[Closed] Classiflids timewasters

I'm another that goes for the 50% of new price, then more off for each year.
So my Nicolai Argon cost £1350 with all the custom bits, three years old and sold it for £350.
It's just old metal, there not works of art.

making an offer (even if it is low and especially for something no one else wants) isn't time wasting, making an offer then pulling out would be 😉

Great to see the haterz brigade out as ever!

cynic-al - Member
Great to see the haterz brigade out as ever!

i'd hate to think what you were like when you didn't get you own way as a kid, tantrums in the supermarket?

if you don't get an offer you like, don't accept it, get left with frame. it's not rocket science, what is sad though is posting about how hard done by you are on the internet just because you can't get what you want

thats not hating, its pity

TBH When I saw the ad first of all, I thought Oh nice frame but then read about the "added disc mounts", thought of the recently much publicised home bodge attempts, which have appeared on here, and didn't look any further. Maybe some photos in the ad would have helped. It actually looks a lot nicer than the description. Trouble is that this thread and the reactions on it aren't likely to make people want to buy it any more.

Steve-Austin - Member
its worth more than 160

Hmm I'd have thought it was worth what someone is prepared to pay!!

Great to see the haterz brigade out as ever!

Note sure I've seen any haters (I can't use 'haterz' as I'm not 12) on this thread. Mostly people are offering decent advice. You seem to be surprised and supset that anyone would offer you a price lower that what you consider fair.

If that's the case, you really shouldn't be selling in the secondhand market. People offer what they want, and justify that price to themselves, not to you.

From the opposite side, I see people advertising things on here at [i]ludicrously[/i] inflated prices. Every so often I'll make what I conder to be a fair offer and be given short shrift, other times people will take my offer, but usually it ends up somewhere between. That said, I never try and chip people further - cash in their acount immediately, never a quibble with paying courier charges, and the deal's concluded very quickly.

In your case, I'd say the offer the chap made to you was around fair, maybe £20 light.

Hmm I'd have thought it was worth what someone is prepared to pay!!

1/10 poor effort Al

1/10 poor effort Al

Is that in general, or just for this thread?

Aww GW...as if you know me from this forum? I expected better from you 🙄

Thanks goog! That kind of support makes it worthwhile...

Maybe some photos in the ad would have helped

There were photos in the ad.

Anyway I can learn, even from you lot. I'm gonna email the guy and CLOSE THE DEAL 😡 maybe.

There were photos in the ad.

No there weren't, there was a link to Flickr. Remember that people are lazy 🙂

I don't like to waste people's bandwidth.

I don't like to waste people's bandwidth.

😀

Heh I only just got that 😎

IF I was the guy I'd retract my offer and make a much lower one, seems like you haven't got any buyers other than him so it obviously isn't worth what you thought.

TBH if someone make's me a low offer I might think I need to educate them in the value of my product as they may well end up being the buyer. I tend to offer a polite decline and a helpful push in the right direction. It does not pay to alienate your customers. Or revise my expectations accordingly.

So my Nicolai Argon cost £1350 with all the custom bits, three years old and sold it for £350.

Don't have anything else for sale do you? House would be nice 😆

Aww GW...as if you know me from this forum? I expected better from you

Sorry, late to the party. I was just thinking, time wasters?

"I want £400 for this."

"Hey, I'll give you £140."

"No, you're alright."

Not exactly haemorrhaging hours there, are we? Ok, they might well be taking the proverbial but there again they might just be chancing their arm in the hope that you [i]really [/i]want rid of it and have had no other takers.

I bought a road stem a few years ago for £150, it felt like the wrong size so I bought another to compare. When I finally decided which length to go to it was a bit late to return it so I advertised it on the classifieds. No-one was interested here so I Ebayed it. RRP by then was close to £200, it went for £45 and the guy still complained that the postage was too high!

Needless to say I was gutted but that was it's market value, if it wasn't sold it would still be unused in my garage.

If I'm buying, i always offer less than asking price, sometimes cheekily low, but if its something I really want and its popular I might cut to the chase and offer the asking price. If I'm selling, I always advertise at more that I'd expect it to go for. I expect to haggle. Its what the second-hand market is all about.

Sometimes you get a bargain, sometimes you don't.

I bought a road stem a few years ago for £150

😯

Mol - yes I know, what can I say? I was earning well and had just built a very nice road bike. Fortunateley I got it all out of my system before the kids arrived 🙂

multiple-mega-OOOOF!

I am destroyed.

its worth more than 160

😆 pOOr aL!

I'll piss myself if the chap makes a lower offer now... 😆
Do the deal Al!

My biggest problem is the people who say they definitely want something and can you hold it until they can collect. They then leave you hanging with no communication and either change their minds (but don't tell you until you chase them) or get the hump when you sell it to someone else a couple of weeks later having heard nothing from them.

GW didn't you notice my arrogant and patronising behaviour also?

Oh hang on...

and what time of the month

Stick to your guns al. I got flamed by the usual suspects for trying to sell a jacket on here for what I bought it for. It sold for what I was asking.

Unusual case through, I usually deeply discount just to get rid of stuff.

Whatever you do, don't go to a car boot sale. The offers people make there will have you spinning on your ass like a baboon with itchy butt grapes.

I make low offers because I want to spend as little money as possible. If it isn't enough tell me what would be and mayeb we'll come to a figure. If not no worries.

Life is too short to fret about this sh!te.

(didn't you notice my arrogant and patronising behaviour also? ) ooo i know this one it`s "yes" isn't it 😆

My biggest problem is the people who say they definitely want something........

Basically in my opinion email/classifieds/textual communication is an incredibly useless medium for negotiations. Any quick fire offers are laboured over, any thought out sensible final offers can be taken as initial markers etc

OP. Not a timewaster, possibly an opportunist. No harm in trying. Barter is healthy. How good would it be to barter for everything we buy. Far more fun, far more fair.

Had a good one this week. Guy texting me and mailing me wants my frame and bits etc. I say is bank transfer ok. He says he's done it after I mail him twice and text with no answer. Then out of the blue I get a mail 10 hours later saying 'the money would probably be in my account Tuesday' his bank said. I smelled a rat because normally if people stick 200 quid in your bank account they tell you soon as they have done it and give you the postal address so you can post ASAP on cleared funds. They don't have to wait for you to ask them if they have paid the money in!

Also when I checked what he had been posting on the forums the same guy was buying the same sort of stuff what he had arranged to buy from me! I kind of knew that was it. The thing that got me mad though was I lost some sales for the stuff as I told the other partys the items were sold. What a total prick. A good time to come clean as a messer would be the time I asked him if the money had been paid in my account. Why do that though? Anyway I have mailed him and texted him but no answer! suprise

Time wasting of the highest order Not to mention if I had stripped the complete bike down and boxed it up. Lucky I didn't!