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Sort of promoted on the news pages of this site.
Saying it shouldn't have happened gets compared to Daily Mail comments on their sites.
Any views on this and whether it should of even been posted by STW in the first place.
And yes, I am aware his Insta will get more hits, but maybe my view is totally wrong and I need to keep a check on how far out of touch I am with reality...
https://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/is-this-the-uks-biggest-drop-mtb/
lets see how long this stays open.
Maybe it’s near his house.
4 people and a camera doesn't sound like exercise more like:
We had this conversation earlier. It appears that you can do whatever you want if you have lots of money. Some prominent examples, Celtic going to Dubai, various footballers going to Dubai for a couple of days. Rita Ora hiring a bar, then inviting 20 or so people to her birthday party. Pop stars who are seemingly not aware of any restrictions and flying wherever they want.The Sky Presenter who thought she could have a party with her friends. Dominic Cummins. The Scottish MP who actually travelled on a train when she knew there was a good chance of having the virus. These are just the prominent ones.
Yes, and that Hairdresser linked to above. Just WTF? He gave an excuse that it was a photoshoot, so he was allowed to do it. Total ball ocks.
Going down a very steep hillside - crackers in the current climate.
Its work. He couldnt do the drop work at home so had to go to work the woods to do it.
He is furloughed.
Its work.
No sponsors. Who is he working for exactly?
No sponsors. Who is he working for exactly?
So he's looking for work/sponsors?
The Athertons were doing this in lockdown too and a talented chap from Skye was with them. Apparently it's okay
Rachel was defending it by saying they were from Wales and could do stuff on their land but 12+ people were there and Wales was in full local lockdown. Muppets
Xi Jingping would not approve
More to the point, this sort of activity carries with it a very real risk of a trip to the A&E where an over-stretched NHS could do without leisure-related injuries to deal with.
I think STW's response is pathetic. Especially the bit whining about how it prevents us getting access to build legitimate trails.
I think the response from people frothing about lockdown is pathetic. Fair enough, he shouldn't have done it now, but WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO REALISE THAT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE DYING EACH DAY IN THE UK DUE TO THE GOVERNMENT'S POLICIES NOT A KID HUCKING A HUGE DROP.
the UK populace seems to be dived equally between the *s who think there isn't a pandemic and the *s who subscribe to the government propaganda of divide and conquer, blame each other and then vote us in for another 4 ****ing years.
We are in this shit storm because of:
* Years of funding cuts in the NHS
* A two tier health system which has meant that up until now the rich can go private and the poor can get ****ed
* A cabinet specifically chosen by a lying bastard for their stupidity. They weren't chosen despite being stupid, they were selected specifically because they are stupid.
* Cronyism - which means that makes Ng ( oh ****, it's back) money is more important than supplying a service
* This British idea that so long as you are posh, arrogant and speak a bit of Latin then you have a divine right of rule
* Do you people know how much money Dildo pissed up the wall on Track & Trace?
*Do you know how badly she ****ed up the previous job she had before she got this one? ( No not the breach of 2 million customer records due to a cross site scripting attack, the job after that)
Ach, I can't be arsed, but really, this country is in this state because of the scum that rule us. Not because some kid hucks a drop.
/ And breathe
More to the point, this sort of activity carries with it a very real risk of a trip to the A&E where an over-stretched NHS could do without leisure-related injuries to deal with.
Maybe STW should promote the idea of avoiding that sort of dangerous activity. A handy catchphrase or hashtag should do it. How about #nocarnotfarnognar
So he’s looking for work/sponsors?
Sorry, but I first read that as "he's looking for weatherspoons" 🙂
Unless this was filmed last winter, there's others traveling under lockdown..?
They're in Stirling (loch Ard), Dunbartonshire and Inners...?
The snow suggests very recently/new year, if it was this year.
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE DYING EACH DAY IN THE UK DUE TO THE GOVERNMENT’S POLICIES NOT A KID HUCKING A HUGE DROP.
It was certainly unwise timing, but this is the key thing that we keep being distracted from.
so long as you don't need to go hospital.
The horrific numbers are totally the responsibility of the government. But the issue with things like this, and Danny's video, is that we've been asked to try and not put the NHS under more pressure than it is already under.
This surely only encourages some folk with less talent to keep on doing high risk things.
Looks like the mods are going to be pulling a late shift tonight.
I'm not going to express an opinion either way. Life can literally be too short these days.
Stay safe all.
So, that’s a big thumbs down from Forestry England and from Mountain Rescue
should really be a big thumbs down from STW and they should not even feature it.
If the place is close to his home then I see no reason why he shouldn't visit but doing that drop in this current climate is just stupid.
Also, they would probably need to call an air ambulance out if that drop went wrong.
The editorial gymnastics in that STW post are almost more impressive than the drop itself.
This surely only encourages some folk with less talent to keep on doing high risk things.
Does it? I've never once watched a video of someone doing something crazy and thought - I should go and do that. In contrast we would probably all have no great issue if my friend posted a video from my local trails (1.5 miles from the house) and I though "oh, I forgot how much fun that route is, lets go try it in the snow"...
