Far better that we ALL go to watch the parade, but as he comes past, everyone turns their back to his cavalcade and just stands silently, facing away........
A huge crowd, all backs to him should get the point across in a rather difficult to miss manner!
bigblackshedNever argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience
Which, also nicely sums up Trumps entire Presidency too!
Unfortunately, Trumps brand of Playground Politics (TM) brings everything down to the lowest common denominator, and completely ignores what is actually important in favour of petty point winning and trying to be clever (but only demonstrating just how stupid those politics are)
Lets face it, anyone with the IQ exceeding that of a radish can easily work out what Sadiq Kahn meant by his statement, no matter what the EXACT words he used to make that statement. Only an imbecile (or self obsessed narcissist) would worry about the punctuation, the exact order of the words, or if Kahn should have used a slightly different spelling, layout or form of some of the words.
Imagine the following sign:
[b] "DANGER: MAN EATING SHARKS - NO SWIMMING" [/b]
It should be quite, quite clear what that sign is for, and what information it is telling the reader, and why.
However, muppets like Trump, Gorka and most of Trumps self grandiose team of swamp drainers (and our own Chewy as well ;-), will no doubt moan on about how they have never seen a man eating a shark in that pool beyond that sign and hence it's quite safe to swim in it..... In an effort to try to look clever they demonstrate quite clearly that they are stupid.
[quote=maxtorque ]However, muppets like Trump, Gorka and most of Trumps self grandiose team of swamp drainers (and our own Chewy as well ;-), will no doubt moan on about how they have never seen a man eating a shark in that pool beyond that sign and hence it's quite safe to swim in it..... In an effort to try to look clever they demonstrate quite clearly that they are stupid.
If only there was such a pool with a shark in it - you could get them all to line up.
chewkw » wrong choice of words.
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Trump is every international stereotype of a rude, classless, overweight, bozo American distilled to its essence, poured into an orange meat sack, topped with a bad comb-over and given a Twitter account and the (formerly) most important leadership position in the world.
That Chicago Tribune article is just excellent!
Imagine the following sign:"DANGER: MAN EATING SHARKS - NO SWIMMING"
It should be quite, quite clear what that sign is for, and what information it is telling the reader, and why.
I don't have to imagine it.
On the beach at Brean and Burnham-on-Sea are big signs, saying quite clearly and unequivocally:
[b]Warning[/b]
Soft sand and mud - Danger of sinking
Yet around two hundred times a year or so, a hovercraft has to go out and attend to people who don't think the words apply to them, or their cars, and walk out towards the sea a mile away when the tides out, thinking that mud that will trap and drown a five year old girl will allow them to walk or drive on it.
Clearly the collective version of closing your eyes, and sticking your fingers in your ears, going "la la la la la la la la la..."
It would be pathetic , if it didn't risk so many other people who go to help.
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Kiwis giving Rex a warm welcome there 🙂 I'd imagine a frank discussion with any kiwi is not the way most us politicians normally deal.
bah.... they should have dildoed him!
Imagine the effect on his fragile persona if, instead of turning up and doing a lot of shouting, everybody just simply ignored it.
I like you're strategy. Theresa May isn't hiding from the electorate - we're hiding from her. That'll show her! 🙂
So after Kellyanne complains about the MSM's "obsession" with reporting what Trump says on Twitter, Trump [url= https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/872059997429022722 ]posts[/url] this:
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CountZero - like this in Northumbria?
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and yet
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..although I do like this one
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ust to remove doubt (though it is Spicer speaking), GrahamS...
[url= http://wapo.st/2r2UwGo ]In one sentence Tuesday, White House press secretary Sean Spicer just eliminated any doubt you may have about whether the media should pay attention to President Trump's tweets.
“The president is the president of the United States, so they are considered official statements by the president of the United States,” he said in response to a reporter's question.[/url]
turns out that Some of Those That Work Forces Are The Same That Burn Crosses
Yeah vinnyeh, but that's the Washington Post reporting so it must be fake news and the video of Sean Spicer saying those words must also be fake.. or something..
Damn MSM:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/07/james-comey-trump-congress-statement
a dish best serve cold...
