[Closed] does lily allen have any talent?

crouch_potato, I think you'll find that would be ATILITWT and not ALLEN as suggested

Allen stands for all that is lamentable in the world today.

Have to disagree with that one CP. At least she gets off her arse and actually does something to earn a living in a reasonably inoffensive way. There are numerous more deserving of the Rusty Spanner wrath.

Really? So many kids buy stuff because their friends do and the bands are deemed the ones to like.

I obviously skipped that fad then, as did most of my mates. We bought things that we heard and liked, if we heard it and didnt like it we laughed at it, regardless of what our mates thought. In fact we used it as ammo in insults, but we would certainly not have bought something we didn't like. If kids are THAT impressionble these days we have no hope.

Regardless, the OPs question was does LA have talent. Yes she does, as mentioned she can write catchy songs and get people to buy her albums. Those are talents. They may be scorned by musical purists but that is irrelevant. If the OP had asked if she had singing talent we could have come up with a more definitive answer..

Regardless I find her tunes catchy but not overly amazing. I'd not buy her tracks but I dont turn them off when they come on the radio.

does lily allen have any singing talent?

and of we go again. Yay!

At least she gets off her arse and actually does something to earn a living in a reasonably inoffensive way.

Funny, that brings to mid a certain Ms Allen...

" I just want to make some money, yeah?... I'm gonna retire at 25, yeah?... Just 'cos your mum was too lazy to get her fat arse up off the sofa and make some cash..."

Even without such outbursts (after all remember, she has had a trying upbringing) her utterly glib, me-me-me emotional patois and musical paint-by-numbers is vacuous dross.

I'm not sure of the appropriate emoticon for slightly tongue in cheek hyperbole (see also previous post)/you get the gist of things... 😉

I know its against the rules to post 'would you' threads but can I just say Lilly Allen doesnt do anything for me (but I would still....flash grenades/Uzi etc)

I can't resist jumping back into this again. What I like about Lily Allen is the music. Not the lyrics, which are naff, not her voice (although I do find it quite endearing) and certainly not her personality. However the production is great. It reminds me of hip hop, where the producer is king and the artist incidental. Dr Dre? DJ Muggs? Anything they turned their hand to turned out great, regardless of who was actually rapping over the top.

Allen stands for all that is lamentable in the world today

hmmm, sense of proportion failure. Before I started getting my knickers in a twist over harmless musicians we'd have to have solved starvation, poverty, racism, genocide, totalitarianism, depletion of resources and planetary devastation.

Even without such outbursts (after all remember, she has had a trying upbringing) her utterly glib, me-me-me emotional patois and musical paint-by-numbers is vacuous dross.

Not disagreeing with you there CP but I can't work up any enthusiasm one way or the other.

For truly vacuous dross you need only look at the input from the poster immediately after your last post. 🙄

Lordy, there's some jaded old moaners on here isn't there. You lot should listen to the blinkered crap you spout.

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Peter and Simon, relax, you appear to have missed the

I'm not sure of the appropriate emoticon for slightly tongue in cheek hyperbole.

[i]Before I started getting my knickers in a twist over harmless musicians we'd have to have solved starvation, poverty, racism, genocide, totalitarianism, depletion of resources and planetary devastation. [/i]

This is a noble ideal. However, you are not going to see any of those things solved in your lifetime. On the other hand, we can probably finish despairing of Lily Allen before tea-time, and do Kate Nash this evening, leaving tomorrow free to despair of Lady Gaga and Leona Lewis.

Go for the quick wins! 🙂

I'm not sure of the appropriate emoticon for slightly tongue in cheek hyperbole.

Oh, I can work out who's tongue is in the ir cheek alright, but mention music on STW and you always get 2 types of people posting - Those whos musical taste ended in 1979 and only listen to crusty overblown rock bands and look down on everyone else, and those who only listen to stuff nobody else cares about just because it makes them look cool and alternative (FFS there's a thread going about Kraftwerk! They were talentless-electronic-dirge crap of the first order 20 years ago. Now just old talentless-electronic-dirge crap)

The very worst are New Order fans. Utter, utter bilge. And yes, I've had the misfortune to see them live. What a load of depressing tripe. They really have no talent, yet are worshipped by the indie masses. Why?

For the record, I like anything really. Rock, punk, ska, pop, female vocal, classical, proper rock'n'roll, some dance, hip-hop, new, old....Bluddy anyhthing.
What I don't like is people that stick their nose in the air and pretend that because they 'know what they are talking about', a certain artist is rubbish.

