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Got a marathon in 9 weeks so was thinking of getting some relatively cheap compression tights to help recovery between runs-any opinions on brands and how you've got on generally?
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use skins, vest and 3/4 shorts for running in, tights for recovery, really impressed
+1 for Skins. Use my tights after skiing. First day of a trip I always push it too hard. Skins recovery tights really help.
which tights do you guys use? seem to be a few variations
You wont get better than these. http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=30194
Fontmoss, I use these;
http://www.cyclesurgery.com/skins-m-recovery-tight/tights/bikes-components-bikewear/fcp-product/4261
cheers guys, might give the subarmour a look at that price
I just ordered from sub armour, thanks for the link
Obi_Twa - MemberYou wont get better than these. http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=30194
Think those are just the normal tights? [url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=30201 ]These[/url] are the recovery ones aren't they?
I've got some and they're great. Compression socks are a lot cheaper and might be worth a go first?
Something like [url= http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=c0225 ]this[/url] as an example?
Yes they are the normal tights. But in my world the best way to ease recovery is to not need that much recovery in the first place.
not sure socks would do that much for me, its to get the thighs and calves feeling decent so i can run couple days on the bounce and also so i dont feel dead if i do a long run rest a day then another long run
um cheers for the helpful advice obi?!
fontmoss - it might be an idea to take that advice. It has been given to plenty of others and they have reaped the rewards. You need to think about how they work and what causes you to need more recovery before making any rash decisions.
cheers obi but time demands mean recovery is going to be compromised and runs are going to get stacked up quick. there are no shortcuts to getting the mileage in and if a set of tights means my legs feel a bit better and i can train better then it seems a sensible route.
obi re reading your reply im still a bit confused by what you mean by not needing recovery?
I used some recovery socks for a while but then I got humungous cramps. Maybe it was coincidence - anyone else experienced that?
maybe your feet are more at risk being the most distal point? pure speculation on my part and assuming you're properly hydrated etc
fontmoss - let me explain it to you in simple terms. If you use a pair of compression tights during exercise you will massively reduce the damage that you need to recover from.
Obi_Twa - Memberfontmoss - let me explain it to you in simple terms. If you use a pair of compression tights during exercise you will massively reduce the damage that you need to recover from.
What about if it's really hot though? You don't want to train in full tights do you?
vdubber67 - this is the UK - it doesnt get really hot.
What about if it's really hot though? You don't want to train in full tights do you?
oh no - ive covered my body in UV protecting Sweat wicking material ..... ill probably be colder than if i just had bare skin .....
performace over looks im afraid -
ah i see, either way you still end up with tights then
i agree it doesnt get that hot in the UK (after running in Madrid) but ill stick with the running kit im used to (i use 3/4 tights in winter and prefer short shorts tbh) and get tights for recovery
trail rat i reckon [i]anything[/i] over your skin is going to impinge its ability to use sweat properly- my humble opinion of course but if sweat evaporating is intrinsic to cooling i would have thought nekkid is the way forward.
if its tight enough then no - seems to be a common misconception on these forums - hence baggy shorts and baggy merino FFS
are we talking about being dry or being cooled?
skins tights are very good at regulating your temperature. better than any other bas layer i have tried.
both ..... assuming you are asking these questions then i assume you dont yet have compression wear .... try it
ive used underarmour for years and recently moved to skins both do an excellent job of keeping me cool , i find they suck in winter as a base layer as im colder with them due to no trapped air barrier between
then why dont we see people wearing long sleeved tops and tights in warm events like triathlons, marathons etc?
Because when you are actually doing a race you are not thinking about recovery perhaps?
im asking in relation to keeping someone cool rather than recovery
oh no - ive covered my body in UV protecting Sweat wicking material ..... ill probably be colder than if i just had bare skin .....
Well the triathlon thing is a no brainer.
As for marathons - perhaps folk just dont know about the cooling effects yet.
The increased cooling effect is due to an increase in surface area. Think about this before you respond.
perhaps folk just dont know about the cooling effects yet.
seriously? radcliffe wore a cooling vest in Athens, im fairly sure they may have worked out cooling effects of tights
You do realise that Paula Radcliffe using compression kit in competition don't you? Has done for a lot of years.
tights? or shorts?
my question is that if compression tights are that good at keeping cool as trail rat said then why arent more athletes using long sleeves and tights rather than vests and shorts?
im not suggesting that it doesnt happen but that i thought the real benefits of compression lay with holding stuff tighter and not losing energy etc and with lactate recovery processes and that the keeping cool element is conjectural (in fact i think most of the effects are still under researched?) and more of a side effect than a primary benefit
to be fair most of that belief is based on info from mates who compete internationally and what they've been told by a variety of people inc reps so im open to ideas just dont understand why if theyre so good at promoting heat loss they arent used more widely with that role in mind? hence asking about long sleeves and tights
If you are such an expert with lots of international level athlete friends then why the hell are you asking a forum whose core demographic is overweight, middle aged, middle management IT professionals about compression clothing?
because they respond with the authority of international athletes?
ive never claimed to be an expert and ive asked the opinion of people who are using the kit here, when ive not understood the claims made ive asked people to clarify and why paid professionals dont use it in the way you'd expect given the claims. which comes back to why i asked if compression kit is so good at wicking sweat then why dont we see it being used in that role?
didnt think it was a controversial question
Perhaps you haven't seen it used in that role, but that might be because you haven't been looking.
Given the ridiculous mileage that Trail_rat does and some of the results that he gets I'd take it as read that he knows what he is talking about.
i know trail rat does a lot hence me asking him for more info
Obi_Twa, those ones you linked to from CRC - do they have a chamois built in? Can't tell on the CRC website and I can't find that model on the skins website.
there is next to no evidence for what i say - there is also next to no evidence that compression tights work ....
so on the grounds of that given that compression tights have meant that i can get up the day after 300kms @ 28kph on a loan breakaway and knock out 200k the next day without feeling bad. i tried the same the weekend before sans compression tights and i was in alsorts of trouble by the 50th km on the second day !
as for the heat thing in pro runners - i have no idea perhaps the lack of speed for them creating the drying effect on the base layer.... tbh im coming from a cycling perspective - i do wear them for running but its not warm enough here for me to notice long sleave short sleaves . I did notice a difference between an L/S merino top and bare arms in nz in 35degrees - and it was certainly the L/S top that was cooler to ride in
trail_rat....can you answer my chamois question?....cheers!
nah they do not have chamois in them.
the cycling shorts - which i fully intend to buy are 135quid of so ....the tights were an experiment - a successful one
atm i wear my skins over my shorts when im doing timetrials - never under as they have a wide flat locked set of stitches running under the crotch , not an issue till you try doing a ride with them under the chamois lol
curious to try them for longer multi day rides but id like to get the shorts for that
tights = girls
compression tights = stuffing knob between thighs and pretending to be a big girl
cheers trail_rat
lol at simon, surely everyone cycling in lycra fits into the latter category
trail rat, yeah i did start wondering about the ventilation (for want of a better description) with running v cycling
did you find much dif between subarmour and skins? they'll just be for recovery not for running in
never had subarmour - was underarmour i had - they are a similar price to skins tbh and very similar in action tbh they are both very thin - but tight. I suggest prestretching hte neck in your hands before you put them on they are rather tight round the neck although that might just be because im a medium size with out of proportion shoulders/neck.
remember to use the chart and if in the middle go for the smaller size - they will stretch !