rmacattack - Member
The mans not wrong though is he. Who on here would visit a shithole?
Have to agree that some parts of the world are sh1tholes.
So Trump didn’t lie...
A child of 5 could read what i wrote and understand where i was being literal, and where i was being jocular.
I would imagine Donald might say much the same to those who react with open mouthed horror to many of the things he posts on Twitter
(...and we sit back and watch the cognitive dissonance bomb explode in Maxtorque and Pondo’s brains...)
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The president of the untied states shouldn’t be ‘joking’ about serious issues on twitter, no?
‘I know it looked like I was goading him into launching a nuke, I was just kidding, he should have know that’
The president of the untied states shouldn’t be ‘joking’ about serious issues on twitter, no?
‘I know it looked like I was goading him into launching a nuke, I was just kidding, he should have know that’
Let me guess, It’s ‘unpresidential’?
At least his health check was fine, although the quote from the doctor was phrased like Trump wrote it, contained very unusual phrasing from a doctor and he misspelt his name. Seems to be some doubts over whether the doctor actually wrote it, Obama had a full disclosure of his health check, presumably Trump has nothing to hide and will do the same? Or it won't be released with all manner of excuses.
(...and we sit back and watch the cognitive dissonance bomb explode in Maxtorque and Pondo’s brains...)
You'll have to start using smileys or something, I can't tell when you're joking.
Good job you're not POTUS, hey!
ninfan(...and we sit back and watch the cognitive dissonance bomb explode in Maxtorque and Pondo’s brains...)
You might be a moron Nin (actually you're not, you are much worse than that, you are a troll. ie someone who says what they say just to cause a reaction) but the rest of us aren't. If you are too synapse limited to be able to understand that people in a position of power need to be careful what they say, despite what they might think, that's your own stupid fault.
If you see a fat person walking down the street, do you run up to them shouting "FATTY FATTY"? You might, if you were a self obsessed, arrogant, and stupid, or if you were 5 years old (when you are young enough to be (slightly) excused from what we would consider polite actions or basic human decency, although even at 5, you'd still know what you were shouting was morally wrong). Common decency prevents us from saying hurtful, racist, bigoted or unnecessarily inflammatory things. It doesn't matter if those things are true, false, based on fact or fiction, opinion or experience.
That basic fact should not need explaining to the President of the most powerful nation in the world.
The fact the UN has had to speak out against Trump tells us a lot.
Considering he hates black people and gays, I have to say I'm pretty surprised that Trump ****ed Stormzy.
but the rest of us aren't. If you are too synapse limited to be able to understand
Says the man who thinks the President of the United States can’t read 😆
Common decency prevents us from saying [b]hurtful[/b], racist, bigoted or [b]unnecessarily inflammatory[/b] things.[b] It doesn't matter if those things are true,[/b] false, based on fact or fiction, opinion or experience.
Says the man who 23 hours ago said:
maxtorque - Member
ninfan
...I'm not sure there is an agreed, recognised consensus on exactly what criteria would be used to judge a country as a "sh**hole" but i'd suggest that by all normal references you, like Trump himself, definitely ARE ar*eholes....
Hoist on your own petard my dear, hoist on your own petard 🙂
Isn't that what Trump called the lady on The Apprentice who was deaf? Oh no he called her a retard, isn't President Bawbag classy?
Apologies for using such a horrible term.
Nin, can i just say i hope you're actually a nicer man in real life than you come across on here.
how could he not be ?
i hope you're actually a nicer man in real life than you come across on here.
Well, I’m not the one going round calling people I’ve never met ar*eholes...
Do you think your posts on here invite amicability?
Remembering his post relating to sexual assualt and consent that was deleted a while back I have no idea why anyone still engages with him.
Remembering his post relating to sexual assualt and consent that was deleted a while back I have no idea why anyone still engages with him.
I presume that it’s because people like Pondo can’t tell whether or not I’m joking without smiley faces
nin. The reason why people who've never met you think you're an a*hole, is because on here, you behave like one.
Simples.
ninfan - MemberI presume that it’s because people like Pondo can’t tell whether or not I’m joking without smiley faces
Aye, there's nothing funnier than sexual assault after all
I presume that it’s because people like Pondo can’t tell whether or not I’m joking without smiley faces
One presumes that's not a joke as there's no smiley.