Little old but made me laugh:
things....
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what a **** tard
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-40193177 ]how long has he been in the job, what a mess[/url] 🙂
I close my eyes, it's just like listening to Derek Zoolander.
Does his grandson's T-shirt in this Instagram Tweet from Donald Junior say 'Twunt'?
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Loving the Comey testimony so far.
I see the Republican's are using Ninfan's "calling for" tactic:
Trump saying that he [i]"hoped that he would let it go"[/i] is apparently very different to saying that he should let it go.
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These calling for / hoping that statements happen often enough that no-one's in the slightest bit fooled about what is meant by them but we know that the language is being deliberately selected to then not be indictable as just the words.
I'm calling for someone to mention something about ducks quacking at this point.
Has the Brain Fart started tweeting yet?
his lawyers have probably hidden it from him
At least he is finally taking this seriously
whilst their is no doubt other things count other than words the notion that the non verbal bits are more important is silly
Every time i hear someone say i ask them to demonstrate their point via the medium of mime, As most of the communication is left it should be a real easy.
Comey stuff is absolutely fascinating
Trump is doomed judging by the amount of stuff comey keeps saying he can't talk about in an open setting
It seems blindingly obvious Trump leaned on him
The only real issue is whether the republicans want to go down with him
What I do find strange, and he is correct, is that the russian hacking , is not a democrat or republican issue its an integrity of the nation issue
Its strange that RW patriotic folk will turn a blind eye to it
i can only imagine their and trump reaction had hillary won with the least votes and tales of russian collusion
Why are they ignoring this now?
Its as serious an allegation as can be made in a democracy IMHO
whilst their is no doubt other things count other than words the notion that the non verbal bits are more important is silly
Depends, tho, dunnit?
If I repeated your words back to back to you, playground style, it a whiney voice, flapping my hands and pulling a face, would you think you think I was agreeing with you?
Or would the effect be exactly the same as if I said "my names junkyard and mner, mner, mner, mner!" in the same voice with the sam face and flappy hands?
BoardingBob +1
Every time i hear someone say i ask them to demonstrate their point via the medium of mime, As most of the communication is left it should be a real easy.
Go on mime those thoughts to me and post up the video 😉
the simple reality is when folk explain complicated things they dont use the medium of mime
you are free to decide whether that is because words are helpful or not
NB i did not say that tone nor body language were not important I merely questioned whether they were the most important and vastly more so than words in general in communication
Ps happy to see the peer reviewed research that was no doubt conducted via mime
JunkyardWhat I do find strange, and he is correct, is that the russian hacking , is not a democrat or republican issue its an integrity of the nation issue
Its strange that RW patriotic folk will turn a blind eye to it
i can only imagine their and trump reaction had hillary won with the least votes and tales of russian collusion
Why are they ignoring this now?
Because Trump wasn't elected because of his integrity, his skills as a business man or his policies. He was elected as a protest against left wing culture running amok.
against left wing culture running amok.
Doing what now?
So the bit you seem to have missed out is that Comey also confirmed that Trump himself wasn't actually being investigated over ties with Russia, despite all the false claims being made by the lying Leftie media, politicians and hysterical SJW's
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Since it seems everyone around Trump is implicated in the Russian conspiracy, it means either Trump knew nothing about it in which case he's an idiot and he has to go, or he knew about it in which case he has to go.
He also said that that the reason he wouldn't make a statement to that effect was that if it changed in the future, it might cause more problems reversing a statement than if he didn't make the statement at all.
You might decide that, given that rationale, Comey thought there was a reasonable chance of the focus would indeed shift onto Trump.
Edit: and what akira said.
So, your argument now is that
"yeah, it turns out we were wrong, he wasnt being investigated after all, there's no evidence against him, but because you can't prove a negative, there's a remote chance that he was, so we were justified in lying about it"
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I think we're all just enjoying the former head of the FBI calling the orange clagnut a liar who instructed him to obstruct justice
the lying Leftie media
Is that the same lying Leftie media who made up those nasty "lies" about Trump wanting to pull out of the Paris Climate agreement?
