probably why the Jewish reporter went to such lengths to point out that no one had accused Trump of being anti semiticTrump = anti-Semitc thing is a bit if a stretch as the Americans would say.
Like you its the Muslims he dislikes and he attempts to demonise them, as you have, and he uses the race card, as you have, to garner votes/support.
Still I can only imagine your reaction had a rabid lefty [ or even Hilary]got into power and anti semitic attacks were on the rise
For some reason when a leader supported by white supremacists and with KKK links gets in and the attacks on the diaspora rise you remain silent on the issue except to say he is not anti -semitic
The problem is some of his supporters are and some of them are just outright racists ans some of them are white supremacists and he has emboldened them so jewish folk are less safe. as the Donald would say
Sad, this is bad.
GWB was President in 2001 are you sure Trump is much worse than him?
Yes, he is much worse. His opening salvo of policy, his open attacks on the judicial system give him that title for now.
Right, so let's get this straight, Trump criticising some judges is a [b]worse[/b] attack on the judicial system of the United States that GWB kidnapping people from other countries, shipping them to CIA black sites, water boarding them and keeping them locked up in cages indefinitely?
And you wonder why people think the political left have lost all sense of proportion when it comes to Donald Trump!
Only rabid right wingers - or those who pretend for forum fun - think the political left has lost all sense of proportion- tbh many on the right are saying the same thing - though of course John Mccain may have become a lefty in the last few weeks who knows
Actually this is pointless at the time you were explaining the geneva convention to us[ why it did not apply] and how unlawful combatants had no rights and explaining how it was all legal
I think i might change file blocker to simply say
Ninfan said something that contradicts everything he ever said simply to provoke a lefty [ whereby lefty is anyone with morals a soul or cares - heck even THM might be one in your eyes]
PS remember not even he believes the stuff he posts
ninfan - MemberRight, so let's get this straight, Trump criticising some judges is a worse attack on the judicial system of the United States that GWB kidnapping people from other countries, shipping them to CIA black sites, water boarding them and keeping them locked up in cages indefinitely?
Trump promised to bring back water boarding during his campaign....maybe he already has.
Right, so let's get this straight, Trump criticising some judges is a worse attack on the judicial system of the United States that GWB kidnapping people from other countries, shipping them to CIA black sites, water boarding them and keeping them locked up in cages indefinitely?
You do realise Trump has promised to resurrect that practice, don't you?
As a president, it remains to be seen who Trump will be compared against, but as a figurehead and public speaker, his only direct comparison is to monkeys flinging their own faeces, although I bet monkeys have more empathy.
First US president to get impeached!
depends on whether the republicans think he will do more damage to them in power or impeached
First US president to get impeached!
You can file that alongside Trump's facts about the size of his election win.
indeed a few have been impeached - or charged- but none convicted
Nixon resigned to avoid the inevitable
IIRC he also went to war with the "liars in the press"
Junky - so go on then, do it, put me on you file blocker, I dare you, it really would break my little heart.
I just don't understand why you don't just go ahead and do it instead of broadcasting it out to be some kind of major threat
*passive-aggressive attention whore alert*
Go on, do it, do it, do it - block me! You don't need to broadcast it, just do it, less virtue signalling, more action.
Thing is, I bet you keep reading and replying, won't you? You can't not, can you?
I think he will chuck the towel in, it's all getting too difficult and he is not getting his way. Will announce he tried but the Judges,Media, Congress, Republicans wouldn't let him change things..
Then we get President Pence
Ahhh it's all gone "handbags"
The Reps will allow the buffoon to put through as many of their policies as possible before pulling the plug. They know a simpleton patsy when they see one.
Scott Pruitt is possibly the most ominous appointment yet.
[quote=Junkyard ][ whereby lefty is anyone with morals a soul or cares - heck even THM might be one in your eyes]
As much as it might pain you, I've already claimed him as one of us on this thread.
THM Is a one nation tory and he does care about the poor/needy/unfortunate
Where we differ on is whether capitalism can cure poverty or whether it requires state intervention. He is just as uncomfortable with suffering as I am but less bothered by unequal distribution of wealth.
Ninfan [ careful now that is the sort of meltdown you are trying to provoke not DO yourself] the reason i appeal to you is despite your scribbles on here you are clearly a bright intelligent and sensitive - your daughter thread for example - who is simply typing things like that for a reaction rather than because you actually believe what you say.
Truthfully I feel a little like luke skywalker to Darth vader[ forgive me but you get the point] - I have seen the good in you so I appeal to your better side in the hope you can be yourself and stop "trolling" just for reactions
Actually scrap that now I know it winds you up perhaps I should use your MO against you as lets be honest who cares what we say as long as it provokes a response in someone preferably one as strong as that in you or should I do the grown up mature thing snowflake? 😉
The desperation of Trump's supporters on here, in the face of his increasingly bizarre behaviour, to defend him no matter what simply because he is not representative of their hated "left-wing" politics, is a wonder.
