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There are [i]other[/i] photos of her, but you might get banned for posting them on here 😉
Her voice is so weak - it must get turned right up for recording.
munter.
Muggomagic, she's only in her late twenties yet look at her potential 'bingo-wings' in that shot ...
shes rubbish - from what I've seen of her I'd agree with RustySpanner, thought he put it very well
I have to agree with harry the spider - not only is she somewhat of a hound, she looks like a mouth breather. Talentless self absorbed coke hoover.
[i]she's only in her late twenties yet look at her potential 'bingo-wings' in that shot ... [/i]
[i]not only is she somewhat of a hound, she looks like a mouth breather. Talentless self absorbed coke hoover. [/i]
Sometimes, some of the posts on this site make me wonder about folk...Talk about bitter and resentful.
I've never liked her.
Her "singing" is not a patch on other women of her ilk (someone mentioned Bjork earlier who is, quite frankly, a legend) and her chat show was dire. It reminded me of The Word, but without the style.
Sorry, but even the "Cutesy" thing is not enough to make me like her.
[i]Her "singing" is not a patch on other women of her ilk [/i]
Bob Dylan can't sing for shit...
In these celebrity driven times, she has all she needs to be famous.
Her music is irritating cack. Not a patch on Girls Aloud in the [b]Pop[/b] stakes.
Cover of the NME...how times have changed...
yes, especially considering she wrote her 1st album herself (on the others she co-wrote) and you heard any of her live lounge stuff?
not my taste really, but its its decent pop and she isn't pretending to be someone else which is nice, as half the shit in the charts are just clones of US bands/groups.
more tolerable than some... but she's not Robyn
I think probably if dear Lily is still (?) a defining cultural figure in 45 years time we will forgive her hopeless singing voice, as we forgive Dylan his. But if we accept that every arrogant 20-something who can't really sing is effectively as great a musical talent as Dylan is then hell, I'm one as well. Where do I sign? 😉
oh I forgot, she does whine like only a Londoner can, which is annoying, but then again she doesn't whine nearly as much as RB which is a small mercy
amen to that
Her new single is utterly beyond parody: "It's not fair and I think you're really mean."
If you made that up to take the p*** people would think you weren't trying hard enough.
Agree with Big Dummy - She's an utter genius at self-publicity, punches well above her weight in terms of celeb rankings. The mouth of the south.
She's fun, her songs are sweet little ditties with hidden nasty barbs, she's an OK singer, and I'm surprised she's not even more popular.
ZOkes, what photos?
Seems fairly harmless, and she's not got a whiny northern accent, thank god.
isn't it rather ironic that a bunch of talentless nonentities criticise someone who isn't for being one ?
isn't it rather ironic that a bunch of talentless nonentities criticise someone who isn't for being one ?
I'm sure you'll have noticed I haven't criticised her 🙂
She does look like Jade Goody's little sister, though.
[i]But if we accept that every arrogant 20-something who can't really sing is effectively as great a musical talent as Dylan[/i]
I didn't say she was, I was merely making the point that singing ability and song-writing talent aren't necessarily the same thing, and Dylan's obvious lack of singing ability hasn't hampered his career. It just annoys me that apparently "because" her Dad is a minor Celeb it automatically means that she's had everything handed to her on a plate. Her Album sales alone would suggest that she's pretty popular. I'm just surprised at the level of misogynistic abuse aimed at her on this thread
No I would say, but she is individual and not afraid to speak her mind, which is refreshing in the world of pop!
Simon, I suspect if you take that argument to its logical conclusion then you will find that criticism of Paris Hilton, Jodie Marsh and other leading cultural icons of our age is impermissible. Despite being a person of no account myself, I am not really willing to accept that I have no right to say, of Paris for example, "I really do not see why you're interesting".
There are are two strands to this. Does the Allen person have any enduring talent [i]for music[/i]? And does she have a talent for something else? Clearly she is not a non-entity. But it seems unfair to outlaw the holding of the opinion that the reason she is not a non-entity is in fact that she is a well-connected self-publicist rather than a musical genius. 🙂
She does look like Jade Goody's little sister, though.
She looks like her father. Which isn't a nice thing to wake up next to.
I googled her lyrics after someone on here said about how good they were. ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH?? These are good lyrics in the sense that Father Ted's eurovision song had good lyrics.
I am not really willing to accept that I have no right to say, of Paris for example, "I really do not see why you're interesting".
you may say it but it's kinda "So what?". I'm not outlawing anything, just drawing attention to the irony.
I don't care if folk don't like her music (what she's famous for on the face of it), and you can happily argue all day about her talent or lack of it, what grates is that it's apparently OK to make pretty stinging comments about [i]because[/i] she's 1) the daughter of Keith Allen, (not that she can help who her Dad is) 2) A [u]woman[/u] singer 3) reasonably, but not stunningly attractive.
I thought we'd left all that shit behind us...
She looks like her father. Which isn't a nice thing to wake up next to.
You speak from experience?!
It's light hearted, easy listening pop. She can sing reasonably well, she presents it in a nice way, she's reasonably attractive. She's no world-shattering musical genius or lyrical god, but certanly has more singing/musical talent than the vast majority of the population must, so I suspect that makes her talented.
Personally dont think the media has a lot to answer for on the whole promoting thin people thing, but people who suggest she has bingo-wings on the way or a fat arse really do have a distorted view of reality.
She looks nothing like Jade Goody.
She looks a little like her father - really, you dont say?!
She can't sing - in comparison with Pavarotti no, in comparison with most acts in teh charts - yes. In comparison with Bjork, hell yes.