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OH ninfan your trolling is tiresome boring and obvious BS- even Donald jr is outdoing you
Not a great day for American democracy
Very few winners in all that and this will drag on and on and on
President Trump is going to hit back hard according to BBC news so let's see which of those lefties agents will be caught out.
Drain the swamp here we come ... 😆
Not sure what Trump can do, not many people left to fire or blame.
Drain the swamp here we come ...
I thought "draining the swamp" was about corruption and stuff?
We have testimony of the President asking the Director of the FBI to pledge loyalty and drop an ongoing investigation because it is politically embarrassing for him. An investigation that he may yet be tied up in. And then apparently sacking him for not complying.
Doesn't that seem just a little bit "swampy" to you??
Graham why - did you learn nothing debating with flat earthers?
[quote=ninfan ]all the false claims being made by the lying Leftie media, politicians and hysterical SJW's
cite
That's not how you spell it aracer.
Go on mime those thoughts to me and post up the video
I agree, it's not black and white, the point is that to get the full meaning you need all three. And depending on the subject, then I agree the ratios vary (no-one wants an instruction manual for servicing their car that's based on mime)
But as counter:
I hope I don't meet you in a dark alley
as words on a page - am i scared of you or threatening you? Because it could be either, but I'd bet I could effectively mime which it is without words or tone of voice; I could also convey it in a phone call.
etc.
Anyway; Trumpy-pants-on-fire. The director of the FBI says so and I know who i trust more.
I thought "draining the swamp" was about corruption and stuff?
Yes, but he's easily confused.
If trump came out a tweeted 'black is actually white' I reckon ninfan and chewkw would fall in line.
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ninfan » all the false claims being made by the lying Leftie media, politicians and hysterical SJW'scite
Yes, please do. You wouldn't want to be accused of texting a load of stupid guff, would you.
Oh, wait...
Anyway; Trumpy-pants-on-fire. The director of the FBI says so and I know who i trust more.
Ah don't forget that Comey is a [i]Leftie Libtard Snowflake Cuck[/i] (or something), though that does make you wonder why he derailed Clinton by publicly reopening the email investigation a couple of days before the election.
We have testimony of the President asking the Director of the FBI to pledge loyalty and drop an ongoing investigation
No we don't
Go on, write down down what Comey says he actually said, rather than your 'interpretation' of what you think he meant - I dare you
Go on, write down down what Comey says he actually said, rather than your 'interpretation' of what you think he meant - I dare you
Sure.. here you go, taken from Comey's released testimony letter:
The President and I had dinner on Friday, January 27 at 6:30 pm in the Green Room at the White House.
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It turned out to be just the two of us, seated at a small oval table in the center of the Green Room.
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The President began by asking me whether I wanted to stay on as FBI Director, which I found strange because he had already told me twice in earlier conversations that he hoped I would stay..
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My instincts told me that the one-on-one setting, and the pretense that this was our first discussion about my position, meant the dinner was, at least in part, an effort to have me ask for my job and create some sort of patronage relationship. That concerned me greatly, given the FBI's traditionally independent status in the executive branch.
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A few moments later, the President said, [b]"I need loyalty, I expect loyalty."[/b] I didn't move, speak, or change my facial expression in any way during the awkward silence that followed.
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Near the end of our dinner, the President returned to the subject of my job, saying he was very glad I wanted to stay, adding that he had heard great things about me from Jim Mattis, Jeff Sessions, and many others. He then said, [b]"I need loyalty."[/b] I replied, "You will always get honesty from me." He paused and then said, [b]"That's what I want, honest loyalty."[/b]
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President began by saying, [b]"I want to talk about Mike Flynn."[/b] Flynn had resigned the previous day.
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The President then returned to the topic of Mike Flynn, saying, [b]"He is a good guy and has been through a lot."[/b] He repeated that Flynn hadn't done anything wrong on his calls with the Russians, but had misled the Vice President. He then said, [b]"I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go."[/b]
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the President called me at the FBI. He described the Russia investigation as "a cloud" that was impairing his ability to act on behalf of the country. He said he had nothing to do with Russia, had not been involved with hookers in Russia, and had always assumed he was being recorded when in Russia. He asked what we could do to "lift the cloud."
