Sacking your Secretary of State via Twitter has to be a new low in US Politics. 🙂
Who in their right mind would want to work with this coward?
Looking like the Democrats may well have taken a Congress seat in a district won by 20 points by Trump in 2016...you have to wonder at what point self-preservation will kick in for the remaining GOP congressmen and women. Do you cravenly stand by your unhinged POTUS and lose your seat?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43388150
New low? time for another one going from +20 to losing in a safe seat....
Time to blame the candidate, blame the press, blame the weather
Republican sway over the district is so strong that Democrats have run no candidates in the previous two votes.
The contest could set the tone for November's US mid-term polls.
Republican House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan called the race a "wakeup call" for the party.
Still waiting for the official result but it looks blue
ninfan? Care to?
Mr Woppit
Member
ninfan? Care to?
It’ll just be another snide comment about lefty libtards or some such bollocks.
Do you cravenly stand by your unhinged POTUS and lose your seat?
A record number are planning to stand down at or before the midterms, which is a headache for the Reps
while the Dems are on a roll at the moment, who knows what that orange shitgibbon will do before november, his base are still holding in there,
Lol always love the base comments... It's not enough to get elected
A bunch if people who voted for him just voted blue a kicking in the mid terms would be a disaster for him especially as the Senate committee is still hearing testimony (the witness list keeps getting longer) I'd expect the line to emerge as the nk talks go bad is any president could have got a meeting they just didn't want one.
Think it was on a 538 podcast where they asked the question would you like 2hrs with trump on a truth serum or 10mins with each of his cabinet on the same. Conclusion was trump can't remember what is truth or lie so it wouldn't work. And sessions telling the truth would be fun.
Lol always love the base comments… It’s not enough to get elected
unless the other candidate is shit/ has been monstered by your chum in Moscow & the dems dont bother to vote again
That isn't his base, take a look at the strongly approve numbers they are mostly a subset of republicans anyway. Problem is the reps hate tariffs, he has betrayed both sides on daca alienated people and not delivered much. His first hurdle is mid terms, after that it's the fbi and Senate intelligence, then I to the primaries for 2020.
Tillerson was also one of the last grown ups in the room too, a final non conforming voice has been booted so expect more trump and less moderation aka shit and fan panics.
Much as I dislike James Corden, this is nicely done..
Oooh. 2 hours with Trump on a truth serum or 10 minutes with Corden on fire?
Difficult.
The man just makes stuff up, and brags about it!
That's not really news is it though?, every time trump opens his mouth lies pour out.
Looking like H R McMaster to go next.
That’s not really news is it though?,
Its unusual for him to admit to it.
This is amazing- thanks Infowars
The real crazy, of course, is in the comments
So he fires the head of the FBI, 2 days before he as due to retire anyway, thus depriving him of a full pension. That seems a bit a shitty move.
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/974769276459651072?s=19
"Obviously the president was [s]lying[/s] joking"
So he fires the head of the FBI, 2 days before he as due to retire anyway, thus depriving him of a full pension. That seems a bit a shitty move.
It wasn't Trump. There was an internal discipline hearing and he was fired for being corrupt. Half a million bribe via is wife from Clinton, lying and leaking. If he doesn't end up in prison he'll have got off very lightly.
Half a million bribe via is wife from Clinton, lying and leaking. If he doesn’t end up in prison he’ll have got off very lightly
Bribe? She was a democrat running for office ... It's one way to spin it.
He was fired by US Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who said an internal review found he leaked information and misled investigators
So fired by sessions, number 2 on the Russia collusion list. A man who lied under oath and had to remove himself from an investigation into himself. Not very transparent
The late Stephen Hawking on Donald Trump: "He is a demagogue, who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator."
Pretty much covers it.
Senior FBI man testifies to House Intelligence Committee that he can back up James Comey's testimony in what may yet be an obstruction of justice case. Sudden extra effort from Sessions to discredit that FBI man by shoving him out of the door and possibly stripping him of pension rights.
Seems tactically somewhat blatant and naive.
McCabe's statement here.
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/974833863200518146
There was an internal discipline hearing and he was fired for being corrupt. Half a million bribe via is wife from Clinton, lying and leaking. If he doesn’t end up in prison he’ll have got off very lightly.
It worries me that folk will print and possibly believe such blatant lies
Sessions said the review found McCabe allegedly “made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor” during a review of the FBI and justice department’s handling of an investigation into the Clinton Foundation.
The bribe claim is an outright lie, defamatory and something you could not uphold in a court of law. Its compete BS . With all the fringe right the only real question is whether they know they are liars or whether they are as stupid as believe what they type
Ironcialy the statement went on to say
all FBI employees know that lacking candor under oath results in dismissal and that our integrity is our brand’”.
