Dodging it for a second time there Mike, lets go for number three.
He can have a point in the credit column, still not going to add up against all the bad things though is it, did you hear that they accidentally deported the parents of the kids they had locked in cages before reuniting them.
#SO_SAD
Now if you want to go back and get going on the backlog of questions you forgot to answer....
Because theyre the same sad ******* that protest everything.
it’s always the same old characters, the same bunch of students, the same dog on a string brigade, the same bored middle class housewives.
Or maybe it's just people who believe that there's a better way than racism, sexism, islamaphobia? Maybe it's people who believe something strongly enough to go & have say & try to get their voices heard, instead of hiding behind a keyboard.
Out of curiosity, which one of the above am I?
@Mike: Lol, you know those kids in cages were photographed in 2014, right?
Or maybe it’s just people who believe that there’s a better way than racism, sexism, islamaphobia?
By smashing up a Starbucks?
I'll rephrase locking up kids. You know some of the camps are set up so you can't see much from the US side but the Mexicans an see them locked away. Nice guys there
By smashing up a Starbucks?
Certainly beats driving a car into people
By smashing up a Starbucks?
That's quite the jump.
Strap line from the march -
A day of celebration, noise and action. A day of joy, love, solidarity and resistance as we stand together in celebration of the diverse communities which make up our great city.
If I was Starbucks I would currently be quaking in my boots - tell you what Ninfan, pop down give us a wave & I'll buy you a coffee, not from Starbucks, but from somewhere local? Plan?
Certainly beats driving a car into people
Ah, so you’re saying that it’s OK to do shit, as long as you don’t go quite as far as the Nazi’s. Sweet, Donald will be over the moon at that 😉
pop down give us a wave
sorry, I’ll be busy up on a rooftop taking pot shots at an orange balloon to deflate it
Ah, so you’re saying
no, not at all.
Anyway here is a pic of the happy couple
Keep you going there ninfan, I like his embassy is getting a new wall, he will like that touch
I hope they got good double glazing there
By smashing up a Starbucks?
Who has smashed up a Starbucks? Considering that the Trump lovers have called for Starbucks to be boycotted when they dared to criticise him I am wondering why anti-Trump supporters would damage the place?
sorry, I’ll be busy up on a rooftop taking pot shots at an orange balloon to deflate it
Turning up in London, at a very heavily policed event taking shots?
Good luck with that. Your inconsequential rants will be missed.
sorry, I’ll be busy up on a rooftop taking pot shots at an orange balloon to deflate it
I agree he does have a head like an orange balloon, but openly threatening to assassinate trump is not too clever is it... but hey, you'll be doing the rest of us a favour. Carry on
Lol, you know those kids in cages were photographed in 2014, right?
I didn't, thanks for sharing.
Good site for checking things out there
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Seems like Trump scores high in the False 32% but only 15% in their Pants on Fire category.
Unsurprisingly, (to me at least) Obama is better across the board.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/
Doesn't go back to GWBush.
Lol, you know those kids in cages were photographed in 2014, right?
Yes, Trump is correct the picture is from 2014.
However, those were unaccompanied minors that the US gov were trying to find family or a safe sponsor.
A bit different to today, where the trump government is creating unaccompanied minors by tearing them away from family at the border.
The first rule in the art of the troll, is to not look beyond the headlines.
I mean the word "fact" is in the website name, perhaps you should check it. You right wingers are so easy to dismantle.
Yep statistically it's safe to assume everything Trump says is a lie first and be proven wrong.
He claimed to be well liked in the UK.
Yes, Trump is correct the picture is from 2014.
However, those were unaccompanied minors that the US gov were trying to find family or a safe sponsor.
...and therefore putting them in cages is *exactly* the right thing to do?
Yep, it's a petition over half a million people signed it.
So, if Donald did something good, you’d give him credit for it, yeah?
So... how's that there North Korean de-nuclearisation going, nitwitfan?
I'm concerned that someone from the other side of the pond may have hacked Nin Fan's account, can you check pls STW... #TrumpTroll
If the trump baby was encased in an inflatable cage it may appeal to Ninfan
Well somebody dropped their notes
Wow, just wow. He was asked about Brexit and he rambles on about winning electoral votes in Wisconsin and how that is better than Ronald Regans performance.
