Well given fox news managed to get Moroccan into the first reports its no surprise
Right so basically #fakenews then?
I'm sure Spicer called Fox on that one and publicly corrected his own mistake?
Trump reportedly preparing papers for his run in 2020. Smart move shows he in the job for the long term.
Why is it a smart move? If he was really smart he would try to calm down the ever growing opposition to him by heavily hinting that he might not aim for a second term.
What btw does "preparing papers" for his re-election in 2020 involve?
I see GatewayPundit has a list and screenshots of the liberal MSM that "failed" to report the shooter shouted "Allahu Akbar", unlike them, Fox and Breitbart.
Because it "apparently doesn’t help the narrative that they are trying to push" 😕
#fakenews much?
hes all about the $$$
I doubt it. I very much doubt that his presidential ambitions ever had anything to do with money. I think Molgrips comment it closer.
By showing his intention to run for 2020 it means (shamelessly cut n' pasted)
It means that 501c3 (non-profit) organizations cannot work or speak negatively about the President, who would of course be “candidate” Trump. If they do, it is considered opposition to a candidate, and grounds for losing the group’s tax exempt status.
This makes nonprofits’ political strategy for the next few years dicey to say the least. If they want to defeat Trump’s policies, they need to figure out how to do it without “campaigning.” No more Planned Parenthood rallies claiming Trump is against women’s healthcare, when their real goal is abortion promotion. Legally, however, nonprofits working for Trump are limited in their “campaign” efforts as well. But remember, President Trump has the bully pulpit.
Sly move eh?, alongside his appointment of Bannon to the national security council I fear what he's done so far is small change compared to what is coming over the next few years
It means that 501c3 (non-profit) organizations cannot work or speak negatively about the President, who would of course be “candidate” Trump. If they do, it is considered opposition to a candidate, and grounds for losing the group’s tax exempt status.
Ah, I didn't realise that this was the case in the land which values free speech so highly.
Statement on Iran. Recently test fired a missle with "Israel must be destroyed" written on the side
Thanks for that jambalaya. I know we shouldn't be surprised but I still find it staggering that a US national security advisor should have both the nerve and hypocrisy to stand before TV cameras and accuse Iran of [i]"destabilising behaviour across the entire Middle East"[/i]
Trump 2020 is all about thr $$, his campaign heavily funneled cash through his businesses for hotels, planes etc. doing this allows him another revenue stream. Cynical ploy and really goes down to the main reason he wanted the job, the bottom line.
Trump couldn't even get 100,000 people to clap him at his inauguration, let alone an army!
@outofbreath even the most pessimistic estimates for the inauguration where around 300,000
Who said they were all there supporting him?
The same man who brought his own cheer leaders to every event he does (first press meeting was filled with (paid?) friends who whoop and holler at everything he said.
If this is a taste of what is to come then when he starts his pro isreal/anti iran policies in ernest then the world will really shake.
"Israel must be wiped out/destroyed" was written in Hebrew on an Iranian missile that was tested back on 9 march 2016, not the missile tested yesterday.
Oh and on the Isreal thing, finally we had a US that was willing to put limits on their agression and illegal actions and now they have a free pass. That and the agression from Trump towards Iran is only going one way. You can't back one side or the other in this case, you have to back and chastise both. Strangly it's what was happening with Iran being rewarded for making prgress and Isreal being penalised for not. as I have said many times before nearly anywhere else and there would have been blue helmets on the borders and a way to keep the Israli military on their side of the border and the paistinians on thiers. Instead we have legalisation of building in occupied teritories which has the sole purpose of making the borders further out and changing the balance in the region again in favour of Isreal.
Not been following this thread as frankly there's enough about the wotsit hitler in the news without willingly reading it here. However, it's amusing to see that May isn't the only foreign leader to be totally bent over by him:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-02/trump-slams-dumb-refugee-deal/8235820
I have to agree with Trump that it's a dumb deal - Australia should be allowing these wretched people in here rather than off-loading them to the other side of the world. However, it is an interesting lens through which you can observe just how clueless Trump actually is. I think it's pretty clear he was almost unaware of the deal prior to the shortened phone call, and Spicer thought the refugees were all from PNG so they wouldn't be affected by the travel ban. Absolutely mind-bogglingly clueless...
and another interesting part is which of the 3 Amigo's decided to leak the details of how the call went? I guess that means anyone is free to share Trump's words now?
In the room during the call were Mr Trump's chief strategist Stephen Bannon, press secretary Sean Spicer and national security adviser Michael Flynn.
and another interesting part is which of the 3 Amigo's decided to leak the details of how the call went? I guess that means anyone is free to share Trump's words now?
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that the leak came from down here...
@outofbreath even the most pessimistic estimates for the inauguration where around 300,000
My bad, I guessed the number, I should have checked. It doesn't affect the point I was making though.
Can't be bothered to check if this has already been posted, but in the interests of fairness a petition to debate Trumps state visit being allowed, rather than banned.
[url= https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844 ]https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844[/url]
So debating something that's already happening, short debate I guess.
'So should Trump have a state visit?'
'He is'
'Oh, so why are we here?'
To think by the time this list was compiled, Trump hadn't even threatened Australia yet....
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So debating something that's already happening, short debate I guess.
The next petition will presumably be "Have I go too much time on my hands"
So countries he's threatened so far, Mexico, Iran, Australia, China and....Must be more than that. I've said it before but it's worth repeating.. Bawbag.
Yeah but that's all just stuff he's doing to distract attention from the bad stuff he's doing.
I must have missed something - is he already here?
Next we shall be cancelling debates on climate change and immigration because they're "already happening"
I don't think you need to specify 'bad' stuff as there's no good stuff interlaced betwixt poorly thought out tantrums/policies.