Sessions must be relieved he can hold people to a standard he cannot meet- I believe his defence was he did not lie he just made "false statements"
It worries me that folk will print and possibly believe such blatant lies
It is quite amazing.
The weird thing about all of this is that if the FBI influenced the election at all it was in Trumps favour.
true the clinton e-mail scenario is the single biggest impact they had on the result and he still got fired by Trump.
The bribe claim is an outright lie, defamatory and something you could not uphold in a court of law.
One word:
"collusion"
The lefties are pretty keen to throw about all sorts of extraordinary allegations of wrongdoing by other people, but when the worm turns and the truth comes back to bite them in the arse immediately cry "show us the proof" (see Jezza's defence of Russia this week as a prime example)
Donald's just proved it again, they don't like it up them.
YAWN
Remind me how many charges have been laid against people on the trump campaign? Did one of those people plead guilty? It appears more and more is coming true and being proved
[i]ninfan wrote:[/i]
One word:
“collusion”
You, jamba and 5th? You're not doing a very good job.
The lefties are pretty keen to throw about all sorts of extraordinary allegations
Like "President Obama is a Kenyan Muslim"? Or "Hillary Clinton is at the heart of a secret sex abuse/murder conspiracy based out of a Washington DC pizza restaurant"? That kind of extraordinary allegation? Or a different kind?
More collusion for ninfan:
Kind of pointless tweet. It's far above Mr Trump's reading age
A fascinating read in today's Guardian with more detail about the role of Cambridge Analytica and its harvesting of FB Data/Russian links. Also relevant to the Brexit vote, given the amount that Leave invested in its services.
The weaponising of social media in democracy.
The GOP railed against Obama and the national debt while he was in office, and how Trump would get it down through fiscal responsibility; funny how quiet they are about the national debt now...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/under-donald-trump-national-debt-tops-21-trillion-for-first-time-ever/
yourguitarhero
Member
Kind of pointless tweet. It’s far above Mr Trump’s reading age
It’s ok, his nanny will read it to him at bedtime.
Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal both claim unprotected sex with Trump at about the same time - STI checks, anyone? About 9 months after provable unprotected sex with Melania. As for Ivanka, who knows?
Trump claims he's a germaphobe? Yes, I know, bodily fluids don't transmit germs.
Can't wait for the vids of either or both.
Did Melania have the slightest clue about what she was getting into? Dumb? possibly; Naive? - probably.
Deceived? Yes. But soon to become v wealthy unless Don's 'wealth' evaporates.
It must have been a bit sticky for the orange faced buffoon.
Tillerson's assessment of Trump seems to be spot on.
<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;"> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-national-security-advisers-warned-him-not-to-congratulate-putin-he-did-it-anyway/2018/03/20/22738ebc-2c68-11e8-8ad6-fbc50284fce8_story.html?utm_term=.c8f43855590e</span>
Maybe they'll need to review the 'Do Not Push' note on his big nuclear button.
So American politics continues to be largely playground-based, with Trump now saying he could definitely take Joe Biden in a fight and make him cry!
Biden was quoted, at an anti-sexual assault rally, as saying:
"A guy who ended up becoming our national leader said, 'I can grab a woman anywhere and she likes it..
"They asked me if I’d like to debate this gentleman, and I said no. I said if we were in high school, I’d take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him.'"
To which Trump's modern day presidential response, with all the dignity and gravitas befitting his office, was:
http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/976765417908776963
Pitysake!
I love the “go down fast and hard, crying” line.
There’s got to be a Stormy Daniels gag in there somewhere.
Whats in Stormy Daniels?
More from the Donald making sure his base are clearly identified by removing anyone who was wavering a bit, he will be left with all the really really mad ones
Donnie's a real tough guy - between tackling shooters unarmed, and flooring elderly former vice presidents (who should know better) 🙂
So thats his chief Lawyer quit then
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/22/politics/john-dowd-white-house/index.html
Could we seeTrump try & fire Meuller over Easter?
Could we seeTrump try & fire Meuller over Easter?
Can he do that ?
In theory I think he can but both the Republicans and Democrats consider it a very unwise move.
A bit of searching because, you know, I'm not a top US lawyer. From vox.com
Mueller was appointed under a Justice Department regulation that sets restrictions on just how and why he can be fired.
<p id="iKdZW3">The how, in this case, is by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein (since his boss Jeff Sessions recused himself). Rosenstein appointed Mueller, and according to the regulation, he’s the only person who can fire him.</p>
<p id="ESv0kU">Then there’s the why, which is also very important here. The regulation states that a special counsel can’t be fired on a whim. Instead, it says, he or she can only be fired for “misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause.”</p>
The stuff I have listened to comes up with it would take a determined hour or so to do it, he would have to get rid of Rosenstein and then keep firing until somebody would get rid of Muller. Other way is to fire Sessions and replace him as AG with a yes man - most likely Pruitt but and it's a big but there the new AG would need a confirmation hearing which needs Democrat votes to get through and would be very much tied to a vote protecting Muller.
