extending to tearing up rules designed to keep his own people safe! He’s packed the EPA with his own drones, who’re now reviewing the use of asbestos in construction, a mineral that’s been banned by over 60 countries around the world, one of which is Brazil, which has also banned the mining and transportation of asbestos as well.
Oddly enough, and by a strange and spooky coincidence, Russia still mines and produces asbestos for construction, and it would seem that they might be ready and willing to help replace the material lost by the Brazilian ban...
^ My old man died of mesothelioma. This makes me really angry.
I suspect Trump's position, as ever, is based on his own willful ignorance..... I'm guessing he will either backtrack after the public outcry, or double-down and THEN backtrack.
I suspect Trump’s position, as ever, is based on his own willful ignorance…..
I'm guessing it's because he's a money grabbing arsehole.
I suspect Trump’s position, as ever, is based on his own willful ignorance…..
I’m guessing it’s because he’s a money grabbing arsehole.
It can be both I suppose.
Can anyone explain why Trump has put sanctions back on Iran? Yes the leadership of Iran can be seen as odious but at the moment they have a moderate leadership.
Iran is a strong member of OPEC and in the ME
Israel want sanctions, Saudi want sanctions
The US want to sell weapons and ideally get to a point where they can bring some “freedom” to the oil over there.
its about making money and keeping your designated enemy in the public focus. If they are afraid of something then they are more likely to vote for avRepublican president
But like our own charmer Boris, comments like those match the views of his supporters.
SPACE FORCE !!!
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Apparently is a Russian asset due to compromising photos and video, this is claimed by a KGB general.
I should stop stop reading Twitter
It's not that hard to believe that the Russians do have stuff on his business deals over there. I'm sure if they did it would have been communicated to him after the election.
His body language and speaking around putin where he was shit scared says something
James Clapper, a former intelligence chief who believes Russia “turned” the 2016 election, put into words what many Americans must be thinking. “I have been trying to give the president the benefit of the doubt,” Clapper said last month. “But more and more … I really do wonder if the Russians have something on him.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/09/trump-russia-us-sanctions-quiet-analysis
It’s not that hard to believe that the Russians do have stuff on his business deals over there. I’m sure if they did it would have been communicated to him after the election.
His body language and speaking around putin where he was shit scared says something
Pretty sure Putin would have let him know exactly what dirt he has on him in their private meeting a few weeks back.
Milton Glaser has provided the uniform patch for the US Space Force:
Pretty sure Putin would have let him know exactly what dirt he has on him in their private meeting a few weeks back.
Yeah, after Donny got up off his knees, Putin told him the cameras were actually filming them...
“Christ, what a knob, I knew I should have hoofed him in the slats and thrown him in the Tower when I had the chance!”
So, what's this stuff about a $3Bn bung for Trump from Saudia Arabia to re-impose sanctions on Iran?
I would not be a surprise if the “bung” is a potential contract for arms or oilfield equipment...
still a signed contract from a government is not a Purchase Order...
So do you think they thought very carefully before selecting the coppers to accompany the white supremacists march?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/12/us/politics/charlottesville-va-protest-unite-the-right.html
<p class="css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0">WASHINGTON — A year after the race-fueled violence in Charlottesville, Va., a small group of white nationalists marched through downtown Washington on Sunday on their way to a rally in front of the White House.</p>
<p class="css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0">It was over almost as soon as it began.</p>
<p class="css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0">The white supremacists were met along their march route and at the rally site by thousands of counterdemonstrators denouncing racism and white supremacy. The white nationalists, who numbered about two dozen, stayed in Lafayette Square, a park just north of the White House, for a short time and left before 6 p.m.</p>
<p class="css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0">They had been scheduled to hold a two-hour rally in the square beginning at 5:30. A spokesman for the National Park Service confirmed that the white nationalists had ended their event by that time.</p>
So do you think they thought very carefully before selecting the coppers to accompany the white supremacists march?
I think it sends the right message.
So eh can I take my flag pole down there?
As I understand it, ex-security chiefs in the USA retain access to restricted material so that they can be called upon to advise, from their experience and deep knowledge base, whoever is currently in any of those positions...
I guess if you wanted to deliberately start crippling your own country’s security arrangements (perhaps on behalf of a foreign power) by barring these “elders” from access, that would be as good a place to start as any.
Turns out that many American kids cereals have 100s x more than the WHO safe level of potentially carcinogenic pesticides, but the EPA are so understaffed (deliberate Trump policy) that they cant really do anything about it.
MAGA!
Its a very strange expression of patriotism isn't it - one that tramples the land, the environment and the health and well-being of the population underfoot in order to.... erm.... tax cuts.
And isn't it weird that he keeps having rallies.
Yes. It's the only part he enjoys, all that adulation feeds his ego.
And isn’t it weird that he keeps having rallies.
Fascists love a good rally
And isn’t it weird that he keeps having [s]rallies.[/s]
I think the phrase you intended to use is 'hand shandy'.
There’s nothing weird about that is there?
And isn’t it weird that he keeps having rallies.