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I explained that we had briefed the leadership of Congress on exactly which individuals we were investigating and that we had told those Congressional leaders that we were not personally investigating President Trump. I reminded him I had previously told him that. He repeatedly told me, "We need to get that fact out." (I did not tell the President that the FBI and the Department of Justice had been reluctant to make public statements that we did not have an open case on President Trump for a number of reasons, most importantly because it would create a duty to correct, should that change.)
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the President called me and asked what I had done about his request that I "get out" that he is not personally under investigation. I replied that I had passed his request to the Acting Deputy Attorney General, but I had not heard back. He replied that "the cloud" was getting in the way of his ability to do his job. He said that perhaps he would have his people reach out to the Acting Deputy Attorney General. I said that was the way his request should be handled. I said the White House Counsel should contact the leadership of DOJ to make the request, which was the traditional channel.He said he would do that and added, [b]"Because I have been very loyal to you, very loyal; we had that thing you know."[/b] I did not reply or ask him what he meant by "that thing."
All seems pretty good stuff to me.
Trump said to him he hoped he would let the flynn investigation go
Which can be a threat eg 'You've got a nice shop here hope it doesn't burn down' and has legal precedence for being used to convict people , so there's hope 😉 yet
Here you go.
"He then said, 'I need loyalty.' I replied, 'You will always get honesty from me.' He paused and then said, 'That's what I want, honest loyalty.' I paused, and then said, 'You will get that from me.'"Comey also confirmed in his written testimony that Trump directly asked him to "let go" of the investigation into deposed national security adviser Michael Flynn. Quoting Trump, Comey writes of the Feb. 14 meeting in the Oval Office: "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go."
Go on, write down down what Comey says he actually said, rather than your 'interpretation' of what you think he meant - I dare you
Such a bold challenge!!!......
.....Which has met by everyone 😆
@ jon yes they can all matter i just despair when folk put so little meaning to the actual words
However as you note it can all depend as with mockery and sarcasm where it is largely all tone but most folk dont use them constantly [ except on STW ]
So we have on one side the exact words with none of the other (87% or whatever it is) contextualisation by body language and tone; and on the other the testimony of the person to whom it was said and was the only other person there. And Trump's defence (or rather, him getting his son to tweet as his schill) is that he 'only said hope'.
In the end, comes down to who we believe is more trustworthy.
Trump and his camp are not stupid, their words are deliberately chosen to be opaque, but again - quacking ducks, frankly.
So, like I said:
asking the Director of the FBI to pledge loyalty
[i]"I need loyalty, I expect loyalty."
"I need loyalty."
"That's what I want, honest loyalty."[/i]
So where did Trump actually ask him to pledge loyalty as claimed? Oh, dear, #fakenews
and drop an ongoing investigation
[i]"I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go."[/i]
SO where did Trump actually ask him to drop the investigation as claimed? Oh, dear more #fakenews
So, like I said:asking the Director of the FBI to pledge loyalty
"I need loyalty, I expect loyalty."
"I need loyalty."
"That's what I want, honest loyalty."So where did Trump actually ask him to pledge loyalty as claimed? Oh, dear, #fakenews
and drop an ongoing investigation
[i]"I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go."[b]SO where did Trump actually ask him to drop the investigation as claimed? Oh, dear #fakenews
Wow! Just.... wow! You really are that deluded.
@ jon yes they can all matter i just despair when folk put so little meaning to the actual words
I don't disagree, and maybe the graphic is misleading. It is possible to convey (simple) stuff with just body language and mime but anything of any complexity you definitely need the words and ideally need all three. It's why I encourage my team to at worst pick up the phone and speak to people, at best go and see people (not always possible in remote offices) - but always if it's a 'details' discussion follow it up with an email or 'memo' so you have a true record of what was discussed / agreed afterwards.
Which broadly is what Comey has done, albeit without giving the Don chance to read and counter the notes (with obvious reason)
Before you all have a paddy talking about semantics - just remember that you lot were the ones defending Jezza after he claimed he never met the IRA, He only met Sinn-Fein 😆
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just despair when folk put so little meaning to [u]the actual words[/u]
Quite 😉
So the bit you seem to have missed out is that Comey also confirmed that Trump himself wasn't actually being investigated over ties with Russia
Actually what he said was Trump wasn't being directly investigated. He could still be part of the wider investigation
Pitysake ninfan it really is amazing the lengths you will go to.