You could also argue that entertaining videos to watch on the internet provide a reason to stay home rather than go and meet other people.
Unless this was filmed last winter, there’s others traveling under lockdown..?
They’re in Stirling (loch Ard), Dunbartonshire and Inners…?
The snow suggests very recently/new year, if it was this year.
He starts the video by saying "I'm a pro freestyle mountainbiker". Professional sport is still permitted (subject to following governing body approved rules). Venues which would normally be closed are permitted to open for the purposes of filming whether to be broadcast or shown on the internet. Difficult to criticise someone for pursuing their livelihood when its not some loophole - but has been explicitly permitted in the rules on purpose.
I disagree with watching people shredding wildly, not these days. We’re all going through it, I don’t have any hills anywhere near and just have to deal with that as days will get better!
Professional sport is still permitted (subject to following governing body approved rules).
Was he following "governing body approved rules"?
Also the Matt Jones one was literally filmed last winter by the way. Not that it would matter, can't exactly be a professional biker from home
That's all good then 🙂
Seems an odd choice to feature this stunt, given it was unsanctioned by the land owner and is breaching lockdown rules. But hey if there's only a few thousand exceptions made lockdown will still be effective right...?
lets see how long this stays open.
Its still open as there has been no rules broken. Not sure why you would think it would be closed.
My thoughts. The guy was irresponsible to do take on such a dangerous stunt in the current climate it also seems he doesn’t live near by so traveled to do the stunt.
As for STW posting the story. Ignoring it does not make it go away, it seems clear to me they admired the stunt but. It the timing. Why would it encourage others to go and do it any different to the ‘Where did you ride this weekend’ pictures. If people are going to break the rules they’ll break them regardless, look the Covid exercise threads they’re full of people trying to find ways to stretch the rules.
To be fair he stomped the drop perfectly. No emergency services or medical attention required.
How many bimbling mincers have been scraped up by mountain rescue teams in the last few months?
If elite sportsmen are allowed to go abroad to train (when this was shot they were) then I see no difference, Danny is an elite sportsman, is he not?.
Celtic were allowed to go to Dubai, that's why there was no sanction, it was within the rules. Not sure it was within the spirit, similarly to Danny, but the spirit isn't the law is it.
To be fair...... 🤦
This thread was always going to go the way of other threads. Some people are always going to justify the actions of others if you like what they did. "Yeah he's a great guy despite the wife beating, drug taking, arms dealing but have you seen the amazing shit he can do on a bike"
Yawn.
Yes the Govt have blood on their hands with 100k dead but we can all play our part in getting through this. See Rule no.1, if you're not sure look at Rule no.1
...See Rule no.1, if you’re not sure look at Rule no.1...
You do not talk about Fight Clu...? Oh, hang on... 😉
This thread was always going to go the way of other threads. Some people are always going to justify the actions of others if you like what they did. “Yeah he’s a great guy despite the wife beating, drug taking, arms dealing but have you seen the amazing shit he can do on a bike”
singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/frankie-boyle-on-michael-jackson/#post-706785
How come it was OK for MJ to be a paedophile because people would say 'Yeah, but his music's really good'? Never hear people saying 'Yeah, but Fred West was an excellent builder' or 'Harold Shipman, now he WAS a good doctor'.
“Yeah he’s a great guy despite the wife beating, drug taking, arms dealing but have you seen the amazing shit he can do on a bike
I think we should be clear that there is no suggestion that Danny has done any of these things. I read the above and thought...woah, what have I missed!?
The Generalist absolutely hitting the nail on the head
There's a couple of elements to this - first one is going onto someone else's land and building something. it's not access in the traditional sense, it's not right to roam, it is deciding that it's fine to go and just build something because you dont fancy the heavy lifting of doing it properly.
Dropping crags is starting to move onto the domain of other sports. What would have happened if this was a climbing crag with already tenuous access and this tipped it over to the landowner looking to ban climbing. Or maybe a crag that has some ecological sensitivities - bird nesting, rare flora. The issue also seems to be lurking in the background already - just riding down a fell or mountain side because you think the topography can go. Again it's pushing the envelope of appropriate, it's starting to get into the same territory as people riding MX bikes where they like.
We also have the issues around people deciding to copy this - more damage and more erosion.
One of the downsides lockdown - it's kind of skewed the sense of what people believe is appropriate. Gap jumps of what seem to be well used paths.
There is an element of a lack of education / awareness - years of funding cuts in protected landscapes and education but also a lack of meaningful discussion in mountain biking media. Don't think I've seen anything meaningful about landscape and conservation on what's probably the main cycling channel.
As to the is it an appropriate lockdown activity - I don't think it's really in the spirit of the lockdown restrictions. Just because we can doesn't mean we should.
At the moment I'm feeling mountain biking needs to take a long hard look into it's soul, get some ethics and not hide behind the innocence of the 1990s. Right now we shaping up as much villain as victim.