Rant over. As you were.

(And I didn't even mention Radiohead fans.....oops 😉 )

EDIT - This is what I'm talking about -

A lot of people have crap taste - doesn't make her great just because she sells records

Who the hell are YOU to tell me my taste is CRAP???!!!!
Stick your opinion where the sun don't shine, halfwit.

PP

I was almost with you there until you mentioned thst you actually listened to that steaming pile of poo which makes the likes of Lily Allen et al look talented ie. C + W, then you went and rubbed it in by dissing Radiohead fans.................

I'm wounded ....................................deeply
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C&W is great fun, makes me laugh! Spent 2 weeks driving round the States singing along to it. Fantastic!
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I once bought a Radiohead album (The Bends I think) Listend to it once and swapped it for a Paul Weller album. Much better!

P.S. - I never like Paul Weller, until I saw him live. Stone the crows, that man is good!

Peter and Rudeboy are stylistically very different, but many of their posts are very similar. 🙂

Actually, the list of some of bands I've seen live is quite varied -

Status Quo
Green Day
Bjork
Fun Lovin Criminals
Chemical Brothers
Symposium
Prodigy
No Doubt
Travis
Save Ferris
Garbage
Skunk Anansie
Snuff
Eminem
Cypress Hill
The Selecta

Pick a musical taste out of that lot, if you can!
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PP

Heavy'ish slant to those !

Fair enough, I'll confess to seeing Barclay James Harvest and The Stranglers (in their heyday) on the same night + cranking up Lady Gaga whenever she comes on the radio 😯

I'm sorry, I got to that picture on the first page, dribbled a bit and didnt read much after.

[i]Pick a musical taste out of that lot, if you can![/i]

Dull, and a bit M.O.R ?

Sorry, you did ask.

Allen stands for all that is lamentable in the world today.

So we have MP's screwing us from all sides, chavs making a career out of being on the dole, the banks bringing the worlds finance system to it's knee's, kids getting stabbed on the streets, illegal wars for oil and it's Lily Allen that stands for all that is lamentable in the world today?

FFS 🙄 Get a grip man!

Who the hell are YOU to tell me my taste is CRAP???!!!!
Stick your opinion where the sun don't shine, halfwit.

Did I say your taste is crap? I'm saying that just because something sells well doesn't make it great - the biggest selling papers are crap compared to some of the others.

dunno if anyone has mentioned it but Lily is on the graham norton show tonight

Actually, the list of some of bands I've seen live is quite varied -

Status Quo
Green Day
Bjork
Fun Lovin Criminals
Chemical Brothers
Symposium
Prodigy
No Doubt
Travis
Save Ferris
Garbage
Skunk Anansie
Snuff
Eminem
Cypress Hill
The Selecta

In virtual terms, PP just walked into the room wearing a beige cardigan and slacks, said 'Hey kids, isn't Lily Allen great', and proceeded to dance in an embarrassing way. 😆

Pick a musical taste out of that lot, if you can!

And I agree with Nickc - definitely M.O.R.

no she should be shot!

I am not particularly into Pop music - at my age it's more grandpop 🙂

The first time I heard Lily Allen I thought that's a pleasant change, and when I saw her in an interview I thought she seems ok.

She's no great beauty, nor has she the voice of Susan Boyle, but she is a good package and I like her.

I have no idea who her father is BTW.

Why the venom against her, has she done something bad?

susan boyle?

her music is catchy, but her.come on

When she started she was a tubby little cheeky girl who said showbiz wouldn't change her. She now doesn't wear trainers like she always did, has lost 3 dress sizes and makes publicity my slating other singers, a bit of a singing jodi marsh really. Although i would 'do' her, i wouldn't do anything more. She only made 'it' big because of her dad, not like duffy or sandi thom for instance so she is her own worse enemy. She would do better to keep singing and keep her head down

her music is catchy

Your taste in music sucks you little gayer 😉

NO NO NO!!!

she sucks the pipe.

Lily Allen makes vacuous pop music, no more no less. She does it pretty well and therefore is successful, because lots of people buy vacuous pop music to play in the background whilst they are doing other things.

PP, your list lacks people I haven't heard of 😉

RAOFLMAO @ Susan Boyle

What next , a duet with Michelle McManus ??

Depends what you like to listen to.

Blues and Rock for me. Dance music for the gym.

Not sure about the marketing behind todays pop' kinda boring. But each to their own.