One of their character traits is the they simply cannot admit when they are wrong so cannot admit to him being less than perfect for them. Not sure what he would have to do, kill a baby on live TV? (but even then it would be discounted as fake news)
Nah i think we are misunderestimating him. To his fans it will be great to see him stick it to the media they wont care that he did it in a fake news way and he was more guilty of all the claims than they are
they will just see one of them sticking it to the man and all the attacks are proof of how much power they have and how they attack folk
the problem he has, longer term, is POTUS needs to lead a country not lead a protest group and he has to try and build consensus on the hill and in the country he seems uninterested in either of these choices
Essentially he wants the adulation of being popular but not the tough choices and compromises that inevitably come with being POTUS
My realisation is that he is in a period of celebrating his victory, as if that is all that it was actually about. His constant reference to his victory, the exaggerations, the bullshit, the references to how crap Clinton was. He expected the adulation of the press, he just wants to read how awesome the MSM think he was. His narcissism can't see past that.
Now however we have the next phase, an extension of that victory. He speaks to those who voted for him as the beneficiaries of his largesse. He's doing what they want, what he promised, and he's using the prejudices they and he fervently believed when things don't fit his plans ( if you can call them plans.) His popularity is born from what is happening now, except the pointy headed ****-wits who get their news from the conspiracy theory sites are now being fed giant-sized portions of confirmation bias, live on TV.
Anyone who didn't vote for him is an irrelevance. Look at the transcript of his references to Obamacare:
"Obamacare is a disaster, folks. It is's disaster. I know you can say, oh, Obamacare. I mean, they fill up our alleys with people that you wonder how they get there, but they are not the Republican people our that representatives are representing."
So if you aren't on team Trump, take a hike.
As it was pointed out before some people who voted for him voted Republican not Trump. They won't support him for long.
ninfan
Junky - so go on then, do it, put me on you file blocker, I dare you, it really would break my little heart.I just don't understand why you don't just go ahead and do it instead of broadcasting it out to be some kind of major threat
*passive-aggressive attention whore alert*
Go on, do it, do it, do it - block me! You don't need to broadcast it, just do it, less virtue signalling, more action.
Thing is, I bet you keep reading and replying, won't you? You can't not, can you?
And Trumps PLAYGROUND POLITICS finds it's true home.
My realisation is that he is in a period of celebrating his victory, as if that is all that it was actually about. His constant reference to his victory, the exaggerations, the bullshit, the references to how crap Clinton was. He expected the adulation of the press, he just wants to read how awesome the MSM think he was. His narcissism can't see past that.
Jesus, what a heap of amateur cod-psycho-analysis
Why don't people actually see what's in front of their noses
Listen to the last minute of the Gorka interview - he actually tells you exactly what is going on!
TRump won the election by cutting the media out of the loop and speaking directly to the electorate, they have learned that lesson and made it direct policy. As long as he keeps doing that, the media don't matter.
So instead of going through the press which will question their lies, they're going to lie directly to the public through other means. That sounds pretty accurate.
There's definitely no precedent for that being a bad thing.
Seems like the biggest problem with Trump is that everyone is OVERestimated him - including himself. That's the problem, Actually, that's not true, or at best only partially - the problem comes when everyone wakes up to the fact.
ninfanListen to the last minute of the Gorka interview - he actually tells you exactly what is going on!
You know what i got from that 'interview'? (and i use the word loosely because it was really just a pointless avoid answering the question type affair) What i got was the fact that after just 2 mins of watching that Gorka chap talk, i wouldn't trust him as far as i could throw him. Who knows if what he said is true or false, but you know what, i don't even care. He came across as a spiteful, aggressive, Joseph_Goebbels type puppet.
And there's the rub, the nub of the situation. Trumps selfish "me first" attitude may have won him the election, but when it comes to actually doing something, you need friends, not enemies. Every single one of Trumps team come across as horrible people, people who've long since cast aside any moral decency in the name of power and furthering their own selfish aims.
As far as i am concerned, they can all go jump in a lake! (hopefully full of hungry crocodiles who don't GAS about that 'fake news' or 'we're not racists' bull)
So instead of going through the press which will question their lies, they're going to lie directly to the public through other means. That sounds pretty accurate.
If the press had anything approaching a shred of credibility anymore that would be a fair point, but the thing is that they have screwed their own pooch, their complete lack of impartiality in the runup to the election, the election night forecasts with a 99% chance of Clinton winning. It was all utter garbage. How on earth do they expect to be believed in anything ever again?
Get this, the Trump administration is viewed as [b]more[/B] trustworthy than the media - how utterly f***ed up is that 🙂
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/318514-trump-admin-seen-as-more-truthful-than-news-media-poll
The Daily Mail, Breitbart, and its ilk have not a shred of credibility.
