in which he gets to eviscerate the biased media
I must have been watching a different press conference?
Donald Trump has just created the biggest, can't miss, TV event of the week, i
You mean Saturday Nigh Live??
even his biggest fans will be deflated by his performance yesterday
the more unstable he looks on TV, the more frustrated he becomes, the more he blames the media...... its a viscous circle
but it cant go on indefinitely at some point he is going to reach a critical mass and go nova
It's very covenient the media coverage of Trump - it's taking the spotlight away from the fiasco that is Brexit and giving May some breathing space.
Donald Trump has just created the biggest, can't miss, TV event of the week
Yes he has, but I don't see what he achieves by getting people like me to tune in to watch him make a fool of himself?
Yes he has, but I don't see what he achieves by getting people like me to tune in to watch him make a fool of himself?
he invaded Iran when you weren't looking 😉
Yes he has, but I don't see what he achieves by getting people like me to tune in to watch him make a fool of himself?
i am sure that people like you not voting for him next time round will make a real difference to him, he must be gutted about it.
i am sure that people like you not voting for him next time round will make a real difference to him, he must be gutted about it.
but his NPD means he probably is gutted about being a global laughing stock....
he must be gutted about it.
he's too stupid to realise the damage he's doing...How long before the Republican party realise that d'you think?
about minus 15 ish hours i would have thought - they must be bricking it about how they can work with him and how much damage he can do to them.
he might but only once he has had a brief to tell him where it is 😉he invaded Iran when you weren't looking
[i]he's too stupid to realise the damage he's doing[/i]
You think? He managed to get elected to one of the most powerful positions in the world. You might disagree with him but I think the 'stupid' comments people make about him and his voters demonstrate people haven't a grasp of what's going on in the world and how others live.
Also, calling a right wing supporter stupid or thick is displaying the very same intolerance you are challenging in the right wing supporter. Pot, kettle , black and all that.
however research also shows the less well educated you are[ thick] the more likely you are to be right wing in general and it also showed that the least well educated were the most likely to vote for him
I am not sure its intolerant to point out someone is thick, it may be unkind but it is not untrue.
How can you watch trump explain Uranium and not conclude he is thick ?
'stupid' comments people make about him and his voters demonstrate people haven't a grasp of what's going on in the world.
Dont be so intolerant of others with different views with you as haven't a grasp is just polite middle class speak for thick.
i am sure that people like you not voting for him next time round will make a real difference to him, he must be gutted about it.
Of course - but it was not me that made a big deal of him getting people to watch him, it was you. So I ask again, what is the value of getting people to watch if you just make a fool of yourself in front of them?
It doesn't, but you still don't grasp that the press conference isn't there to answer long, drawn out and tedious questions about the rise in antisemetic incidents, that in reality are a policing issue - it's the Donald Trump show, in which he gets to bash the media for calling him antisemitic when nobody really thinks he is.
[i] the less well educated you are[ thick] the more likely you are to be right wing in general a[/i]
How is this reflected in our highly educated political establishment? We have a right leaning political establishment.
[quote=edenvalleyboy ] the less well educated you are[ thick] the more likely you are to be right wing in general a
How is this reflected in our highly educated political establishment? We have a right leaning political establishment.
Just because they went to a posh school doesn't mean they're actually educated...
people haven't a grasp of what's going on in the world and how others live.
THAT's what got him elected in the first place...........
How can you watch trump explain Uranium and not conclude he is thick ?
Thicko!
He managed to get elected to one of the most powerful positions in the world
so did G Dubbya, and let's be honest here, He wasn't the brightest candle either. Getting elected in the US isn't (sadly) an IQ test.
but you still don't grasp that the press conference isn't there to answer long, drawn out and tedious questions about the rise in antisemetic incidents
What you don't grasp is that increasingly it's becoming obvious to the media that in order to play Trump at his own game (de-stabilisation) all they have to do is exatly that, ask him questions more complex than "Spell your name" and Trump will do their work for them.
you may have confused conservative with a small c and right wing there.
either way the research is consistent that the less well educated are more likely to be right wing
Yes you can cherry pick areas where we have bright right wingers - no one has claimed they dont exist- but the fact remains thicker folk are more likely to be right wing. Unless you wish to try and negate that - and you will only have alternative facts to do it- then this debate is a bit pointless.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/us-election-how-age-race-and-education-are-deciding-factors-in-t/
He managed to get elected to one of the most powerful positions in the world
Gerald Ford
G Dub
Nixon
Ronnie Reagan
It doesn't, but you still don't grasp that the press conference isn't there to answer long, drawn out and tedious questions about the rise in antisemetic incidents, that in reality are a policing issue - it's the Donald Trump show, in which he gets to bash the media for calling him antisemitic when nobody really thinks he is.
What I grasp perfectly well (thank you) is that for now Trump acting the fool is entertaining for the devotees and detractors alike, if for different reasons, but that when it continues, and is accompanied by ongoing failure to deliver on his promises, it will become more and more self-destructive, and the spotlight he has attracted will begin to get a bit hot.
same press conference
the man is a terrible leader. Blame everyone else......
ninfan - Memberyou still don't grasp
We grasp it perfectly well, it's not complicated- he doesn't want to run the country, he wants to run a game show. And he's very good at what he's doing, it's just that it's not the job.
