I agree its a storm in a teacup. I think what it shows is the calibre of the labour front bench. i.e.: completely politically clueless
Need good old Mandy back at the reigns....
That's the thing with the right, it's okay to generalise brown people but my god if you generalise poor white man it's all "down with the liberal elite"!.
It was my niece who yesterday said to me that the "outrage" which the Thornberry tweet caused among right-wingers was because they projected their own prejudices on the story.
Thornberry posted the picture accompanied with just 3 words "image from Rochester". Right-wingers were quick to denounce her as a snob because they themselves feel a sense of snobbery when they see England flags draped on a cheap house with a white van parked in the front.
Why are you providing what Ed Miliband says as evidence Z-11, because he's leader of the Labour Party and [s]you want to play silly point scoring party politics ?[/s] she's a labour politician and one of his biggest supporters?
FTFY
I guess that at the end of the day you will never cease to be a hypocrite
'Red Ken cha cha cha...'
Yep, you will never cease to be a hypocrite or to engage in silly puerile taunting.
ah, sorry, I missed the subtext
clearly after trying to land a punch earlier in the thread by accusing me of being a UKIP supporter, and watching it fall by the wayside, you've committed to just throwing insults around because someone dared say something nasty about the precious Labour Party that you so definitely don't support and wouldn't vote for (just like you get all irate and start throwing abuse at THM over denying he's a Tory supporter 😆 )
All is well in the world once again then, carry on floundering Ernie 😉
Its really simple anyone flying any flag from their home is........daft ! but because its a council house doesn't necessarily make it a racist act.Are council house dwellers somehow worthy of contempt?
Nope, but when they fly the flag, it only means one thing IME. I asked you if you knew different, and it was a serious question because I could have got it all wrong, but you haven't responded. When I actually lived in Oldham (1967 - 1991) there were no flags outside anybody's house.
....you've committed to just throwing insults around because someone dared say something nasty about the precious Labour Party that you so definitely don't support and wouldn't vote for (just like you get all irate and start throwing abuse at THM over denying he's a Tory supporter
I am both highly critical of the Labour Party and, unlike you and THM, perfectly honest with how I vote.
I don't pretend to be anything I'm not. And I expect people who are quick to wade into political debates to show simular honesty.
Thanks for your earlier link reminding everyone about this btw
I've voted UDF/Modem in the first round of every national election I've voted in and then RPR/UMP or Les Verts in the second round. In the European elections I've voted Modem or Les Verts.
Find a quote to substantiate [i][b]exactly[/i][/b] that or modify the comment (quoted in full for posterity).Tom_W1987 - Member
You mean like Muslims are allowed to be exempt from sweeping generalisations as well Digga? Something that you and a few others on here are rather good at doing.
The thing with [i]some[/i] (no crass generalisations here) the left is, it's all do as we say, not as we do. Saying you are liberal is not the same as actually being liberal - pro democracy and freedom.Tom_W1987 - Member
That's the thing with the right though, it's okay to generalise brown people but my god if you generalise a poor ickle working class white man it's all "down with the liberal elite"!
People have a right to fly flags and without having sweeping generalisations assumed of them, especially by those who, by dint of their ambition and position, seek to lead and sit in judgment over the population.
Cool, what other things can I do publicly and demand that no one makes sweeping generalisations of me which then turn out to be true ?
Nazi salutes?
Burning poppies?
Beating up puppies?
Wife bashing?
Singing Hare Krishna giving out free food?
I am heartened to realise you would make no assumptions about these people and not judge them for it is apparently bad to judge people even when what you say is correct.
Weak, weak argument
Inductive fallacy overdrive. Where to start.
Actually, I'm not really qualified to offer psychiatric advice so I'll leave it to someone else to explain the gulf of difference between the argument I posited and the ejaculation of fantastic non sequitur it triggered on your keyboard.
Blimey, I must have been caught up in a BNP/EDL march in Twickenham on Saturday - the St George Cross was everywhere, on folk, houses, cars and pubs. 😯
Lucky to get out alive mate.Nobby - Member
Blimey, I must have been caught up in a BNP/EDL march in Twickenham on Saturday - the St George Cross was everywhere, on folk, houses, cars and pubs.
ernie_lynch - Member
...unlike you and THM, perfectly honest with how I vote.
A wonderful paradox. So this sentence is in itself dishonest (and rude and insulting). So if we assume that is how you post, then the next bit doesn't follow....
I don't pretend to be anything I'm not.
Obviously....we now know exactly how to treat any future post then?
And I expect people who are quick to wade into political debates to show simular honesty.
Ie, to misrepresent in order to get a reaction (your well established tactic). You should be on the front benches, Ernie...