Aye, there's nothing funnier than sexual assault after all
Only if you’re a leftie it seems:
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I rest my case.
I'm not sure ninfan is, in real life, anything like he is on here
I don't agree with the view point of a number of posters on here much of the time, but at least they are genuine.
I can't help but think ninfan is nothing but a troll, but lacks the wit and imagination of the likes of dtf
Woppit, yeah, but you’ve forgotten... the morally superior tell us that:
[i]Common decency prevents us from saying hurtful, racist, bigoted or unnecessarily inflammatory things. It doesn't matter if those things are true, false, based on fact or fiction, opinion or experience.[/i]
As I’ve pointed out before, if Chewy, Jamba or I went about calling people ars@holes (etc.) on here then the mods would come down on us like a ton of bricks
Says the man who thinks the President of the United States can’t read
Like many he fails to display a basic level of comprehension, an inability to get the facts from the documents presented to him or stuff explained to him. The conclusion is either he can't or just won't accept that anyone knows better than him and carry on shouting.
He demonstrates on a weekly basis that he can't remember what he has previously said and gets caught in another lie, looks like the main reason he is unwilling to sit in a room with a trained investigator.
ninfan - Member
Woppit, yeah, blah blah blah...
On here, you actually ARE, self-evidently, an a*hole, which is why people who call you that don't get banned.
They're just pointing out the obvious.
He does seem to be strangely Teflon ATM thou can’t believe he’s managed a year in office.
I think he does speak for a decent portion of the population. He’s going to serve the full term imho and he could win again.
But with historically record breaking low approval ratings and high disapproval ratings are you sure this is true?
Whats your basis for the conclusion?
The Democrats first need someone appealing, credible and capable (though the last two didn’t really feature during the last election) to run against him, and I’ve yet to see anything.
As much as I hate the man, the one thing we must remember is that at every stage it was predicted he would tumble on the way to the White House he didn't.
By that I mean "the world" needs to ready itself for a possible second term.
Good knows I hope not but who knows?
As to his s***hole comment, if you write of countries and a while continent under one sweeping derogatory term? ?
Well, at best it shows a lack of comprehension and by the morality of only a year or so ago there would be no debate about if it is racist or not...
Of course it is racist.
I think he does speak for a decent portion of the population
He speaks for a portion - but not the decent portion.
I think he does speak for a decent portion of the population. He’s going to serve the full term imho and he could win again.
Given I can't see how he will possibly attract anyone who didn't vote for him last time round, and hes even turning off those who did, I'd think he has absolutely zero chance of a second term. Unless of course he changes his behaviour drastically over the next 3 years
The only reason he won last time (and he didn't even get the most votes remember) is that he ran against the most unpopular democrat candidate in recent memory. One has to assume they wont make the same mistake next time round.
He’s got 3 years to deliver on his promises, he’s already delivered a sweeping tax reform, an increase in military budget and is riding the wave of the previous administrations economic planning success - all he needs to do is deliver the wall (even without Mexico paying for it) and he’ll be hard to beat, regardless of people’s hatred for the man.
Unfortunately the sweeping tax cuts could well send them much further into the red, he needs congress to approve the wall funds (they won't) and he needs to get through mid terms with a majority. Passing one bit of serious legislation in a year with control of both houses is terrible. He will be stuffed with losing one of them.
On a positive note when he visits the UK this year, which I reckon is very likely, I have come up with my banner I think.
TRUMP
NO GENIUS
JUST A PENIS
I'm sue the stw guys will come up with Beyer though... 🙂
CBA reading all through this thread but I'm tired of the constant coverage on all the media platforms about everything he says and does,not just in the US but here too.The guy is a total d*ck but he won a fair, democratic election so get over it.Who started or perpetuated the wars in Iraq,Afghanistan,Vietnam,Korea? Who invaded Cuba,Panama or waged undercover wars in central and South America or killed thousands in Afghanistan and ****stan with drones and special forces or f8cked up in Iran or used American financial might to manipulate countries into acquiesence and god knows how much other sh8t stuff.Every US president has been complicit for decades.Do people really think that Trump is the only problem?
