[Closed] David Icke at Wembley last Saturday

No not really and putting it in bold in every post just means you really really really want someone to ask you about your new pet conspiracy.

I'd really rather you didn't ask me about it and looked into it for yourself, it's pretty shocking.

But just in case you forgot what it is that you should research it's:

[b]MK-ULTRA[/b]

I have found this

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Anyhow, nightypoos, sweet dreams; hopefully you'll dream of the weird people wearing tinfoil hats and not have nightmares about the ones torturing kids.

Does it have to be one or the other ?

Can I not dislike peadophiles [b]and[/b] think conspiracy loons are idiots ?

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That pic has got me lolling, I have to admit though I am often a bit intense and mostly serious within this subject matter, I am of course just trolling it up at the mo.

😆

That said [b]MK-ULTRA[/b] is no laughing matter 😐

Oh, and don't worry, Psy is sound, he's in my posse, Gangnam Style...

we even managed to get Korean Airlines to pull out of Israel a while back.

I am of course just trolling it up at the mo.

Welcome to Edinburgh. Feel free to use the defence.

I just googled mk ultra and am not suprised at all. It's pretty much standard Cold War thriller fodder.
Truth serums and the old phone call triggers matey to go and do what ever they where pre programmed to do.

Am I supposed to be shocked.

I looked into MKUltra (no hyphen or bold type and fewer capitals) a couple of years back (possibly when the last conspiracy theory barmpot was on about it on here, I don't remember). And to be fair, it's pretty shocking stuff.

However, as Chip says, it was a product of post-WWII cleanup (Operation Paperclip and a supporting cast of thousands) and "if they are, we better had as well" Cold War paranoia. It started in the early 50s and was closed down over 40 years ago.

So quite where you're going with this beyond "the CIA did some nasty shit half a century ago" I don't really know. I'd ask if I thought you were capable of giving a straight answer, but I expect you're going to tell me you know the truth that it's still going on because you've found a photograph somewhere of Ronald Regan in the same room as Jimmy Savile.

Mental health care is quite recent I think emphasising the word care.
It used to be a case of just locking them up.
People used to go on day trips to point and stare at the loony people like you would visit a zoo today.
In fact even people with serious physical disability were viewed as freaks up untill not that long ago.

So experimenting on the mentally ill, I think disgusting but the fact it went on does not shock me as in the surprised sense of the word.

Cold War was serious business with both sides worrying about whether the other was gaining the scientific or technological edge after divvying up the nazi scientists. And short of espionage they could only guess what the other was upto and how far they had got doing it.

Would just like to emphasis my use of the words loony people and them is in keeping with the attitude I describe and not my feelings,

Incase anyone misunderstands.

"child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite"

But not to worry, let's just change the subject.

Just to be clear - jivehoneyjive has[s]n't[/s] articulated what he means here. [s]It's not that[/s] he's articulated it and not everyone is convinced - it's that [s]he hasn't even articulated what he means in his own terms.[/s] konabunny and others can't be arsed to read; if you gave them enough bricks to build a house, they'd just throw them at each other, without the constructive approach needed to assemble them together

FTFY

The pyramid diagram does most of the explaining, a real world example of this is Mi5 filming MPs abusing kids for blackmail purposes.

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In seemingly unrelated matters[/i]:

Why did the last pope resign?

No you have not at all.personally I would not even say you have tried to show it let alone have. You made a claim put up some links , none of them supported this view and then changed tack and pages later claimed you had "proved" it
If you have you should have your day in court or else you just dont care, tolerate paedos are complicit and all the other unpleasant stuff you say to anyone who may question your lack of evidence.

To be fair, I don't feel I have to go into too much depth on this particular thread, as many times over the months/years I've provided avenues for you to research at your leisure, rather than clogging the forum with too many links and too much information which would doubtless bore and confuse the uninitiated.

Your failure to comprehend is not my failure to provide information.

It's a lovely day out there, I'm off for now, don't spend too much time bickering on the internetz eh?

But if you are going to hang around, you could at least do the courtesy of answering my question:

Why did the last pope resign?

mikewsmith - Member 
Homework? Whats that all about then. Must be time to GO and do something else, this RIDE seems to be going round in circles. [b]Anyone know anything about BIKES[/b]

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I don't think you do Mike...do some of you even get out on your bikes? If I wasn't full of cold and bored I would be out myself rather than being a sheep and agreeing with the majority baaaaaah. 😆

You've not explained it in any way whatsoever.
How is child abuse central ?
What happens if it stops ? Governments crumble and religion stops ?
No ?

You've not explained anything.

Stop wasting time telling people they wouldn't understand
Stop insulting people who ask you to explain.

Just explain it.

Oh, and can you use words instead of pictures.

We are all waiting to hear why you seem to think .....

"child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite"

When you have explained that, then we can move on to whatever else you feel the need to carp on about.

I presume you are incapable of explaining it, mainly because you just blindly regurgitated it from some conspiracy website or other.