The other line of thinking is taking the heat for firing Muller now is better than the implication of him facing any charges not as president. It was suggested that if he was to do something he needs to do it now to allow the Reps to recover somehow (impeachment) before November
Pitysake!
Yesterday I met someone who works at one of Trump's lovely Scottish resorts. When Mr T would visit (back before he had to pretend he'd severed all ties with the Trump Org.) there were standing orders to staff that 'if anyone tries to have a go at the Donald your job is to form a human shield'
We're not talking about someone working in Close Protection. She's a cleaner.
a Stormy Daniels gag
giggidy
I have to say. After a year of Trump, and this thread, I'm better qualified for a job in the HR dept of the Whitehouse than I was after the last 47 years-worth of observing presidents from 3246 miles away.
The trouble is The Donald has no adult supervision, so can get away with whatever he wants, especially as he’s been gifted the power to fire any adults selected to supervise him if he can’t get his way.
the implication of him facing any charges not as president
I've wondered about that. It does feel like various parties are sitting on a ton of allegations and evidence, waiting for the best time to reveal it. Everything Trump has ever done is been under a huge microscope for the last 18 months (and more)..... and this is DONALD TRUMP - a property developer in NY city in the 1980s.
It really doesn't feel like the Dem's are putting together a concerted effort to unseat him - maybe they are applying the old adage of "never interrupt your enemy whilst they are making a mistake"? Or maybe they just couldn't find their arse with both hands?
its a busy day
Well they do say a high staff turnover is indicative of a bad manager. It seems like there's a few senior people jumping ship or being sacked every week.
It really doesn’t feel like the Dem’s are putting together a concerted effort to unseat him – maybe they are applying the old adage of “never interrupt your enemy whilst they are making a mistake”? Or maybe they just couldn’t find their arse with both hands?
You can't score if you don't have the ball. They don't have enough votes unless the mid terms take a big swing (like the 20pt swing last week) best they can hope for is 2 years of pence with no majority. Can it happen?
The sheer level of panic and attacks on the judiciary say he is very worried, lots of people know what has gone down you can't pay them all off.
Japanese stocks down four percent.
Trump's hard-talk may end up crashing the stock market...or he could get the concessions he wants. He certainly likes to gamble. But this could be a gamble too far.
The average career in the Trump administration:
Not sure any president has ever had so many porn stars ignoring their payoffs to dish the dirt on him?
Clinton obviously a serial philanderer & it didn't end well for him
Melania must be thrilled, with tonight's stormy Daniels interview
The new national security advisor is another wannabe hard man - keen on sending other people to fight wars, not so keen on going himself so joined the home guard to dodge the draft. Typical right wing bampot hypocrisy
Karen McDougal now claims to of had an affair with trump
it's getting pathetic now this media hounding. must be a year now , i'm sick of this crap in the news daily, on par with brexit talk.what relevance does a woman that had an affair with an old man got to do with anything? Then you have these stupid snl sketches showing up on youtube which are just plain cringey and embarrassing. Has nobody got anything going on with their lives that they watch these jimmy (insert surname) shows just to see what trump diss they can give.
*disclaimer: i support no political parties whatsoever, i just want normal news and tv back.
@rmacattack - I wonder if it's a harking back to the day when politicians were characters rather than corporate yes (wo)men? In the 1970s there were the likes of Wilson, Heath, Healey and in the 1980s the Thatcher and shadow cabinets. Today there's really only Boris Johnson with his amiable buffoon persona and perhaps Jacob Rees-Mogg (not forgetting Dennis Skinner!) who stand out.
The fact that Trump makes no bones about lying (see the comments about his talks with Trudeau) but is also a narcissistic petulant bully who just happens to hold the most powerful political job in the western world is manna from heaven for the chattering classes.
As Henry Kissinger noted, power is the ultimate aphrodisiac. JFK, perhaps the POTUS most revered in recent times, didn't exactly play at home all the time.
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">what</span>relevance does a woman that had an affair with an old man got to do with anything?
It would get you a fail on a lot of security clearance tests if you were still keeping it a secret.
A lot of Christian right wingers don't approve of affairs
You end up with a leader with no moral authority, who is a laughing stock.
The bigger issue is he has failed to achieve anything significant his budget plans got scuppered this week too
*disclaimer: i support no political parties whatsoever, i just want normal news and tv back.
