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The man opposite where I work runs a dry cleaning company.
Everyday I see him carrying large amounts of clothing up to the launderette where they do their 'special washes'.
Just now I have seen him running across the road.
He also has a disabled parking permit in his car where he parks anywhere he wants.
This really facks me off. I want to dob him in but feel bit of a grass.
I cycle to work so parking is not an issue for me.
Its just when you see people struggling and him fit as a fiddle aaaghh.
So should I grass and who to?


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 9:28 am
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If you think that a Blue Badge is being misused you should:
get as many details as possible from the badge on display
report the matter to your local council, who will investigate and take action

From [url= http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/disabledpeople/motoringandtransport/dg_4001061 ]here[/url]..

They have no remorse, why should you..?


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 9:31 am
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It may be not 'his' permit - it could just belong to a family member and he uses it for his business - I'd shop him.


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 9:33 am
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Or he may be disabled / restricted in ways that are not apparent.


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 9:35 am
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Maybe he has a wife/child who's disabled?

My sister has a disabled permit for her son but she doesn't abuse it for her own use.

You could check his badge and see who it's for or even ask him about it before dobbing him in.


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 9:36 am
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i say go stalker-mental.

get photo's, take notes, record times, buy night-vision goggles, follow him.

and then tell the council, and then get some therapy.


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 9:37 am
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Or he may be disabled / restricted in ways that are not apparent.

I'd like to hear of a disability which allows him to run around and carry heavy loads daily but which is restrictive enough such that he can't walk an extra few yards in a carpark.


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 9:41 am
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Dob him in.

Abuse is rife.

If he is genuinely disabled they'll let him keep it. If he's not then he'll lose it.

My favourite example of abuse is at the swimming baths in Poole, where there are disabled spaces right outside the front door, but they are pay and display.

So every day fleets of "disabled" drivers park their cars on the yellow lines of the main road about 100 yards away, blocking the road for other drivers, so they don't have to pay.


 
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I too have a 'blue badge'.

I compete in triathlons, run and ride regularly, consider myself to be pretty fit, but following a serious spinal op can have no spacial awareness if sat driving for any lenght of time, or when im tired. This results in me falling flat on my face when i get out of a car.

If this guy is taking the piss, then he need to be reported. Any genuinely disabled driver would have no qualms about this.

The point im making is please dont judge a book by its cover!


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 10:05 am
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no spacial awareness if sat driving for any lenght of time

isn't spacial awareness handy (some would say essential) when driving a car?

Dave


 
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Hahaha! cheers Dave! 😀

I cannot dorsiflex enough to clear the pavement............


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 10:10 am
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You have no spatial awareness whilst driving or only once you get out? I hope it's not the former...


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 10:10 am
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I cannot dorsiflex enough to clear the pavement.

I mean no disrespect, but I don't see how a blue badge would help in this situation?


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 10:12 am
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captaincarbon... still confused, but don't mean to pry (much).

Dorsiflexion is movement of your ankles/feet right? so isn't that also quite necessary when driving a car (brake pedal etc.)?

Dave


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 10:13 am
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[i]I don't see how a blue badge would help in this situation? [/i]

maybe the larger parking bays give more 'falling over' room?


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 10:14 am
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My dad has had a couple of strokes and as I understand it is legible for a blue badge.
But he doesn't have one as he doesn't feel he needs it and doesn't want to take advantage of the system. But he can walk miles & miles, swim, lift heavy objects etc. and you would be hard pressed to know he had any problems.

People in a similar situation to him may feel it is their 'right' to have a blue badge if they can get it, whether morally they should or not.
Perhaps he is one of these people?


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 10:18 am
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In the immortal words of Half man Half Biscuit:-

Blue Badge Abuser

A dirty rounder, a no-good fraud
A ne’er-do-well of the highest accord
I’ve got the supermarket sympathy vote
I’ve got a ten year old doctor’s note

‘Cos I’m a Blue, Blue Badge Abuser
I’m a Blue, Blue Badge Abuser

I park up in the pouring rain
The space was empty, who’s to complain
And if they did, I’d say I’m due for the op
And sprint wilfully off to the shop

‘Cos I’m a Blue, Blue Badge Abuser
I’m a Blue, Blue Badge Abuser

(Fetch my stick, Margaret!)