[quote=ninfan ]I presume that it’s because people like Pondo can’t tell whether or not I’m joking without smiley faces
The Poe's law is strong in your posts.
[quote=maxtorque ]If you see a fat person walking down the street, do you run up to them shouting "FATTY FATTY"?
ninny earlier:
nick1962 - Member
CBA reading all through this thread but I'm tired of the constant coverage
Probably not a good thread to dip into in hindsight? 😉
CBA reading all through this thread but I'm tired of the constant coverage on all the media platforms about everything he says and does,not just in the US but here too
TBH he’s the car crash President people just can’t believe how he behaves so your likely to get the constant coverage.
He’s also the most powerful man in the world and he’s tweeting about his nukes and antagonising N.K. It’s not talk he can actually launch on a whim this is sorta worryingly news worthy.
Anyway if wasn’t him being covered you’d just be getting the ‘strictly’ gossip instead 🙂
Given I can't see how he will possibly attract anyone who didn't vote for him last time round, and hes even turning off those who did, I'd think he has absolutely zero chance of a second term
Agree. Along with the fact he has another few years to say and do more ridiculous things and turning off more of his supporters.
CBA reading all through this thread but I'm tired of the constant coverage
All thats required is for good men to do nothing. So its a good strategy isn't it.
He’s got 3 years to deliver on his promises
Less than that. The mid terms could upset things. He might not get anything through after that.
He might not get anything through after that.
That one policy as his legacy, well apart from seeing his kids in prison or trying to throw him under the bus.
Interesting analysis of the link between what Fox News has just streamed on Telly and Trumps tweeting:
[url= http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/05/trump-media-feedback-loop-216248 ]I’ve Studied the Trump-Fox Feedback Loop for Months. It’s Crazier Than You Think By MATTHEW GERTZ[/url]
Given he has a short attention span, is hugely reactive, and unable to seemingly have any empathy at all, it does make some sense!
It's be like the Prime Minister setting policies from Loose Women. Except Fox isn't that high brow.
maxtorque - Member
Interesting analysis of the link between what Fox News has just streamed on Telly and Trumps tweeting:I’ve Studied the Trump-Fox Feedback Loop for Months. It’s Crazier Than You Think By MATTHEW GERTZ
Given he has a short attention span, is hugely reactive, and unable to seemingly have any empathy at all, it does make some sense!
Worryingly good reading and spot on from what we know of Trump.
Just how did America get here?
maxtorque - Member
Interesting analysis of the link between what Fox News has just streamed on Telly and Trumps tweeting:I’ve Studied the Trump-Fox Feedback Loop for Months. It’s Crazier Than You Think By MATTHEW GERTZ
Given he has a short attention span, is hugely reactive, and unable to seemingly have any empathy at all, it does make some sense!
Wow.
If that checks out to be true* it’s simply jaw dropping.
That is surely reckless, incompetent and shows a flagrant disrespect for his position and the consequences of his actions .
Forget Russia collusion etc, how could this not be grounds for impeachment?
* note the IF statement.
He is such a perfect model for what a human being should NOT strive to be.
Saw this on a comments page following a Trump article on BoingBoing; thought it summed him up succinctly.
The article was Trump talking about what a great athlete he was, someone else posted this:
See how humble he is? He is, out of everyone in the world, the best at everything, and no one knows it! He really is the most humble person ever - all that being the case, he still manages to refrain from constantly telling everyone how much better he is at everything that’s going on than they are and/or just doing their jobs for them. Such restraint! Such humility!
Couldn’t have put it better myself.
America and Trump is like watching a multi-vehicle pile-up in super slo-mo; endlessly and horrifyingly fascinating to watch, unable to tear your eyes away from the spectacle.
akira - MemberIt's be like the Prime Minister setting policies from Loose Women.
She's clearly deeply inspired by Yes Prime Minister
Somebody is having some fun with a projector, thin skinned Don is going to be tweeting soon 🙂
Mike, you beat me to it.
That's a real arf arf.
Couldn’t have put it better myself
What I find amazing is that none of his claims (high IQ, athletic prowess, best vocabulary, humbleness, exam results) have ever been called on or verified with actual facts. He just makes an assertion, and that’s that.