Because he was 87 which is very old. Age is particualy a problem when trying to lead an internecine feuding mob with dark secrets . His replacement hardly fits with a lizard paedo conspiracy does he ? Or was he on Jim Will Fix It too?
I must say when I Googled mkultra I was shocked and surprised that anyone thinks it is either big news or currently relevant I knew everything about it other than the code name . I can only assume jivehoney is quite young and discovering recent history for the first time and believing he us finding secrets.
If you want a real peodo conspiracy you should look to Shetland and Cleveland but that cuts in the wrong direction for the sheeple mockers.

You know, I'm in serious danger of closing this thread as it's going absolutely nowhere.

JHJ, you've mentioned MKUltra in pretty much every post for two pages, so it's clearly something you [b]really [/b]want to talk about. Finally, Chip and I both replied to you, at which point you completely ignore our replies and start asking vague questions about the pope instead. I don't doubt for a moment that if someone were to go "go on, tell us about the Pope" you'd post some picture of him in a room with Prince Charles and go "see, makes you think doesn't it!", assert that it's far too complicated to explain here but we should all look into it, and then start asking handwavy questions about moon landings or something. The whole thing is an effort in futility because as soon as anyone thinks "oh go on, lets discuss this" you change the subject.

You haven't "given anyone any bricks", you've had someone on the Internet tell you what a brick looks like once, and in your head you've now got a mental image of a three foot high pineapple. You then claim to have the architect's design for the house, but won't show anyone because it's obvious.

Continually asserting 'what about this then, eh? Do your research sheeple!' isn't providing evidence, it's making you sound like a supporting character on the X-Files. Either you're not actually listening to anything anyone says, or you're going to an exceptional amount of effort to troll a bunch of cyclists.

Either you're not actually listening to anything anyone says, or you're going to an exceptional amount of effort to troll a bunch of cyclists.

Are you taking bets?

Here is a pic of the Mi5 badge if you're having trouble reading:

No it isn't.

It was at the time of much of the historic abuse.

I am of course just trolling it up at the mo.

The pyramid diagram does most of the explaining, a real world example of this is Mi5 filming MPs abusing kids for blackmail purposes.

I can only assume jivehoney is quite young

jivehoneyjive - Member

It's a lovely day out there

Where abouts are you ? I suspect more bullshit.

By the way, on the all-seeing eye thing: if you believe that it is a hiding-in-plain message that is designed to signify the constant and secret surveillance of the illuminati over the population, then it would indeed be incongruous if it was used by all sorts of supposedly innocent organisations.

However, if you are actually an organisation dedicated to the secret surveillance of the populace, like MI5 is, then the all-seeing eye would be an entirely appropriate and congruent logo - in fact, it would almost be a bit clichéd.

"However, if you are actually an organisation dedicated to the secret surveillance of the populace, like MI5 is, then the all-seeing eye would be an entirely appropriate and congruent logo - in fact, it would almost be a bit clichéd."
Badgetrackworld suggests that the all seeing eye and owls are running neck and neck in the security cliché badge stakes. It also suggests the triangle badge jivehoney posted ain't official . mi6 had a brain in a c. The conspiracy links to the badge also single out Mobil as obvious illuminati because they have an O in their company name. Orange bikes have some explaining to do.

JHJ, why do you think the members of the purple circle are being so blatant about showing off their membership these days? It's almost as if being so obvious, that people miss it. Why not just stay secret? Are they foreshadowing something that is about to be revealed?

And it's everywhere isn't it. The H of Commons symbolism is so in your face it's incredible. Amazing stuff.

doubtless bore and confuse the uninitiated.

Your failure to comprehend is not my failure to provide information.

I don't think you do Mike...do some of you even get out on your bikes?

mikewsmith - Member 
I don't think you do Mike...do some of you even get out on your bikes?

Well your stalking is still a bit half arsed. I'm guessing this is another one of your clever jokes there Chris. As for posting a fair bit other side of the world and the timings are coinciding with me finished it project off and sitting in airports. Bike has to wait until Sunday next week.
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Stalking?? Eh....please don't flatter yourself sunshine..

thats fine then, I'll go back to my club sandwich and beer then. Not really sure what your running joke is but at least it's a change from JH's repetitive BS and referring it all back to the pyramid.

Cougar - Moderator

You haven't "given anyone any bricks", you've had someone on the Internet tell you what a brick looks like once, and in your head you've now got a mental image of a three foot high pineapple. You then claim to have the architect's design for the house, but won't show anyone because it's obvious.

Hurrah for this post!

Blimey, you lot have been busy.

Can't help but feel that this is the kind of groupthink that those who erroneously thought the earth was flat would've displayed when the clever dudes who had amassed sufficient reference points to declare the earth was round first presented their theory.

My apologies for challenging what you've been led to believe, but I haven't been the one telling fibs...

Seem to recall not so long ago there was a guy on here (not me) who said that some time before the Jimmy Savile story broke, he had presented similar 'conspiracy theories' surrounding 'Sir' Savile and received similar ridicule.