I used to favour Justice and Truth
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth
One day I know I’ll have to face his wrath
A walk in hell for a walk-in bath

‘Cos I’m a Blue, Blue Badge Abuser
I’m a Blue, Blue Badge Abuser
I’m a Blue, Blue Badge Abuser
I’m a Blue, Blue Badge Abuser
Blue Badge Abuser

From: Half Man Half Biscuit: Blue Badge Abuser - lyrics http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/csi-ambleside/blue-badge-abuser/#ixzz1aYauwMYc

I'd report him when i had the power to do so i threatened a colleague with the sack for routinely misusing a disabled space.


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 10:22 am
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isn't spacial awareness handy (some would say essential) when driving a car?

Women seem to manage okay.


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 10:24 am
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My mum used to have a blue badge because she ferried her mum, who was registered blind, about.

The first time they used it and parked in a disabled bay my gran got out of the car and put on a limp as she walked to the shop. My mum asked her what she was doing so my gran said that she thought that she should at least look disabled if they were going to use a disabled parking space.

Back to the OP. Dob him in.

If pisses me off to see all of the rich bitches round our way parking in the disabled bays in their massive 4x4s and flash coupes then tottering in to the shops on their high heels. Nowt wrong with the buggers, they just think that because they have a flash car they can park right outside the shop.


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 10:30 am
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Cougar.

It means i can park closer to my destination and not fall flat on my face! I work for the NHS, and need my car for home visits etc,

alfabus.

when driving you use a greater force to plantarflex using your calf (soleus) muscle when depressing pedals, to dorsiflex the muscles are more relaxed. When getting out of the car the muscle that lifts, or dorsiflexes the foot (Tibialis Anterior) doesn't recieve the signal correctly because of the spinal chord injury, to enable me to do this, so i can trip over a rizla paper!


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 10:31 am
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Or he may be disabled / restricted in ways that are not apparent.

Like my father in law.

All I would say is that ebfore you dob them in be very sure about what you are doing to make sure that it's his badge and him whose taking the mickey. Having someone investigated and having a badge taken away can be devastating. That said there are some people who take the p***


 
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stumpy01

Sorry to hear about your dad, i lost mine to a stroke last year.

its your Dads choice, and rightly so.

I use my right when i need to, i dont abuse it.


 
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ah, i see... so you can lift your whole leg to move from accelerator to brake pedal, but don't have the fine control to avoid arse-over-tit antics after you get out.

thanks for the explanation 🙂 Good luck with avoiding errant rizla papers.

Dave


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 10:39 am
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A few years ago I saw a Ferrari 360 parked behind Kendals with a blue badge. Clearly not a wheelchair user then?

And Harry... the rich bitches in 4x4's you're talking about. The same ones who pull up on the zig zag yellow lines outside the school to drop the kids off. Technically they could be classed as disabled. As they certainly seem to have lost the use of their ****ing legs!


 
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6e_zcp-W2g

one of these binners? 😉


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 10:58 am
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Yesterday in the disabled Bay I saw a car with a disabled sticker in it.
It was a spoof one and said deafened by the funk in small letters underneath it.k
Honestly how low can you get?


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 11:04 am
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Was it James Brown?


 
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Maybe be has a stutter .


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 11:12 am
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dob then in but they may have a legitimate reason ..it is very annoying and inconsiderate.
Some fit healthy folk who cannot even be arsed to walk a few extra metres to a shop...I hate them.


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 11:19 am
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Some fit healthy folk who cannot even be arsed to walk a few extra metres to a shop...

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Posted : 12/10/2011 11:24 am
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deafened by the funk in small letters underneath it.k
Honestly how low can you get?

You're confusing 'funk' with 'bass.'


 
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All I would say is that ebfore you dob them in be very sure about what you are doing to make sure that it's his badge and him whose taking the mickey. Having someone investigated and having a badge taken away can be devastating

If the badge isn't being misused, then they'll investigate and take no action, non?


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 11:27 am
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My dad had a blue badge permit, parked in Tesco one day, all the disabled spaces full, so double parked over 2 spaces to get his wheel chair out, abuse from a fat woman who wanted to park next to me ,despite a huge car park, told her to report it to shop management.

Took dad into Tesco, did his shopping, local natives had stolen all the disabled trolleys that clamp onto the wheel chair, so a young lady offered to push a trolley round for us, as you cant push a trolley and a wheelchir independantly.