@junkyard..Will not disagree with you but you have to remember, due to neo-liberalism ideology there are just as many educated folk voting to the right because they are in it for themselves.
Also a person who is comfortable financially has more power to vote ethically, moralistically and empathetically. Poor folk have to vote on what they believe will bring them more money and that's how the right wins each time. Promises a better life financially. The thick part is directly linked to thwir opportunity to earn money I.e. less educated have less opportunity to earn money.
Interesting to see noted [url= https://twitter.com/colinjones/status/832344610068393986 ]liberal cry-baby Shep Smith whining about the president[/url] on that well-known hive of lefty-agenda-pushing pinko commies, Fox News.
I'm not holding up Fox as a paragon of journalistic virtue here by the way. It's just worth noting that Trump has managed to get himself called a liar, repeatedly, by a Fox News anchor, someone who should still be fully on his side at this stage, and he's not even a month into his term. It's one thing when the Grauniad screams and shouts, it's rather another when the "Fair and Balanced" guys start sharpening their knives.
What I grasp perfectly well (thank you) is that for now Trump acting the fool is entertaining for the devotees and detractors alike, if for different reasons, but that when it continues, and is accompanied by ongoing failure to deliver on his promises, it will become more and more self-destructive, and the spotlight he has attracted will begin to get a bit hot.
Indeed. And I suspect nobody really cares to try and shift opinion among the devoted. It's those that'll step away from supporting GOP that count, and I mean GOP not Trump. He'll spend his time flailing around finding obstructions (pesky Constitution) at every possible turn, but GOP will need to think about how this impacts their future.
I'm actually inclined to see if there's decent odds on Trump not standing for a second term(or completing the first) due to either health issues or "wanting his life back".
@ eden all reasonable points but i think the main one is that an emotive argument
It used to be better, its immigrants fault I will make us great again we will all have jobs and they will pay
Its a great simplistic message that is also clearly BS* you not only need to be poor to swallow that you need to be less bright
* its very hard for us on the left to counter that as we just want to laugh at it for its inherent stupidity and that wnt win hearts minds or votes
As an aside, did anyone catch the interview with the guys from Anthrax on 6 Music on Tuesday?
They were despairing of Their country voting for Trump. Mark Radcliffe pointed out that we've our own issues over here.
Their answer?
"Well when you guys elect Piers Morgan as Prime Minister, I think you'll have a direct comparison"
😆
I don't like that "when you guys elect Piers Morgan", Joey Belladonna gets uncannily accurate premonitions of the future, courtesy of the time chicken in his head.
Yes you can cherry pick areas where we have bright right wingers - no one has claimed they dont exist- but the fact remains thicker folk are more likely to be right wing
half the population has less than average intelligence, do their votes count for less?
If the smart people are left wing, why can't they convince the thick people to vote for them?
the less well educated you are[ thick] the more likely you are to be right wing in general
as most teachers are in receipt of higher education and therefore "not thick" and also therefore "left wing", why do so many children fail in the education system and become "uneducated" and therefore "thick" and therefore "right wing"? Why do "not thick" people create their own political adversaries?
How is this reflected in our highly educated political establishment? We have a right leaning political establishment.
Becaude the upper and political classes have 1000 years of history and experience in how to manipulate oiks - right wing politics is and has always been the best way to make them compliant.
Do you think for a second that people like Boris Johnson believe what they say? Theresa May might but she's a ****ing state school kid.
[quote=convert ]But that was not the question; the question was 'tell me how this is all great.'?
You're expecting mini-Trump to answer the question? 😆
[quote=big_n_daft ]as most teachers are in receipt of higher education and therefore "not thick" and also therefore "left wing", why do so many children fail in the education system and become "uneducated" and therefore "thick" and therefore "right wing"? Why do "not thick" people create their own political adversaries?
Maybe there are other things influencing children's education other than how good their teachers are - such as other people who are also right wing...
Maybe there are other things influencing children's education other than how good their teachers are - such as other people who are also right wing...
who have the same amount of time with the child in a teaching environment? like who?
why can't the "not thick" teaching community counter this existential threat from "thick" right wing people?
Uhhh the parents? Since when did children and parents listen to teachers anyway?
aracer - MemberYou're expecting mini-Trump to answer the question?
Yep, I got exactly the response I was prompting for tbh.
Uhhh the parents? Since when did children and parents listen to teachers anyway?
the parents were educated by "not thick" highly educated teachers, why did they turn them into "thick" right wingers with the skills to counter the future influence of "not thick" highly educated teachers of their children?
How far back with the parents /teacher thing d'you wanna go big and daft?
as most teachers are in receipt of higher education and therefore "not thick" and also therefore "left wing", why do so many children fail in the education system and become "uneducated" and therefore "thick" and therefore "right wing"? Why do "not thick" people create their own political adversaries?
I believe the relevant phrase is 'you can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter' . Teachers are at best the purveyors of the finest glitter - society and genetics does the rest.
Big and Daft, back in them old days, a lot of teachers were backwards racists with no qualifications as well.
Things are only going to get worse when the Flynn effect inevitably goes into reverse.
I'm a bit confused by big n dafts argument - is he suggesting that teachers should consider themselves failures unless all pupils leave school with an above average education?
[quote=Northwind ]Yep, I got exactly the response I was prompting for tbh.
Ah - does it count as trolling if you're both doing it?
No, they should consider themselves failure if [b]their[/b] pupils leave school with a below average education