The most terrifying thing is that this is now normalised. This speech alone should be headline news as it seriously brings into question his basic intellect, understanding and competence. But it will not even make the news as it is just another drop in a sea of Trump turds.
how’s that there North Korean de-nuclearisation going
A bit bit better than the ehmygerdwe’reallgoingtodieinanooklearfireball hysteria the lefties were bandying around by the looks of things.
as it seriously brings into question his basic intellect, understanding and competence
ooh, we haven’t heard that one for a while - do you fancy trying to throw in some comments about dementia for the full house (funny, weave not heard anything about that one for a while isn’t it, nor do we appear to have heard much about grabbing pussies since Justin Trudeau’s shameful past got dragged back over the coals either. Funny that...)
So Ninfan, when you listen to that answer, how does that make you feel?
I've lost interest in Trump himself. He is exactly the president most suspected him to be. But I am interested in the minds of people who support him and can listen to that and not die a little inside. What positives did you get from that Ninfan?
Hey, remember this, lefties?
https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/114003
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Yup - it was debated in Parliament.
You've still not answered my question about what sort of protester I am.
President Trump is the head of state so like all other head of states they should be respected even if they are the enemy.
If people dislike him on the personal basis they can deal with him at personal level after his presidential term is over but not when he represents a country, that is the difference.
President Trump is here on official visit and not on his personal golfing adventure.
What positives did you get from that Ninfan?
Well, what I did was bother to watch a bit more of it than the usual media sources fed me, and I discovered Donalds commitment to world peace and complete nuclear disarmament.
President Trump is the head of state so like all other head of states they should be respected even if they are the enemy.
Why?
Answer the actual question. How did his ability to answer that question on Brexit make you feel?
A bit bit better than the ehmygerdw...
So, how's that there North Korean denuclearisation going there, nitwitfan?
President Trump is the head of state so like all other head of states they should be respected even if they are the enemy.
If people dislike him on the personal basis they can deal with him at personal level after his presidential term is over but not when he represents a country, that is the difference.
But didn't you hear him - we all like him. What you talking about?
No, people dislike him but mostly they detest him policies. Protesting a visiting head of state because of his policies feels absolutely appropriate.
funny, weave
You said it, fella.
Well, what I did was bother to watch a bit more of it than the usual media sources fed me
But the media didn't edit his words, he actually said those words, in that combination.
he rambles on about winning electoral votes in Wisconsin and how that is better than Ronald Regans performance.
Dont forget his golf courses as well. It is impressively self centred.
President Trump is the head of state so like all other head of states they should be respected even if they are the enemy.
Are you seriously suggesting that any head of state should be respected? We should have respected Saddam, Stalin and so on?
I discovered Donalds commitment to world peace and complete nuclear disarmament.
Whilst not answering the question. I think he got some of his answers from his time hanging around miss world for the articles of course. Not sure why you want to prove with that clip
We should have respected Saddam, Stalin and so on?
I thought it was only Labour MP’s who did that?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIy_GmvUElE
Still not answering the question there..... #Shocked #sadface
I thought it was only Labour MP’s who did that?
of course you did, but you'd be wrong (as usual)
Not sure why you want to prove with that clip
Its especially odd since it was reported on both the BBC and in the Guardian. Its just, for some odd reason, other parts of the speech were seen as more relevant.
Why?
His official title is the President of United State of America.
Not President of Trump Corporation.
That is the difference.
If you are disrespectful to the President of USA you are basically saying you hate the entire population of USA ... including all the multiple ethnicities.
Remember in USA you have Democrats who you might have same ideology with but when you disrespect the President, you also turn your back to the people with the same ideology as you because they are also being represented by the same President.
Do you think the entire USA, Russia, North Korea, Iran have only one ideology?
Show respect and the world would show respect in return.
Are you seriously suggesting that any head of state should be respected? We should have respected Saddam, Stalin and so on?
If he is on official visit (if you invite them) then you show respect to them, if you do not want to respect them why the invitation?
Show respect in a civilise way and you might change them.
Show respect and the world would show respect in return.
You are using that as an argument to show respect to Trump? I dont think you have thought that one through.