Got outside and the usual bmw chav, was moving out of a disabled space,and it was pouring with rain, so ran and got the van, as i was reversing into the space, a very angry chap, started screaming and shouting, so asked what the problem was, he said youre holding up the traffic reversing into a space, and youre also in a disabled bay, he shouted youre not disabled, by this time a large crowd of rubber neckers had gathered, got out of van and a woman decided she would have a go,demanding to know why i had parked in a disabled spot.

I pointed out i was picking my dad up, like hell you are they shouted, i then pointed to my dad, sitting in a wheelchair,a forlorn looking frail chap,registered blind and suffering from terminal cancer, his both feet tightly bandaged due to leg ulcers.

They all looked,i shouted at them he is disabled, now piss off, and they did very red faced.

NEVER TAKE DISABLED OR MOBILITY IMPAIRED PEOPLE AT FACE VALUE, DISABILITIES COVER A LOT OF ILLNESSES AND MEDICAL CONDITIONS, AND THEYRE NOT ALL WRITTEN ACCROSS THE FOREHEAD FOR IGNORANT BYSTANDERS TO SEE.


 
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NEVER TAKE DISABLED OR MOBILITY IMPAIRED PEOPLE AT FACE VALUE, DISABILITIES COVER A LOT OF ILLNESSES AND MEDICAL CONDITIONS, AND THEYRE NOT ALL WRITTEN ACCROSS THE FOREHEAD FOR IGNORANT BYSTANDERS TO SEE.

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well said project -


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 12:11 pm
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project:

Been through similar while ferrying a wheelchair-bound 93 year old great grandmother around.

That's the worst thing about the folk that have counterfeit badges (or just park in disabled bays because they are selfish cocks) - they make the rest of the world suspicious and angry, to the point that genuine cases get shouted at in supermarkets.

One person's selfish misdeed causing hassle and stress for perfectly innocent people. Annoys the crap out of me.


 
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Thank you project


 
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Project

Don't think the OP was taking anything at face value - running, carrying heavy loads on a daily basis would suggest to me that it would do no harm to enquire...

So that people in your situation have more spaces available to you.


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 12:26 pm
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project is right but this isn;t what the OP was describing - it's just someone using a blue badge to make their job a bit easier for them.


 
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EVER TAKE DISABLED OR MOBILITY IMPAIRED PEOPLE AT FACE VALUE, DISABILITIES COVER A LOT OF ILLNESSES AND MEDICAL CONDITIONS, AND THEYRE NOT ALL WRITTEN ACCROSS THE FOREHEAD FOR IGNORANT BYSTANDERS TO SEE.

+1

Had the same sort of incidents/glares/mumblings when I used to take my dad places who was diagnosed with terminal cancer


 
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My friend's brother is mentally impaired and has some movement restriction, so they have a disabled badge. They pass it around the family so they can park in the convenient spaces. Plus he, whilst registered disabled, can walk about town all day no problems.

A blue badge should be used with discretion and responsibility. But those things are way beyond a sizeable section of society it seems.


 
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Really nice to have people agreeing with me for once.

Perhaps everyone should just for a few hours spend some time in a wheelchair to see the ignorance,hatred, and stupidity shown to people with disabilities, any single one of can be struck down with a disability.

Oh and i wasnt having a go at the O/P or anyone else, just trying to show,not all disabilites are on show.


 
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People with limited or impaired mobility (which includes not only wheelchairs, but blindness, shortness of breath etc.); I have absolutely no problem with them having and using a blue badge.

Genuine question: What is the benefit of a blue badge to someone who has no mobility impairment (i.e. the aforementioned cancer sufferer, someone with mental problems who can 'walk around fine all day', my cousin's boyfriend with haemophilia) ?

Are badges given out to anyone with any disability, or are there criteria?

Surely those with a genuine need would be better served by badges being given out more sparingly.

Dave


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 1:44 pm
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TBH, I was wondering the same thing.

Surely the whole point of the blue badge scheme is to make life easier for people with mobility issues, rather than being blanket "disabled" badges? Someone who's, say, deaf would be registered disabled, but can walk from the other end of a car park as easily as I can.


 
Posted : 12/10/2011 1:50 pm
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hatred

Hatred of disabled people? Really? (genuine question)

Btw anyone see that episode of House where he lost his disabled spot to someone with much more severe disability who was in an electric wheelchair? He had to limp across the car park but she could have rolled as far as she liked with no extra trouble.

Interesting point I thought.


 
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