At least others put a figure on their greatness...
[url= http://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/kim-jong-un-saves-north-korean-innings-with-top-score-of-807/ ]Good at cricket, the best, one of the greatest of all time[/url]
You know, like how Obama’s was called on his being born in America, him providing proof and people (generally) accepting this?
"This person on the west side that killed eight people and badly, you heard me say yesterday, badly, badly wounded about 12. I mean people losing arms and legs—nobody even talks about that. But they say killed eight and that’s it. I mean you have people—ones walking around without—missing two legs."
That projected message onto the Trump building is a thing of utter beauty! 😀
"I am not a racist. I'm the least racist person you have ever interviewed."
That's nice to know. I'm reassured.
Yep, he's cleared up that racism issue.
Just – and so – so I was successful, successful, successful. I was always the best athlete, people don’t know that.
As the source of all American imports of Vibranium, let's hope the African kingdom of Wakanda, believes him
https://twitter.com/SaraJBenincasa/status/952208167525498880
#wakandagate
^^ Had to Google that! 😀
kerley - Member
Yep, he's cleared up that racism issue.
Yeah, phew eh?
Sorry to correct you kimbers,but I think you will find it was Unobtanium that Wakanda was exporting. 🙂
Don't forget about their covfefe plantations.
akira - Member
Don't forget about their covfefe plantations.
Oh yes, bigly!
As the source of all American imports of Vibranium, let's hope the African kingdom of Wakanda, believes himhttps://twitter.com/SaraJBenincasa/status/952208167525498880
#wakandagate
If they were to send a press release to Fox and Friends about it, DJT will be up to speed on the issue immediately.
Moral: don't call countries that have potentially incriminating evidence under wraps shitholes...
[i]#Haiti held emergency high court session that resulted in an agreement to unseal and release information within ex-dictator Jean-Claude 'Baby Doc' Duvalier's indictments relating to #MoneyLaundering via Trump Tower condo.[/i]
[url= https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/haitian-government-claims-ousted-dictator-baby-doc-duvalier-laundered-stolen-money-through-trump-tower/#.WlkxzU2Nkbs.twitter ]https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/haitian-government-claims-ousted-dictator-baby-doc-duvalier-laundered-stolen-money-through-trump-tower/#.WlkxzU2Nkbs.twitter[/url]
Anyone just watched panorama?
[terrified face]
Yep, I actually thought it was a pretty poor panaroma though, the guy who imports hoverboards reminded me of the human fat sacks on hoverchairs in the film Wall-E and I felt for the miner who voted for trump as you could see the distress in her face, as for the other two?...... ****-em!.
martinhutch - MemberJust – and so – so I was successful, successful, successful. I was always the best athlete, people don’t know that.
Funny isn't it, you'd have thought the heel spurs would have held him back
If 20% of Trump voter's no longer approve of him, then that's enough to swing it back, depending on which states they're in.
With the lowest approval ratings ever it's the Dems to loose really.
Amazing how his steady stream of incompetence & errors don't alienate his base!
It'll be the midterms later in the year b4 will have a better idea, Dems have worst starting point in 100 yrs at this stage so they've got a hill to climb, even with a few surprising recent results
It's just occurred to me, and I know it seems perverse, but there's just the tiniest suspicion beginning to think about crossing my mind that we'll miss him when he's gone.
Bit like an old used punchbag dumped in a rubbish skip outside Kronk's...
kimbersAmazing how his steady stream of incompetence & errors don't alienate his base!
I'm not sure it's that amazing, and that Panorama prog showed why! Basically, the people who'd still vote for him are stupid enough to believe he's "doing it for the people" rather than himself. They are stupid enough to believe that Trump would "fight their cause" whereas if there was nothing in it for him, it's pretty dam obvious he'd drop them at the first opportunity, and if their cause no longer fitted with his current belief (which change on a daily basis) worse still, he'd actively, and aggressively, do all he could to fight against them!
Worrying study about how ‘fake news’ is now seen as anything that Trump or anyone just doesn’t approve of or isn’t positive:
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/16/americans-fake-news-study-339184
Yeah that does seem to be what it has been watered down to (by many parties.. not just Trump.. but mainly him).