She cant write lyrics - again, in comparison with most artists out there she's up in the top end. In comparison with simon and garfunkel - no.
Does she have connections in the business - of course. Is that the only reason she is successful, of course not - it was a helping hand though I'm sure!
She looks nothing like Jade Goody.
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well apart from both being female, that proves the point nicely.
I think she's got bags of songwriting talent and I'm not a fan of most chart music. Her songs are witty, a little bit naughty and catchy as hell.
Her singing is kind of cutesy sweet, but I'll admit she hasn't got a very strong voice and it looks like singing live is hard work and sometimes a bit shaky.She's also looking well-fit at the moment!
I agree, except that I really like the music too. Her first album is a favourite of mine (No heard the second yet) A different sound that made me stop and listen, unlike all these modern pop guitar bands that I really can't tell one from the other - Keane, Snow Patrol and the like.
nickc - Member
I don't care if folk don't like her music (what she's famous for on the face of it), and you can happily argue all day about her talent or lack of it, what grates is that it's apparently OK to make pretty stinging comments about because she's 1) the daughter of Keith Allen, (not that she can help who her Dad is) 2) A woman singer 3) reasonably, but not stunningly attractive.I thought we'd left all that shit behind us...
She didn't become famous because of her musical talent though did she? She became famous as Keith Allen's singing daughter.
Who has attacked her for being a 'woman singer'?
And if she is going to appear in ridiculous photos like the ones above which have no relevance to her music at all then she can expect to be ridiculed. [i]She[/i] is the one who is using her body to make money, so what do you expect? For us all to say, phwoarrrr, I'd do 'er/look at the face on that? Or to be sensitive, pc, 21st century metrosexuals and be ever so polite?
FWIW, I don't really mind her at all. Just puzzles me that people feel they have to defend things that aren't worth defending. She's only an average singer guys, find something else worth getting worked up about.
Sorry, don't see the visual link between Lily and St. Jade.
She's a *pop* singer and not a bad one at that. Who knows how she will develop in the future? But for now I quite enjoy her product for what it is, catchy pop music.
and I though she was made famous through facebook or myspace and got her recording contract through that. It was only afterwards she let everyone know who her dad was.
regardless, if you are a better musician than her, link to some of your stuff so people can judge for themselves if you are better than her, or STFU
An average singer/talent at best, but "The Fear" (her best track, imo) was an above average pop song which I quite liked.
[i]regardless, if you are a better musician than her, link to some of your stuff so people can judge for themselves if you are better than her, or STFU[/i]
Is this a special rule applying to Lily Allen, or does it also apply to, say, the Chancellor of the Exchequer or the Prime Minister? 🙂
Really cannot see the resemblance to Jade either, BTW...
As above, I dont see the similarity in the photos, other than hair colour.
She didn't become famous because of her musical talent though did she? She became famous as Keith Allen's singing daughter.
As far as I know she did, I had no idea who he was or how they were related for ages. It was only when I saw her on TV talkign about her father that I made the link. none of her tracks were introduced as "daughter of..." when I heard them. Just because some people are "up" on who;s who in the media doesnt mean everyone listening is. Not everyone reads Heat and gossips about celebrities during lunch?
And if she is going to appear in ridiculous photos like the ones above which have no relevance to her music at all then she can expect to be ridiculed.
Its called publicity. Most artists do it. If you have "talents" flaunt them to get sales, its common sense.
The millions of people who've bought her records have bought them because she's Keith Allens' daughter?
Yep. all the people who buy Coldplay albums also want something recorded by Gwyneth Paltrow's husband. Stands to reason. 🙂
Ok, I'm wrong. I thought they looked quite similar, same shape face. Perhaps being surrounded by Spanish all day has ruined my visual acuity.
I've never heard of her father, he hasn't made it over here. Has he done anything good?
I was aware of her being Keith's daughter before I'd heard any of her music. (And I'm far from being 'up' on who's who). Maybe she really didn't use him as a way into stardom, but I find that hard to believe. And of course, if she did use his contacts as a way in then:
Bimbler - Member
The millions of people who've bought her records have bought them because she's Keith Allens' daughter?
Yes Bimbler, indirectly they did.
regardless, if you are a better musician than her, link to some of your stuff so people can judge for themselves if you are better than her, or [b]STFU[/b]
Nice sensible sixth form style post there.
There was me thinking that this is a forum for debate.
I doubt that most of the people buying Lily Allen's records would even know who Keith Allen is. I only know him as someone who has been in a few TV programmes and brit films from years back, and a Fulham fan who co-wrote Vindaloo with the bassist from Blur.
I remember hearing her 1st album when my daughter got it and thinking alot of the songs lyrics were very different. Her songs were about her life I suppose, and not typical Simon Cowell pop formula love songs.
most days it seems like a forum for whiners, and bitter old men who think life is so unfair.
Yes Bimbler, indirectly they did.
Dont be so ****ing daft. People buy records because they like the music.
I can't even carry this on, your point of view is so rediculous and based on total lack of logic.
The logic being she only got a break because of her father, I suppose?
Coffeeking - isn't the point that there are probably quite literally thousands of people with similar amounts of talent who never get a break, and when someone does who happens to have pretty good connections there is inevitably a suspicion that there is a causal relationship? The process of getting a pop album to the top of the charts is about a good deal more than the quality of the music, so almost the fact that an album is available to buy and being talked about on radio and TV is crucial.
I have absolutely no clue whether this is true in her case, likewise I do not have much grasp of who Keith Allen is.
EDIT: Morgrim was rather swifter... 🙂