Aracer, I think a debate about not making a state visit will encompass all the points a debate about making it a state visit would, debates tend to cover both sides by definition so a secondary debate would be pointless.
Have we done this?
Over the past few days as i watch the presidency degenerate into a comedic (albeit frightening) farce i've found myself turning to the only sane voice regarding US politics, it's a damn shame he blew the back of his head off with a gun but perhaps he had a premonition of what was to come........or perhaps he was just a drug addled ornery old bastard but i feel we need a bit of light relief so here's a few select quotes from what i consider to be his greatest work - Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72
Hunter.....I miss you.....you cantankerous old bastard.
[i]“The whole framework of the presidency is getting out of hand. It's come to the point where you almost can't run unless you can cause people to salivate and whip on each other with big sticks. You almost have to be a rock star to get the kind of fever you need to survive in American politics.”
? Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72
“The main problem in any democracy is that crowd-pleasers are generally brainless swine who can go out on a stage & whup their supporters into an orgiastic frenzy—then go back to the office & sell every one of the poor bastards down the tube for a nickel apiece.”
? Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72
“How low do you have to stoop in this country to be President?”
? Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72[/i]
I could quote many more but i shall spend my day off from work drinking whisky, smoking fine weed and seeing solace in his work
wonder what the man behind the throne (Bannon) has planned for foreign affairs?
https://soundcloud.com/breitbart/breitbart-news-daily-lee-edwards-march-10-2016 😯
Have we done this?
To be fair, much as it pains me, anyone, even with some kind of journo accreditation, would be chucked out of a White House press conference if they stand up out of turn and just start haranguing the president.
Can't disagree with the general thrust of his non-question, though.
edit: what he ^ said
[quote=martinhutch ]Have we done this?
To be fair, much as it pains me, anyone, even with some kind of journo accreditation, would be chucked out of a White House press conference if they stand up out of turn and just start haranguing the president.
Can't disagree with the general thrust of his non-question, though.
It's Trump's manner that's the issue.
It's Trump's manner that's the issue.
Precisely.
How much better if he were to apologise to the person whose question was interrupted, then take and answer the question he was posing, and then go back and answer the original one again.
But pulling a face, looking away and doing the childish 'I can't see you so you're not there' thing......
Oh and on the Isreal thing, finally we had a US that was willing to put limits on their agression and illegal actions and now they have a free pass.
Even if the 'illegal' bit were true, what exactly did Obama do in his [u]eight years[/u] in office to rein in Israel, e.g. The massive ground invasion of the Gaza Strip in 2014 or the flotilla raid in 2010?
He even waited until Hillary had lost before suddenly turning pro-Palestine at the UN and giving them $200m - and you can guarantee that wouldn't have happened if she had won.
Oh, and on the charities thing - snopes has already called it:
http://www.snopes.com/trump-filed-reelection-stop-political-speech-nonprofits/
[quote=akira ]I think a debate about not making a state visit will encompass all the points a debate about making it a state visit would
Ah, sorry, was missing the point. But that's apparently exactly what they're doing - they're going to cover both petitions in the same debate (also a point I suspect the author of the petition in favour of a state visit was missing, but then they don't appear to be the smartest cookie).
A reasonable post ninfan - thank you, though I note the following in the snopes article:
He added the caveat: "That’s assuming Trump obeys the law."
Illegal bit? got to be one or two in there
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_assassinations#2010s
So apart from that why is going fully pro Israel and taking on Iran and provoking the rest of the middle east going to do?
I know you are unable to judge anything in the present but give it a go some days
trouble with [url= http://www.snopes.com/queen-sword-trump/ ]snopes.com[/url] is they take the daily mash seriously 😉
Oh, glory be, look at this
The excerpt of that press bloke being thrown out [u]isn't the whole story[/u] - surprise surprise!
AFTER 'having the rules explained to him' Trump invited him back in to ask his questions (@ about 4 minutes in)
I wonder why that wasn't shown in the original video posted up?
I imagine someone in PR had a quiet word, and he was brought back in.
And after they had chucked him out and called him racist names.
Where are you from NinjaFan? Perhaps we should just insult you and insinuate your country of birth somehow makes you a second class citizen rather than have an adult conversation?
[quote=ninfan ]Oh, glory be, look at this
The excerpt of that press bloke being thrown out isn't the whole story - surprise surprise!
AFTER 'having the rules explained to him' Trump invited him back in to ask his questions (@ about 4 minutes in)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w251in94pA
I wonder why that wasn't shown in the original video posted up?
THE ISSUE IS NOT WITH THE GUY ASKING THE QUESTIONS!!!
The issue is with the supposed leader of the free world being a real life Eric Cartman in a press conference.
Can't be bothered to check if this has already been posted, but in the interests of fairness a petition to debate Trumps state visit being allowed, rather than banned.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844
Just going to leave this here:
Trump state visit supporters: the darker the colour the more in favour that area is of Trump having tea with the Queen
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The redder the colour the more in favour that area is / was towards Brexit
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What do the colours mean?
Not what thre poster said they did.
Slick Willy Clinton recieved standing ovations for his 1995 state of the union address speech on immigration - pretty much verbatim as pertaining to Trump's 'Racism' - So are they all Rascist or Just the one's that suit your chosen narrative ?
I don't know noltae. Did Slick Willy Clinton have White Supremacists shouting "Heil Bill" or KKK leaders calling it the "best year ever"?
Dammit! Undone by a ninja edit from rich.
It's not always about what you say or what you do, it's often about how you say it and how you do it. That's what being a politician is about and something Trump clearly doesn't get.
