See also: curling
I think if Eve Muirhead was screaming "Hard!" at me I'd be sweating too - she was scary!
I think you could make a bit of a case that dressage is a bit physical (for the human), but the Scrotes’ ruling thankfully knocks it out anyway.
Oaright bruv let's kill it in the dressage fam.
I’ve seen people break a sweat whilst playing it.
See also: curling
I’m not a fan of cricket, but my memory from seeing my grandad watch it, is of men wearing woollen cable knit jumpers playing it. People used to wear that shit to go fishing in the North Sea and climbing K2. I’d break a sweat sitting still whilst wearing one. No idea what they wear nowadays as I have more interesting things to do, like putting the bins out.
Shirley snooker falls into the same place. Game, not sport.
Swimming and martial arts out then?
Thread of the year for me. 😂
Eve Muirhead was screaming “Hard!” at me…
Dave Goggins, surely.
Swimming and martial arts out then?
I suppose you've had to change out of normal footwear, so maybe not 🙂
It’s as much a sport as shooting or archery. All require physical skill. That one is not an Olympic sport is cultural.
martial arts out then?
Glupton showed us all how poor pro martial artists are a few years back.
In other news that 35 16 year old is in the finals. £100,000 minimum pay day, isn't it? With £500,000 for winning. Fair play to the lad!
It’s as much a sport as shooting or archery. All require physical skill.
I think we're in agreement......none of them are sports.
Sport or not, he has played amazingly well!
That 132 out, of: bull, bull, double 16 was a thing of beauty 😍
Ps I started playing darts at much the same age as him - I used to think I was good 😂😂😂
£100,000 minimum pay day, isn’t it? With £500,000 for winning. Fair play to the lad!
However you cut it - that's a lot of kebabs.
add golf<br />
Try hitting the ball 300 yards on the fly or swing the club at 180mph and then come back and tell me that you don’t need to be fairly athletic to be a top golfer. The game has moved on since the days of fatties winning anything in the pro ranks..
That’s like an ebike rider
and it’s better for the environment than driving
Are eSports the equivalent of [s]outcasts[/s] eBikes?
need to be fairly athletic to be a top golfer
The comparison between my fitness and speed, dress sense and style compared to Loic Bruno is perhaps paralleled in golfing?
doing our sport
What sports that then?
I don’t care if it’s a sport or not, I am seriously impressed with what he has achieved in his first pro tournament. Well done to him.
It's arithmetic - competitive subtraction. (with added complexity of the three times table)
John Daly used to drink 40 tins a day and never failed a drugs test whereas had he been drinking 40 cortados he'd probably be done for caffeine abuse
Surprised F1 drivers aren't been dragged into this but they wouldn't get into the seat with anymore than 10%fat or excess muscle
Try hitting the ball 300 yards on the fly or swing the club at 180mph<br /><br />
It’s amazing what you have to do to go for a walk these days.
Nice bit of middle class sneering at a working class activity here. That and slagging a teenager off for the way he looks, not cool imo. I know nothing about darts but the lad clearly has a prodigious talent for it, which is going to make him financially secure. Good on him 👍
Climbing uses special footwear and I’ve never seen it as a sport. Just a fun challenge that’s occasionally scary. Golf is definitely not a sport in my eyes. It involves dressing like a dickhead and comes with a function room and bar. It’s a club with clubs.
Nice bit of middle class sneering at a working class activity here.
I’m working class and you’ve definitely summed it up. Activity, not sport. I think the OP started the thread in a lighthearted fashion. As per STW forum rules it has been dragged in to serious territory.
Rowing can’t be a sport either then, because you’re basically just sat on your arse
That’s like competitive telly watching
Golf is definitely not a sport in my eyes. It involves dressing like a dickhead
TiRed
It’s as much a sport as shooting or archery. All require physical skill. That one is not an Olympic sport is cultural.
(Olympic) Archery also requires a fair bit of physical conditioning and strength training that darts and shooting (as far as I'm aware beyond breath control) don't.
I often found (especially in windy conditions) shooting 12 dozen arrows (plus sighters) from a 40lb recurve bow more physically demanding than most MTB rides. Not in a cardio way, but the DOMS was often pretty bad.
Rowing can’t be a sport either then, because you’re basically just sat on your arse
That’s like competitive telly watching
You've just described most Motorsport. Press a pedal, twiddle a wheel. Watch the world go by. Job jobbed for no effort.
none of them are sports.
<br />Au contraire, they are all sports since they all require physical excellence and skill. Whether a sport requires physical exertion is another viewpoint. Chess is a game as no physical skill is needed. Snooker is also a sport, as is golf for the same reasons.
Hope he wins. All sports benefit from major upsets. Emma Radicanu won again recently too.
Second, I had to go look up a definition of sport:
“an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
It’s as much a sport as shooting or archery. All require physical skill. That one is not an Olympic sport is cultural.
Please to tell me which one isn’t an Olympic sport? Enquiring minds want to know.
Hope he wins
On a serious note, this. It’s a great story of lifelong desire and practice coming to fruition, let’s enjoy his success and enthusiastic kebab related character before it gets managed out of him.
You don’t get to where he is at anything, sport or otherwise, unless you put some serious graft in
Good luck to him. I love the fact that he seems baffled by all the attention
Au contraire, they are all sports since they all require physical excellence and skill.
nope nope nope - that'd make competitive chainsaw sculpture a sport. Is that where you want this to go?
To reiterate. Games and pastimes are good things. Silly shit we make up to entertain ourselves (or others) do not have to be called sports to have merit. Darts and snooker are great games. Shooting is just a bit weird (as is horse dancing).
Here’s a clue, regarding my question above; this is my bow - it’s an Olympic class recurve. Compound bows were due to be included at LA 2028, but no longer, sadly.
Have you ever shot an apple off somebodies head?
Or a kebab out of anyones hand?
(from twitter)
I’ve taken 3 kids to football and rugby in the pissing down rain, sat through swimming lessons, cheerleading, and rainbows and scouts!!!
Luke Littler's Dad took him to the pub
Let that sink in folks
Luke Humphries played a blinder in the second semi-final. Luke v Luke in the final should be something special going by the games I've seen so far.
In order to decide whether something is a "sport" or not, we must first define inconclusively what we mean by a sport.
Until we manage that, this thread and many previous like it is just another middle-aged fat lad* starting a thread about something they don't like and / or being pissy because someone younger than them is excelling at something they couldn't.
Molgrips had your answer on the previous page. Does it matter whether it's a sport, a game or a wallpaper adhesive by whatever metrics you've come up with? Does it change anything?
(* - I have no idea what the OP's midriff may look like, I don't recall who started this thread even, but if we're in the process of unprovoked mudslinging I thought I might as well join in)
Race walking is also not a sport. Sure, you have to be extremely fit but it's just so stupid it simply doesn't count. It's a thing overweight dads are supposed to do at the school sports day so that their kids can laugh at them but it somehow got completely out of hand. Seriously, you might as well have the 100m sack race as an Olympic sport.
See also three out of the four strokes in swimming.
They'll be calling the pastime of bicycling a sport next.
So that's 'mountainbiking' out for sure.