Now come on chewkw you let slip some much better writing on the football thread, bring some of it here....
The respect trump showed the kids he removed from their families is a good starting point.
A bit bit better than the ehmygerdw
So, how big and beautiful has the wall managed to be yet then, nitwitfanny?
You are using that as an argument to show respect to Trump? I dont think you have thought that one through.
President Trump. The head of state of USA.
On a personal basis I do not know him to disrespect him.
If PM May visit another country representing the British people, how would you feel if the host country starts to burn the British flag and make disrespectful gestures towards the British PM?
Remember, the world is watching the British people and they don't know the protestors' ideology.
I thought it was only Labour MP’s who did that?
If he is on official visit (if you invite them) then you show respect to them, if you do not want to respect them why the invitation?
I am sure May will be holding his hand or giving him a leg trembler in the long room if Philip isn't looking and being all diplomatic and nicy nicy. She after all invited him. I don't recall sending the invite personally.
The serfs however, who you might have noticed don't really care for May either, will be happy to tell him exactly what we think of him and his policies. Actually more accurately reminding the US public what we think of the muppet they elected.
The respect trump showed the kids he removed from their families is a good starting point.
How about the respect those parents showed to US immigration laws?
Dont want to get locked up away from your kids, don’t break the law - pretty simple isn’t it?
The serfs however, who you might have noticed don’t really care for May either, will be happy to tell him exactly what we think of him.
The same ‘serfs’ who marched through London confidently telling the world that ‘we’ didnt want to leave the EU (just before watching the silent majority vote to leave, LOL)
Now come on chewkw you let slip some much better writing on the football thread, bring some of it here….
Slight hijack.
That was the football talking. 😀
How about the respect those parents showed to US immigration laws?
Dont want to get locked up away from your kids, don’t break the law – pretty simple isn’t it?
Was having more of a thought for the kids.
And while we are on the topic of Respect
Londoners have always chosen hope over fear, unity over division, and have approached challenges with optimism rather than despair. We should be immensely proud of our values: our respect for everyone, regardless of who they are or where they come from, our celebration of diversity, our commitment to fairness and equality, and our openness and positivity about the future.
The peaceful protests that will take place tomorrow against President Trump are not anti-American — far from it. The vast majority of those marching on Friday love the United States, just as I do. I love the people, the culture, the history and the values of the US, and I cherish the “special relationship” for its enormously positive impact on our society, economy and security. I have family and friends who live in America, and I will never forget the excitement of my first trip to Boston and New York at the age of 20 — a feeling I still get every time I am fortunate enough to visit.
As Mayor of London I value enormously the relationships I have struck up with fellow mayors and people across the US. I also know how many Americans contribute to the vibrancy and success of our own city.
Of course, having a special relationship means standing resolutely by the US in times of adversity, as we have time and time again. But the very specialness of our relationship means that we expect the highest standards from each other, and it also means speaking out when we think one side is not living up to the values we hold dear. Like many Londoners I feel that now is one of those occasions.
In response to Rasnos' 3 photos:
1) Pinochet: Helped us in the Falklands.
2) Munich: Hitler needed an immediate war. By offering concessions over Czechoslovakia (Or was it Poland?) Chamberlain cheated Hitler out of an immediate war which allowed all the Allies the chance to re-arm so when the war happened it was a war of attrition which the Nazi's could never hope to win. Also exposed Hitler to the world as someone who could never be trusted to keep to a treaty, effectively denying him any new allies. Hitler acknowledged all of that and blamed Chamberlain for delaying the war and thus causing Germany's destruction. This goes beyond Munich and is well worth a listen: https://www.historyextra.com/period/second-world-war/the-munich-conference/
3) Stalin's usefulness to us in WW2 is beyond debate.
So that's three examples where meeting bad people has been in the UK national interest and two of them where meeting bad people was in the world's interest.
I appreciate it's not the point Rasnos was making but don't they demonstrate how useful it is to meet bad people? And if Trump's a halfwit it should be easy to run circles round him and gain huge advantage.
If France can talk to Trump so can we. I doubt he'll outwit our Foreign Office packed full of Oxbridge double firsts.
If France can talk to Trump so can we.
Except we are not, it's a pure photo op golf holiday.