It's no longer a statement on whether reports are factual or not.
Just whether they are agreeable or not.
On the topic of actual fake news, I saw this amusing video of Alt/Far Right poster boy Milo Yiannopoulos quoting [url= http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/nhs-forced-to-offer-cervical-smear-test-to-men-after-landmark-legal-case/ ]an article from Southend News Network[/url] as genuine fact that he researched and confirmed himself and "promises is real" 🙄
Would be hilarious if not for the fact that his fans will completely believe it.
Far Right poster boy Milo
You mean the gay jew married to a black guy? Yeah, the far right love him! 😆
Yeah, the far right love him!
They sure do because they get to regularly wheel him out as their token [i]"we can't be far-right, some of our best friends are gay jews"[/i].
He also says he is opposed to gay rights and published an article called [url= http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/17/gay-rights-have-made-us-dumber-its-time-to-get-back-in-the-closet/ ]"It's Time To Get Back In The Closet"[/url].
Or are you seriously trying to say that the former senior editor for Breitbart is actually a leftie? 😆
This guy?
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Great long form piece about him here if you care to read it:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/heres-how-breitbart-and-milo-smuggled-white-nationalism
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/16/politics/robert-mueller-steve-bannon/index.html
Nothing to see here
Special counsel Robert Mueller subpoenaed former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon last week, The New York Times reported Tuesday.Bannon was on Capitol Hill testifying before the House Intelligence Committee when the news broke that Mueller had issued the subpoena for the now-estranged associate of President Donald Trump to testify before a grand jury.
Several White House staffers have come forward voluntarily for interviews with the special counsel team. The New York Times, citing a person with direct knowledge, said the grand jury subpoena for Bannon "could be a negotiating tactic" and that Mueller would likely allow Bannon to speak with investigators instead of going before the grand jury.
Such a grand jury in fact the grandest of all juries
People are looking at Trump's presidency through UK/european eyes...there is also STILL an arrogance about his detractors.
You'd think after he won last time people would take him seriously....to underestimate him risks seeing him get a second term.
The US stock market is at an all-time high, forecasts for 2018 are good (as laid out by the Wall Street Journal below)....
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/economists-credit-trump-as-tailwind-for-u-s-growth-hiring-and-stocks-1515682893
...and this is not to be dismissed, the US is far more capitalist than the UK, the average American cares more about the economy than whether a politician says the right things...the UK has moved towards identity politics, political correctness and seems preoccupied with gender, race, religion etc... this is all very nice as peripheral issues but the primary role of a leader is to make sure citizens feel safe and the country prospers.
Whether you agree with his stance on immigration or not it resonates with a large number of voters who equate immigration with crime etc... the shithole countries comment was crass but people don't flee brilliant countries....they leave shitholes to make a better life elsewhere, I think most people can put the faux outrage to side and see the reality behind this....would the great and good of STW go and live in Syria?...i can't see many takers, why?...because it's a dump.
Trump cuts through the BS and a large number of voters like that... i said a few pages back that some in here would do well to browse a few American forums, there are obviously Americans who don't like Trump but on the forums I use there is about a 50/50 split...this thread (and the UK in general) doesn't matter, it's an overwhelming echo chamber against Trump.
The pompous s****ing that pervades through this thread infected the Democrat party in the last election...it will happen again unless they can find someone more palatable than Hillary and then that person has to start getting back to basics...economy, immigration etc...the average US voter doesn't care about misgendering, reporting tweets or anything else we've become obsessed with in Europe.
Brexit and Trump weren't accidents...there is discontent among the wider public...politicians ignore it at their peril.
seems preoccupied with gender, race, religion etc
Really? Because most of the ridiculous elements of identity politics come out of the right and left of the United States.
I think you're just making that up to apologise for Trump.
Trumps is so popular it showing in his ratings........ Oh hang on!,!
Brexit and Trump weren't accidents...there is discontent among the wider public...politicians ignore it at their peril.
Absolutely but what will happen to all that discontent when Trump/Brexit doesn't deliver on their promises?
That's a backlash that will be be very dangerous to ignore.
There's a lot of guns in America.
Trumps still alive.
What gives?