The people who staff the NYT, the Washington Post, the New Yorker and others are highly intelligent, responsible professionals who work exceptionally hard and have fact-checking processes they follow. It saddens me to see honest people denigrated by shameless charlatans.
The poll was conducted Feb. 5-6 with a sample of 617 registered voters and a margin of error of 3.9 percentage points.
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What's the truth behind this?
Anyone have more info? I'm struggling to believe that this is actually happening, and hoping there's more to it.
It can't be right can it?
I won't click that link Ninfan. I don't support Nazi propaganda.
I think the damage trump does to the environment alone will be a legacy that Americans are going to regret bigly. His idiot policies and political damage to the country can be fixed with time but bending over backwards for oil and coal beacuse they have money is unforgivable. His actions in the past are questionable, his actions in the present are disgusting but his effect on the future may be irreversible.
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Ah, future doom predictions, fantastic
Again, Haha, very funny eh.
No not if it's you or your family who are forced to drink and wash in polluted rivers, streams and oceans so that some rich bloke can get a bit richer:
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That ^^ is reality, not some stupid cartoon drawn by someone rich who lives in a nice house
Yes, because Donald Trump [b]literally[/b] said it was OK to be a rapist didn't he?
You know what else? I heard that if you say his name three times in front of a mirror he will appear, and that if you play the Macarena backwards it says his name!
That ^^ is reality, not some stupid cartoon drawn by someone rich who lives in a nice house
You may have noticed that those photos of pollution is actually already taking place, in the counties where Trump wants to bring American factories [b]back[/b] from. [b]Not[/b] doing that is endorsing that pollution continuing, just because it's in another country.
Over 4 million women marched world wide having considered that to be the case, in one of the largest peace time rallies ever held.
But why would degenerate selfish and immoral people like Trump and his supporters care......
ninfan -You may have noticed that those photos of pollution is actually already taking place, in the counties where Trump wants to bring American factories back from...
It's OK to pollute your own country then is it?
Over 4 million women marched world wide having considered that to be the case, in one of the largest peace time rallies ever held.
You appear to make the assumption that those four million women are rational, sensible people 😉
It's OK to pollute your own country then is it?
I'm beginning to think that you may well have joined them on their march...
Answer the question: [b]Do you consider it OK to pollute your own country.[/b]
The answer can be either
"YES"
or
"NO"
As long as he keeps doing that, the media don't matter.
haha you wish.
He's already started losing Fox, A Republican President! while some of his more tinfoil hatted supporters might not watch mainstream media, you can bet the vast vast vast majority of the US population is doing exactly that. Mom and Pop america aren't ever going to look at Breitbart or Indfowars, they're going to watch Wake Up America and CNN and Fox, and guess what, they're all saying the same thing, Trump is a loon.
someone close to him, better tell Trump he's not wearing any clothes...
TRump won the election by cutting the media out of the loop and speaking directly to the electorate, they have learned that lesson and made it direct policy
He is still a shit talkie liar though. He can't speak without contradiction OK anything as his twitter finger is so hot.
@maxtorque, you answer mine first, after I asked before you did:
[i]"Yes, because Donald Trump [b]literally[/b] said it was OK to be a rapist didn't he?"[/i]
The answer can be either
"YES"
or
"NO"
and in reality ninfan are you a trump die hard or a pathetic troll?
The pres of the US is a man who cannot take criticism, will never admit defeat, has contempt for the US constitution, has no respect for the law, has no real policy on anything. When challenged instead of being able to defend or debate he hates on those asking legitimate questions.
At this point I will assume I am being dismissed as a bleeding heart liberal. I put myself as business center right and socially left (ie left and right are bollox in modern political discussion)
If you want to be liberal and no regulation then gay marrige and who pisses where is not an issue.
If you want to be progressive on tax to make US manufacturing work then paying for peoples health care regardless of your pro life religious BS makes sense.
I assume this will result in the ban hammer bur ninfan of all the pathetic trolls you are the worst, you have no logic to rely on, you just disagree for sport. At least chewkw does it with no random meaning and poor jamby just hates islam, You seem to be doing it as some kind of non league sport trying to play premier league.
There is a flip side to that, he's probably the most watched/ridiculed president in history. So we are all guilty for giving him this platform.mikewsmith - Member
and in reality ninfan are you a trump die hard or a pathetic troll?
The pres of the US is a man who cannot take criticism, will never admit defeat, has contempt for the US constitution, has no respect for the law, has no real policy on anything. When challenged instead of being able to defend or debate he hates on those asking legitimate questions.
We really should stop playing the game.
Some people actually say (and believe) he's an other hitler with a straight face! 😆
Maybe but claiming that we cannot complain about Trump as he was elected while complaining about Obama is rank hypocrisy which needs calling out.
Also part of the Trump plan is to normalise lies. This needs to stop.