We spoke to him at the G7, NATO, previous G7 etc.
And if Trump’s a halfwit it should be easy to run circles round him and gain huge advantage.
As the old saying goes Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
How can you deal with somebody who changes their mind that often, breaks promises and would stab anyone on the back for the sake of a tweet.
Except we are not, it’s a pure photo op golf holiday.
I don't sense that if it was a longer visit with more meetings you'd be happy. 😀
How can you deal with somebody who changes their mind that often, breaks promises and would stab anyone on the back for the sake of a tweet.
Hitler did all of those except the tweet and a UK PM meeting Hitler was massively beneficial to the UK and the World. ...and we know after the night of the long knives a stab on(sic) the back from Hitler was often not a metaphorical one!
That brexit ramble was magnificent.
A true sign of a great statesman 😁
The man's an arse, it's nice to see him getting the welcome he deserves from the public, even as brexit leaves us so desperate that May is forced to toady up to him, no matter how much he insults her, wonder if he really will meet Johnson !
If the UK did not deal with unpalatable leaders our access to fuels, raw materials and cheap goods would be severely curtailed.
Anyone looking at this on an Apple device must be well aware of the Foxconn suicides on the assembly line, the less than wonderful conditions for the miners and mineral processors in the supply chain. Even after publication of the data there was no backlash
the crux is we like these deals to be made as the are often of great benefit and we don’t care about the abuses as long as we don’t hear about them.
You have to wonder if Trump is pushing really bad stuff in the background while distracting people with just bad stuff on Twitter... I guess the biggest issue is the president of the USA is supposed to at least put up a front of acceptability
So the North Koreans didn’t turn up for a meeting about repatriating American war dead. Yes it is all going very well.
So how's the NK denuclearisation coming along there, nitwitfanny?
How big and beautiful is the wall, so far?
Take your time... 😂
The peaceful protests that will take place tomorrow against President Trump are not anti-American — far from it. The vast majority of those marching on Friday love the United States, just as I do. I love the people, the culture, the history and the values of the US,
True that, after all, you only need to look how much he supported Louis Farrakhan in seeking to overturn his ban from the UK due to racist and anti-semitic speeches.
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If you are disrespectful to the President of USA you are basically saying you hate the entire population of USA
Hmm, i must have missed that memo.......
Shocking scenes at the protests. I can't believe in 2018 people don't shower or wash and cut their hair.
I don't much care for our leader. That doesn't mean I disrespect the British people. Well not all of them.
I can’t believe in 2018 people don’t shower or wash and cut their hair.
Wow, what a coincidence - I'm sure I've seen some people like that at other recent protests about various entirely unconnected issues. What are the chances?
I can’t believe in 2018 people don’t shower or wash and cut their hair.
I know right, I mean which group would you rather hang out with, this lot? who are probably smelly & unkempt
Or this lot of well groomed young chaps?
If you are disrespectful to the President of USA you are basically saying you hate the entire population of USA … including all the multiple ethnicities.
Even the Americans aren't dumb enough to believe that.
Wow, what a coincidence – I’m sure I’ve seen some people like that at other recent protests about various entirely unconnected issues. What are the chances?
People like what?
If you are disrespectful to the President of USA you are basically saying you hate the entire population of USA … including all the multiple ethnicities
ffs, Whoever said that really isn’t equipped with the intelligence to discuss anything like an adult.
Even in the internet, where the standards are spectacularly low, that stands out as utter horse shit 😳
Wow, what a coincidence – I’m sure I’ve seen some people like that at other recent protests about various entirely unconnected issues. What are the chances?
Unwashed smelly arseholes in London
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Look at this frightful bunch.
I can see why ninfan is terrified of them
The promised destruction of 'Obamacare' doesn't seem to have happened.
What went wrong, ninny?
Where do his supporters stand on the allegations of sexual assault?
https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/14/politics/trump-women-accusers/index.html
https://twitter.com/zaidmarham/status/1017478018716045312
Man it looks intimidating out there, I bet the riot squad are bricking it when they bring out tea and cake later
Though have you ever seen 4 people who really want to be somewhere else
Manafort s been moved out the cushty jail for porky pieing, crazy how stupid these people are.
That judge must have some scottish ancestry
Sad , eh?