You may have noticed though, I'm a persistent bugger.

Whether or not I can be assed to amass sufficient information to shake your world view is very much going to depend on you, as individuals.

Whether or not I can be assed to amass sufficient information to shake your world view is very much going to depend on you, as individuals.

People keep asking for information to support your little stories.

And you've consistently failed to "be assed" to provide anything at all.

So I'm going to put my money on you shaking precisely zero world views. Ever.

You may have noticed though, I'm a persistent bugger.

My apologies for challenging what you've been led to believe, but I haven't been the one telling fibs...

So's herpese and shingles; and both are just as irritating.

What is the basis of your irritation?

Do you know why it is that this makes you tickle sooo bad?

You may have noticed though, I'm a persistent bugger.

Not at all - in fact I've noticed the complete opposite, ie, when you are asked to explain a point which you appear to be making you very often drop the point, never explain it, and never repeat it.

As an example two days ago I asked you to explain this comment which you had made :

Nicholas Fairbairn (who had an affair with Esther Rantzen of Childline Fame)

You never explained the significance of having an affair with Esther Rantzen of Childline fame, and you never repeated the comment, you just quickly dropped it when you realised that you couldn't explain what point you were trying to make.

I wouldn't call that being persistent, I would call it being inconsistent.

What is the basis of your irritation?

Do you know why it is that this makes you tickle sooo bad?

"My apologies for challenging what you've been led to believe, "
Problem is you haven't actually challenged anything . You present old news as if it is some secret you have discovered then try to randomly thread disparate facts into an overarching narrative with no actual use of logic or reason then refuse to show your working.
Why would mi5 seek to black mail MPs with pedophilia for example. If the mp needed to be controlled why not secure the election of a biddable candidate or remove the problem MP by broaching his sexual preference publicly . How fortunate for MI5 that the MPs they need to contoll are pedophiles a statistically small group. Do mi5 identify paedos and manipulate their lives and the democratic process to make them want to be MPs then get them elected so that they can then blackmail them and control Parliament?
Sorce for your mi5 badge seems odd that a secret dept that was not officially acknowledged to exist and had no name just known by it's old door number had an official badge.?

As an example two days ago I asked you to explain this comment which you had made :

Nicholas Fairbairn (who had an affair with Esther Rantzen of Childline Fame)

You never explained the significance of having an affair with Esther Rantzen of Childline fame, and you never repeated the comment, you just quickly dropped it when you realised that you couldn't explain what point you were trying to make.

I wouldn't call that being persistent, I would call it being inconsistent.

Strangely, many of my questions remain unanswered, perhaps you are electing yourself as the spokesperson for the groupthink?

Or are you acting as an individual?

Either way, let's lighten this up a bit;

I know, lets play tennis; that was a pretty aggressive serve, but I got ya...

There are allegations that Esther Rantzen is herself involved, having been named as participating in abuse, some say Childline is a front organization to ensure victims of any high ranking/well known figures are not seen by professionals outside the 'purple circle'.

Personally, I'm not convinced by these allegations by any stretch of the imagination at this point, but I keep it in mind should further information arise.

OK, here's my volley:

Why did the last pope resign?

Because he was 87 which is very old. Age is particualy a problem when trying to lead an internecine feuding mob with dark secrets . His replacement hardly fits with a lizard paedo conspiracy does he ? Or was he on Jim Will Fix It too?

Lizards!! ***king Lizards!!

Are you nuts?

I appreciate this is a David Icke thread, but maybe we have a major misunderstanding prevailing here.

I never said a damn thing about lizards, that is bonkers!!

Personally, I'm not convinced by these allegations

So when confronted by the obvious stupidity of this comment :

[i][b]Nicholas Fairbairn (who had an affair with Esther Rantzen of Childline Fame)[/i][/b]

You respond (after initially trying to completely ignore it) with :

[i]"Personally, I'm not convinced by these allegations"[/i]

And you want to be seen as a "persistent bugger" ?

You are weak and inconsistent.

So when confronted by the obvious stupidity of this comment :

Nicholas Fairbairn (who had an affair with Esther Rantzen of Childline Fame)

You respond (after initially trying to completely ignore it) with :

"Personally, I'm not convinced by these allegations"

And you want to be seen as a "persistent bugger" ?

You are weak and inconsistent.

You have not answered the question presented, do you want me to draw attention to the flaws that obviously highlights, or do you want to be a big brave boy and have a go at meeting your own standards?

I never said a damn thing about lizards, that is bonkers!!

How narrow minded of you, are you scared of the truth ? Open your mind and do the research.

Tell you what sweetie, be a doll and have a look into it yourself would you, I'm a bit tied up with the very real and extensive phenomenon of child abusers in positions of power if you hadn't noticed.

Thanks xxx

😛

Now, if you could live up to the expectations you have of others and answer the question I asked, you might regain my respect.