There are continuous elections and revenue raising events in the USA. Very little time for government...
what is more interesting is the funding for the rallies. If they are federally funded then they cannot restrict entry. I believe that they are currently funded by the Republican Party so they can vet all entrants and employ actors to bulk the crowds...
And isn’t it weird that he keeps having rallies
Nope he launched is campaign so he can fund raise and funnel that how he likes. $$$$$$$$$$$$$
Is it really worth destroying the planet just so ninfan and pals can laugh at "lefties"?
So, essentially, 'You can only do science if it tells us what we want to hear'.
Stupid experts...
So, essentially, ‘You can only do science if it tells us what we want to hear’.
That’s the essence of the Trump/GOP echo chamber in a nutshell.
Came across these retro-style political posters from wokegiant.com the other day, I rather like them:
Even more Orwellian 1984 double speak from Rudy Giuliani.
https://twitter.com/NBCNewsPR/status/1031177136441356289
Loving that Giuliano interview
'Truth isn't Truth'. Kinda sums up the entirety of Trump.
Meanwhile Cohen looks to be charged with Fraud & campaign finance law breaches for paying off Trump's porn stars,
while Manafort is looking at a maximum of 305 years....
Awaits today's Twitter rantathon from the orange one 😁
Lock him up
Lock him up
Lock him up
I swear to to tell the thing that I made up and called the truth, the whole thing I made up and called the truth and nothing but something I made up and called the truth
As predicted , the ****nugget in chief has spent all morning tweeitng rants about conspiracy theories.
He's looking more desperate than ever. 😁😁
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/20/trump-brennan-security-clearance-cia-director
Rather than block him from Twitter, can’t we just block everyone from seeing his rants and ravings? a sort of ultimate ‘if we ignore him, he’ll just tire himself out/get bored and have a nap?’
Ignoring him from the start would have been the best approach, unfortunately nobody seems to be able to ignore him
unfortunately nobody seems to be able to ignore him
yeah until he is out of the office and we are watching him in the dock it's better to keep an eye on him.
Much the same as ignoring a dog poo, if you're not paying attention you'll get it all over your shoe.
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I can’t post the pic but if the information in the graphic is correct corruption and criminality in us government seems to be the norm rather than an aberration
corruption and criminality in us government seems to be the norm rather than an aberration
Republican Governments....
Just seen an article on the BBC,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45254374
This bit caught my eye...
Mr Trump also asserted that he could, if he wanted to, intervene in the investigation, but added that he had chosen not to do so for now.
"I've decided to stay out. Now I don't have to stay out. I can go in, and I could do whatever - I could run it if I want. But I decided to stay out," he said.
"I'm totally allowed to be involved if I wanted to be. So far, I haven't chosen to be involved. I'll stay out."
That's pretty much all bollocks isn't it? if he can (i suspect he actually can't, but his followers aren't gonna check), why wouldn't he? Too many strippers to pay off at the moment, too many rounds of golf to play?
And the whole I'm not gonna testify because you'll do me for perjury. Only if you lie, or have lied, Donald. Only if you tell lies.
That’s pretty much all bollocks isn’t it? if he can (i suspect he actually can’t, but his followers aren’t gonna check), why wouldn’t he? Too many strippers to pay off at the moment, too many rounds of golf to play?
I think that would be cast iron obstruction.
I think that would be cast iron obstruction.
Yeah, but then wouldn't there have to be another investigation (and endless twitter tirades) to prove it, all of which take time? not to mention give Don a chance to recruit more true believers against the Damn Gubmint?
“I’ve decided to stay out. Now I don’t have to stay out. I can go in, and I could do whatever – I could run it if I want. But I decided to stay out,” he said.
If Americans let this one carry on past November, then they have no-one to blame for the final lurch to autocracy. Everything else is falling into place, from military style policing, the lack of politically independent judiciary, and a congress and senate which, failing to hold the executive to account, is there simply for decoration and self-enrichment.
Yeah, but then wouldn’t there have to be another investigation
That one would probably go straight to congress/senate as an emergency issue - like Nixon firing AG's
He would also need to fire either Sessions or Rosenstein first which would start to get a lot of attention and push back
His rants are getting ever more bonkers.
The whole idea of a perjury 'trap' only works because he's a compulsive liar !
Wonder what the mannafort verdict will be? If it's not guilty Trump is going to go into overdrive claiming it as a vindication, almost want that to happen just to see how bonkers he'll go! Mannaforts facing at least 1 more trial already, so justice will catch up with him eventually.
But if manaforts guilty then Trump will go into another tweet rant frenzy.
The office of POTUS has become a circus
Cohen plea deal entered
I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:
Michael Cohen 'strikes plea deal' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45265546
But as every good mobster will tell you accidents can happen....
phew - I was worried this thread might lose momentum 🙂
Also attempts by Russian Oligarcrchs to discredit Steele Dossier quashed by US judge
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45251255
And Mannafort jury have said there's one out of 18 charges they haven't reached a unanimous verdict on.....
Bad day for Trumpy!
Genuine LOL here
Agent Orange just gets more toxic:
Is it wrong that I’m reading these posts, but hearing music?
Is it wrong that I’m reading these posts, but hearing music?
Is it this??