Trump isn't delivering normal - blame him. The firings, sex scandals, inappropriate behaviour, failure to do the right thing has been brought on himself.
Odds on Bernie Eccleston getting a whitehouse appointment are starting to narrow
Trump isn’t delivering normal – blame him. The firings, sex scandals, inappropriate behaviour, failure to do the right thing has been brought on himself
Because literally none of those things have ever taken place in Washington before... it’s even amusing that you are referring to “sex scandals” based on something he’s alleged to have done years before he was President, given Clinton, JFK and LBJ’s philandering while in office (and THE office...)
The bigger issue is he has failed to achieve anything significant
I note youve tried this one for some time, without ever defining what “significant” means.
Stuff that hasn't happened - record turnover of staff in the whitehouse, whats the record for affairs and sexual harassment allegations (oh and for irony the precedent for the current harassment case was due to the case against Bill Clinton as lead by Kelly Ann Conways husband), his ignoring of advice from people who actually know what they are doing etc.
Border Wall? Nope
Immigration Controls? slashed and crippled and in court
Tax Reform? Just, though spending cuts were rejected in the current spending bill to avoid a shut down
Affordable Care? Still there
What has he actually delivered ninfan? What bits of policy is he winning at?
I notice you have no real answers as usual.
Because literally none of those things have ever taken place in Washington before
Do you really want to use Clinton as an example? I cant see the rabid right crying for investigations like they did for Clinton. Its odd how the moral majority are quite flexible with their morals isnt it?
It really is odd how all these outstanding Christians are still standing behind him and not condemning him for adultery etc.
So now he's threatening to veto the finance bill, because the democrats have abandoned Dreamers. Even by trump standards this is weird
Yep, Trump is the kid who does the exact opposite of what he is told to do, he isn't playing politics he is playing look at me. Yes we are all looking, some are looking quite closely, I believe Miss Storm in his Pants is airing her interview shortly, should make for good viewing, who is hoping there is a birth mark?
Unfortunatly like the UK all this sham is doing is holding back progress and stagnating things, it's not going to be good in the long term.
I guess it's also taking ninfan a little while to compile the list of Trumps achievments as opposed to the top 10 tweets
I wonder if Twitter should bill US government for "services rendered" now that the US is governed via Twitter??
Hmm Mike, who to believe? You or everybody else:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/what-trump-is-actually-accomplishing/535458/
http://www.newsweek.com/here-are-six-successes-donald-trumps-first-year-president-765107
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/12/30/trumps_2017_top_10_achievements_135885.html
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/366429-trumps-top-10-accomplishments-of-2017
Wow that top 10 from the hill is awesome, be nasty to cuba, make a stupid mistake in Israel, pull out of something (yep the only thing he has got into is women who are not his wife), his immigration plans are in the court etc.
And yes today screwed up a bipartisan budget deal.
Ah your the other idiot that fell for that one, you promise it but defer it so you don't actually have to do the monumentally stupid thing.
you promise it but defer it so you don’t actually have to do the monumentally stupid thing.
Ah, a bit like like closing Guantanamo then?
Funny how you lefties never got upset about any of Obama's lies isn't it?
You didn't appear too fussed about the sex scandals either:
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/obama-accuser-larry-sincl_n_107900
So you want everything investing properly? We should start with pussy grabbing or sexual assault as it's better known.
At least he's getting the budget deficit down like he promised........
“What has he actually delivered ninfan? What bits of policy is he winning at?”
Eh, leadership for bigoted xenophobic ****holes. I though that much was obvious
The thing is politics has always been dirty, always been scandal. But now it's the new hip trend wagon to trump bash. The new saturday night trivial topic. Every politician ever was an asshole and everybody on here knows that.
Don't be silly.
So we should ignore corruption, blackmailable actions, and possible illegal activity?
I've met a number of deeply honerable and trust worthy politicians who are working for the good of people and progress, not everyone has to be an arsehole. Trump promised to drain the swamp, remove corruption, he has only made it worse.
Persoanlly I think it is very important to know the depth and penetration (no not that one) of Russian involvement in the election, that is the main thrust of what is going on.
The actions around Mullers investigation is getting close to a watergate type situation if he tries to overstep his authority, that is news worthy.
Next to that there have been a number of payments tosilence people, there is possible legal implicaions of those to Miss Daniels depending on who authorised them, if laws have been broken charges should follow.
Trump is a big boy, he tells everyone how tough he is, I'm amazed any of this even gets a tiny flinch of a reaction from him.
If not he really shouldn't be doing the job.
Don’t forget the nepotism.
I reckon it’s time to get the popcorn In as he seems to have got rid of the people holding him back so we should be seeing the full on trump soon.