In summary, he had a private dinner with Comey, asked him if he like his job and wanted to keep it, told him he needed and expected loyalty, told him "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go."
And then when Comey didn't do that, he was sacked.
That doesn't sound even slightly dodgy to you? Really?
just remember that you lot were the ones defending Jezza after he claimed he never met the IRA, He only met Sinn-Fein
Nope I never did that. #fakenews.
just remember that you lot were the ones defending Jezza after he claimed he never met the IRA, He only met Sinn-Fein
No one's denying that. They just pointed out your hypocrisy when, your hero, Thatcher was entertaining members of the IRA as well, and it was a necessary part of the process.
Anyway, we digress: Back to your deluded obsession with Trump.....
no he will go to any length whilst you folk feed himPitysake ninfan it really is amazing the lengths you will go to.
His only desire is to get a response he knows what he is saying is BS he just likes to defend the indefensible to rile some lefties and they just play along as if they can get some sort of epiphany from him
Shame is he is clearly quite able to have a coherent debate if he wanted to.
We have testimony of the President asking the Director of the FBI to pledge loyalty and drop an ongoing investigation
No we don't. All members of the Government and the agencies pledge allegence to the flag and the USA. That's the required loyalty.
Trump, through his lawyer, has hit back hard as Chewy said he would
I am not sure it was that hard to predict that trump was not going to be contrite
He asked if he had his loyalty not if the country did .All members of the Government and the agencies pledge allegence to the flag and the USA. That's the required loyalty.
I expect even you can see the difference.
Jeez, DTs personal lawyer is no public speaker is he......
All i heard was a guy spouting yet more endless weasel words in an effort to twist and distract. No surprises there eh!
Have you read the letter from the [i]Predisents[/i] lawyer yet? . .
no but thanks for the link 😛
https://www.vox.com/2017/6/8/15763286/trump-lawyer-response-comey-hearing
Its like much of what Trump does partisan to the extent it is deeply misleading if not quite crossed the line to be complete and utter lies
They were rather selective on what they said about the director who dd of course call the Predisent[sic] a liar
the only issue here is how much damage he does to the republican party who seem to be prepared to prop a man who gained power with the fewest votes, colluded with the Russians to some degree who helped him get onto power and seems to have only a fleeting grasp pf integrity, diplomacy, honesty and consistency
The longer he stays the more damage he does to them. Currently it may all be below the water line but it is going to really hurt them in the long run that their loyalty was to their party and not to their country
Scotrail WiFi doesn't offer the luxury of reliability
Trumps lawyer has done as expected and taken some of the words Comey said and rearranged them into something less catastrophic for Trump.
[quote=piemonster ]Scotrail WiFi doesn't offer the luxury of reliability
It was meant as a playful dig but had corbyn won you would have 100MB by now
To be fair I understood the nature of your response.
But as I was still on the train....
The Solar Powered Wall
Trump Win 😀
Surely if the Mexicans are paying for it they will own all the electricity.
Nice fence, I'm sure the federal employees will appreciate their pension money being spent on it.
That's genius, gonna be facing south though obviously, will they have to build a 2nd wall to protect it ?
I'm sure there's no way the Mexicans would do anything bad to it like spray
Piss cock trump on the side?
Someone hasn't thought this through....
To be fair, they mentioned in the video the fact that it's a fence makes it resistant to graffiti.
Just when you think it couldn't get any stupider eh...... 😆
"The wall would now pay for itself"
er, no, no it wouldn't. What it will do is push the cost of the wall up by probably a factor of 10, and the limited area and poor insolation (hint, how many solar panels do you see on walls?) could never provide a positive return, and that's before you factor in having to put in place transmission infrastructure to get that power to any actual consumers.
#jumpedtheshark i'm afraid.
Trumps interview today, most rattled I've seen him claiming he'd testify under oath be what comey said