[Closed] Do you jump red lights...?

I don't,

You've never ever jumped ared light? Have you ever ridden in a large town or city?

Yes plenty, I genuinely never have needed too.

I personally think both cyclists are motorists are equally to blame for the state of peoples attitudes towards the roads. Both sides need to make an effort to shape up on every ride/drive.

In London at least, drivers are slowly learning that they have to share the roads with cyclists. Many of them may not like it, but it's a fact they have to accept. That they choose to treat cyclists with animosity is their own decision, and it's unlikely that any amount of law-abiding by cyclists will change their minds. Such people think nobody else should be on the roads, so it's not just cyclists they despise. They hate everyone.

i think one of the biggest problems is just how stressful driving is in our towns and cities. And the reason for this is that there are simply too many cars on the roads, generally. That's the elephant that no-one seems able or willing to try to shift.

I think the tide is slowly starting to turn. i know people who've given up their cars, due to rising fule, parking and other driving costs, and are benefitting loads from making the change.

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i take them on an ad hoc basis. if there are cars/pedestrians that have a green then i'll wait until they've all gone. then i'm happy to proceed through on the basis that nobody is inconvenienced or endangered.

It's different in a car, don't ask me why it just is

Number plate recognition cameras, for a start.

In a car, I'll very rarely jump a red intentionally; I'd have to conclude that it's broken before chancing my arm. It does cheese me off though when you're sat staring into the void at an empty crossroads at 3am.

On a bike I'll wait for reds at junctions or, depending on the junction, maybe dismount and walk across the road. I'll go through crossings on red if there's no pedestrians about though.

Funny how many cyclists apparently can't wait 30 seconds for a light to change, but then complain about "impatient motorists" getting all irate when they are stuck behind them.

Everyone just chill. It's not a race.

There's one set that I will cos I can see round the corner and I tell whether it's safe. There's also a bit of dual carriage that I'll cycle on the pavement.

Never had anyone say any thing to me about it

Nope, saves so little time it's pointless.
Why do it if the lights are working? Stoopid.

rarely, occasionally do "for my own safety" all a matter of opinion of course so I'll accept it's still rulebreaking.

brucewees abusive father analogy (metaphor?) is brilliant.

do you also do the same on zebra crossings when someone is crossing?

of course not, I'll stop and often I get cars driving right passed me, I think one of the main things about RLJing is that if you take your time do it carefully and no-one else is affected then it's seen as a "victimless crime" which the zebra crossing is not, not sure anyone here would defend riding blindly through junctions swerving pedestrians and causing motorists to perform emergency stops - altho I do see this occasionally in manchester this seems generally to be done by POBs as opposed to cyclists, a distinction some will disagree with but you know what I mean.

But as others have said main disgruntlement I hear from real people is holding cars up 🙄 and not riding in the gutter (and generally even after explaining primary secondary and vehicular cycling they still say it's wrong)

I set up my Stravs segments with tricky light controlled junctions on them. 🙂