And I agree with Nickc - definitely M.O.R.

That may be some sort of compliment or some sort of insult, but I have absolutely no idea what MOR is. No, really I don't. Some sort of music mag generated tag?
(Eminem was total rubbish, by the way. I wouldn't bother again)

And this sort of thing

In virtual terms, PP just walked into the room wearing a beige cardigan and slacks, said 'Hey kids, isn't Lily Allen great', and proceeded to dance in an embarrassing way.

Even said in jest, proves my point. You judge people by the music they listen to because you think what you like somehow elevates you above me, that your taste is superior.....
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Just because the music snobs don't like Lily Allen doesn't mean a thing. I go my own way.

(I really really wish I'd got a pic of me from my BMX days. That would show you what I mean)
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I've seen Lilly Allen perform live when she was first staring out and supported the Scissor Sisters (don't ask) and she was actually pretty good.

Up to that point I pretty much thought like many of the blow-hards on here, that Daddy had made her career and some studio magic was involved somewhere. I was surprised to find she was actually pretty entertaining, not that I'd buy her albums or anything just I started to give her a little more credit for her performance.

I still think she is a bit of a two-faced cow though on the whole "I don't care what people think of my appearance/weight, I'm just me" shortly before losing three stone and bestowing the benefits of dieting to all who will listen.

But yes I would, I bet she goes like a stoat.

PP

MOR = Middle of the road

I think the posts critising your taste in music just reinforces the previous comment about musical snobbery. I wouldn't call most of those bands you have seen MOR, mainstream possibly but only by virtue of there success and not the musical content.

S&J I bet you are right 😆

[i]But yes I would, I bet she goes like a stoat.[/i]

I think, on the whole, it pretty much boils down to that, really.

LOL @ sootyandjim for going to see the scissor sisters 😆

best line i hear about Lily Allen was

"she's got the look of a ****ing retarded spaniel"

still love that line

on a serious note - you like her or you don't, most music that is in any way popular is so because it fits a demographic, you rarely hear good music because it's not very marketable

I thought there was simply different sorts of music.

I didn't realise that preferring one sort made you a superior individual to someone preferring/performing another. Some people have very sad lives by the look of it.

little know fact her stepdad is Harry Enfield, has to be said i think she quite cute and looks like a real women not skin and bones, don't mind her songs and can take them or leave them do think she writes with tounge firmly in cheek and i don't think she got where is is on her dads shirt tale after all he is only a third rate brit actor and not a very good documentry maker.

Boyle and Mick McManus? Mud wrestling?

'And this sort of thing

In virtual terms, PP just walked into the room wearing a beige cardigan and slacks, said 'Hey kids, isn't Lily Allen great', and proceeded to dance in an embarrassing way.

Even said in jest, proves my point. You judge people by the music they listen to because you think what you like somehow elevates you above me, that your taste is superior.....'

Definitely not PP - this year I've seen Fish (ex Marillion), Ultravox, going to see The Alarm, The Damned and Stiff Little Finger next week, and due to see Oysterband and June Tabor in July. So that's dodgy 80s stuff, and folk music. That definitely does not put me on the high ground for musical taste.

I cant see what the real fuss / point is here.. pop has always been the stomping ground of manicured musical outfits. When we dream back to the 50's and the 60's Elvis was manipulated and Berry Gordy was as responsible for what went out as Motown as Phil Spector was t othe Wall of sound.. why should Lily Allen have to be the first pop act to clean up and get real. I am sure as a young kid listening to the Archies chirpy chirpy cheep cheep my dad must of rolled his eyes whilst tolerating my right to listen.. . in fact that was all the fault of radio 1 and it took twiddling the dial to find Fluff Freeman that my taste started to improve.. much to my dads further chagrin and seeing school mates thinking Sweet or the Osmonds to be the best music had to offer.

Ultimately my real ability to enjoy a diverse taste only really started once I found John Peel, and reading an interview in NME or similar when his eldest kids were about 11 or 12 the journalist suggested they must be the most switched on kids in the world in terms of musical taste and JP replied at their age if he found them listening to Mark E Smith or Throbbing Gristle and not enjoying Sheena Easton or any other pop act and he felt he had failed in giving them a proper upbringing. Mark E would seek them out during the angst of teenage life when they were better prepared for him

I see many people enjoy Lily and right on too its still better than any of the trite shite Stock Aitken and Waterman heaped on us during the 80's

i have her first album and think it is superb. Not usually into pop music as such but I love this!